Would you be okay, if Donald Trump were president if he created this
disinformation governance board or if it is in place and
he wins again in 2024 that he's in charge of such a thing.
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>> This working group that gathers together best practices,
make sure that our work is coordinated consistent with those best practices that
were safeguarding the right of free speech that we're safeguarding civil liberties.
I think it's an extraordinarily important endeavor.
>> Notice that Mayorkas did not answer the specific question in regard to
how he would feel if Donald trump were essentially the leader over a government
group that would be determining what is and is not disinformation.
And this has to do with a story that's getting a lot more attention lately.
It has to do with the Department of Homeland Security and
its new disinformation board.
There are a lot of questions about what the purpose of the disinformation
board is.
We've received some answers in regard to counteracting the false information or
disinformation that human smugglers are telling migrants,
which is persuading them to come to the border.
But, I would caution against just buying that argument and thinking that this is
a good thing because at the end of the day we're talking about a government agency.
That does not have a good track record in regard to our civil liberties,
in regard to our privacy rights.
Essentially, determining what is and
is not considered disinformation from foreign actors.
But I worry that this would also have an impact on American citizens as well.
Now before I get to the details about what this group would allegedly do you think
I know you guys talked about this on the show recently,
it was on a day when I wasn't here.
And the conversation was mostly just kind of explaining what DHS has
said the disinformation board is gonna do.
But do you have any concerns that this would have a negative impact on our civil
liberties.
Especially, if this is a group that's established during the Biden
administration.
And then later you get someone like Donald Trump getting reelected as president of
the United States again.
>> I do now and what caused concern for me was actually this Mayorkas interview.
So, in the beginning it looked like they were going to collect
threat assessment on actual potential terrorists, right?
People who might do violent acts in the United States,
were given the huge degree of white supremacist terrorism in this country.
I agree with that.
But it would have to be only about criminal matters.
And as I said on the show on Friday, I'm not interested in pre-crime.
I'm not interested in their political opinions no matter how extreme they are.
I'm interested in, are they going to commit crime or are they not?
Are they planning to?
Are they do they have an active plan to commit crime.
But now that I've seen my orcas answer I withdraw any and
all support from this total BS and ridiculous contraption, okay?
Why number one he says, no we're not going to collect any information.
We're just gonna do studies of what other countries have done and blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, okay?
Well, okay, there's two possible results of that.
Number one, if you're just gonna collect studies of what other people have done,
why do you need a whole division for it then?
It's totally useless and I have no interest in.
It couldn't other divisions do that anyway.
Isn't that a normal part of your research process in each division?
What are useless, useless thing you've set up?
Or you're lying and you're gonna collect intelligence but
now you're not telling us and you're covering it up, okay?
Well, that makes me wonder what kind of intelligence you are?