>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
I’M MEGYN KELLY.
HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.
DID YOU CATCH ANY OF "60
MINUTES" LAST NIGHT?
WE DID.
WE DID. YOU’RE GOING TO SEE THE CLIPS
ALL DAY EVERYWHERE.
JOINING US TO DISCUSS IT AND
WHAT ELSE IS MAKING THE ROUNDS,
STEPHANIE GOSK.
STEPHANIE GOSK. AND THE FIRST TIME TO OUR PANEL,
THE AUTHOR OF "DO NOT DISTURB."
>> AND WE HAVE MATT ISMAN, HOST
OF "AMERICAN NINJA WARRIOR."
WE’RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP MAKING
CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS.
CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS. YOU’RE SHOCKED, I KNOW.
A WEEK REMOVED FROM THE
CONFIRMATION OF BRETT KAVANAUGH.
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP TAKING
CREDIT FOR THAT IN AN INTERVIEW
WITH ’60"60 MINUTES."
HE SAID THAT COMMENTS HE MADE
ABOUT CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD
HELPED SEAL THE NOMINATION.
>> WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE FUN
OF HER?
OF HER? >> WHAT I SAID WAS, THE PERSON
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, DIDN’T KNOW
THE YEAR, THE TIME, THE PLACE.
HOW DID HE GET HOME?
I DON’T REMEMBER.
HOW DID YOU GET THERE?
I DON’T REMEMBER.
HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS IT?
I DON’T KNOW.
>> DR. BLASEY FORD WAS ASKED,
WHAT WAS THE TOUGHEST MOMENT?
WHEN THE TWO BOYS LAUGH AT ME.
AND THEN, I WATCHED YOU MIMIC
HER AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE
LAUGHING AT HER.
>> THEY CAN DO -- I’M GOING TO
TELL YOU THIS.
THE WAY THAT NOW-JUSTICE
KAVANAUGH WAS TREATED HAS BECOME
A BIG FACTOR IN THE MIDTERMS.
HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT HAS GONE ON
WITH THE POLLS?
>> DID YOU HAVE TO --
>> I THINK SHE WAS TREATED WITH
GREAT RESPECT.
GREAT RESPECT. THERE’S THOSE THAT DON’T THINK
HE
HE SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
>> DID YOU TREAT HER WITH
RESPECT?
RESPECT? >> I DID, YEAH.
>> BUT YOU SEEM TO SAY THAT SHE
LIED.
LIED. >> WE WON.
IT DOESN’T MATTER.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID, HAD I NOT
MADE THAT SPEECH, WE WOULD NOT
HAVE KNOWN.
HAVE KNOWN. I DON’T THINK THAT’S TRUE.
I THINK TRUMP DESERVES CREDIT,
IF YOU’RE HAPPY ABOUT KAVANAUGH
GETTING IN OR IF YOU’RE NOT.
HE GETS CREDIT FOR STANDING BY
HIS NOMINEE AND NOT FOLDING.
THAT’S WHAT THE REPUBLICANS
THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO DO.
THAT’S WHAT DEMOCRATS WANTED HIM
TO DO, TO FOLD.
AND TRUMP DOESN’T FOLD, HE JUST
DOESN’T.
DOESN’T. THAT’S WHY REPUBLICANS APPROVE
HIM IN THE HIGH 90s.
IT WASN’T REALLY HIS SPEECH.
IT WAS MORE LINDSEY GRAHAM’S
SPEECH AND BRETT KAVANAUGH’S
SPEECH.
SPEECH. BUT TRUMP DIDN’T FOLD.
>> I THINK WHAT PEOPLE WERE
HOPING FOR IS HE WOULD STAY OUT
OF IT, TO BE HONSZ.
HONEST.
HONEST. HE WASN’T GOING TO SWEET
SOMETHING CRAZY.
SOMETHING CRAZY. THE REASON THAT BRETT KAVANAUGH
GOT IN, THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE
THAT WHEN BLASEY FORD SAID,
THESE GUYS ARE WITNESSES, THEY
CORROBORATED BRETT KAVANAUGH’S
STORY OR SAID I’VE NEVER SEEN
BRETT KAVANAUGH DO ANYTHING LIKE
THAT.
THAT. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> WHAT A SHOCK.
>> HE WAS A STRONG CANDIDATE.
AND BRETT KAVANAUGH HAD A LONG
300-SOMETHING OPINIONS OUT
THERE.
THERE. HE HAD A LONG LEGAL HISTORY, A
TON OF PEOPLE TO SUPPORT HIM.
A LOT OF WOMEN, THAT HELPED HIM.
THE FACT THIS CASE WAS BROUGHT
FORWARD AND OTHERS ACCUSING HIM
OF GANG-RAPE.
OF GANG-RAPE. NOBODY HAD CORROBORATION.
THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. >> THAT WAS BLOWN OUT OF THE
WATER BY THE WITNESS HERSELF,
WHO CONTRADICTED HERSELF IN A
SWORN INTERVIEW.
SWORN INTERVIEW. >> WHAT GETS TO ME IS THE SOUND
BYTE AT THE END.
IT DOESN’T MATTER, WE WON, HE’S
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
I’M GOING TO TELL YOU,
ACCOUNTABILITY DOES MATTER.
IT MATTERS WHEN YOU’RE A SUPREME
COURT JUSTICE AND PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
ACCOUNTABILITY MATTERS AND WE
NEED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS.
>> TRUMP IS ABOUT A MEANS TO AN
END.
END. ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEAN.
THAT’S WHAT I MEAN.
AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
NASTINESS, NOT BETWEEN US, BUT
HIS PART TOWARD ME, AFTER ALL
THOSE MONTHS.
THOSE MONTHS. AND HE SAID THE SAME THING.
I WON.
I WON. I WON THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION,
AT THAT POINT, AND ULTIMATELY,
THE PRESIDENCY.
THE PRESIDENCY. HE’S RIGHT.
HE’S RIGHT. HE GETS RESULTS.
BUT THE QUESTION PEOPLE IN THE
COUNTRY HAS, AT WHAT COST?
DOES IT SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR
KIDS OR OTHERS THAT ANYTHING
GOES, IT’S ALL ABOUT THE WIN?
>> I DON’T THINK HE’S THE ONE
THAT INITIATED THIS IN A PART
PARTISAN WAY.
PARTISAN WAY. FEINSTEIN HAD THIS ACCUSATION
AND SAT ON IT.
THEY USED IT AS A POLITICAL TOOL
TO BEGIN WITH.
AND HE RESPONDED IN KIND.
WHEN HE DOES IT, HE DOES IT
BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
WHETHER YOU LIKE IT, I DON’T
KNOW IF HE INVENTED THE GAME.
BUT HE’S PLAYING A STRONG
POLITICIZING GAME.
POLITICIZING GAME. WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT, WE WON, IT
MAY NOT BE THIS ISSUE.
WHAT HE’S DOING IS, HE IS TRYING
TO GET HIS BASE BUILT UP BECAUSE
EVERYONE IS PREDICTING A BLUE
WAVE.
WAVE. AND WE’VE SEEN THIS KAVANAUGH
INCIDENT HAS BEEN A TURNING
POINT, INFLECTION POINT, BACK
TOWARDS THE RED SIDE.
HE’S TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON IT.
ONE THING HE DOES, HE LIKES TO
TAKE CREDIT.
TAKE CREDIT. >> TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT
FEINSTEIN, THERE’S QUESTIONS TO
BE RAISED ON HOW SHE HANDLED IT.
SHE WAS ASKED NOT TO REVEAL IT
PUBLICLY.
PUBLICLY. WE DON’T KNOW HOW IT GOT IN THE
PUBLIC SPHERE.
PUBLIC SPHERE. THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN
UNANSWERED IN THAT PROCESS.
>> TRUMP WENT OUT THERE -- WHEN
HE WAS IMITATINGE INGING BLASEY
HE DIDN’T MOCK HER OR GO AFTER
HER LOOKS, WHICH HE IS KNOWN TO
DO.
DO. HE IMITATED HER.
HE DIDN’T GET PERSONAL.
IT GOES BOTH WAYS.
THE DEMOCRATS, AS KAVANAUGH
POINTED OUT IN HIS CONFIRMATION
HEARING, HE WAS CALLED BY CORY
BOOKER, HE DID HIM THE COURTESY
OF NOT NAMING HIM, HE WAS CALLED
EVIL.
EVIL. BRETT KAVANAUGH WAS CALLED EVIL
IN THE CONFIRMATION HEARINGS.
AND KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND SAID THAT
WOMEN WILL DIE IF KAVANAUGH IS
ON THE SUPREME COURT.
IT GOT UGLY AND PERSONAL.
WHEN TRUMP STANDS UP AND DOES
WHAT HE DOES, THE CONTEXT OF IT
IS LOST.
IS LOST. LET ME MOVE ON.
YOU REMEMBER WHO HE RAN AGAINST?
>> VAGUELY.
>> VAGUELY. VAGUELY.
VAGUELY. >> HILLARY MADE SOME NEWS THIS
WEEKEND ON "CBS SUNDAY MORNING."
SHE ADDRESSED HER HUSBAND’S
AFFAIR WITH MONICA LEWINSKY.
THEN, SHE WAS ASKED WHETHER SHE,
HILLARY, PLAYED ANY ROLE IN
CRITICIZING THE CHARACTER OF THE
WOMEN WHO ACCUSED BILL OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT, WHICH WENT BEYOND
LEWINSKY.
LEWINSKY. WATCH WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT
LEWINSKY.
LEWINSKY. >> DO YOU THINK BILL SHOULD HAVE
RESIGNED IN THE WAKE OF THE
MONICA LEWINSKY SCANDAL?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
>> IT WASN’T AN ABUSE OF POWER?
>> NO.
>> NO. NO.
NO. >> THERE’S PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT
THE INCIDENTS OF THE ’90s AND
SAY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES CANNOT HAVE A CONSENSUAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH AN INTERN.
THE BALANCE OF POWER IS TOO
GREAT.
GREAT. >> WHO WAS AN ADULT.
WHERE IS THE INVESTIGATION OF
THE CURRENT INCUMBENT, AGAINST
WHOM NUMEROUS ALLEGATIONS HAVE
BEEN MADE.
BEEN MADE. AND HE DISMISSES, DENIES AND
RIDICULE
RIDICULE RIDICULES.
RIDICULES. THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION.
AS I BELIEVE, IT CAME OUT IN IN
THE RIGHT PLACE.
>> SHE SAYS IT WAS NOT AN ABUSE
OF POWER FOR THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE AN
AFFAIR WITH A 22-YEAR-OLD INTERN
IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> I’M NOT A POLITICAL ANALYST.
I DON’T COVER POLITICS FOR NBC
NEWS.
NEWS. AND I COME AT THIS AS ANY
TYPICAL VOTER WOULD.
AND I THINK SHE HAS A
RELATABILITY PROBLEM, HAS FROM
THE BEGINNING.
THE BEGINNING. AND I ASK MYSELF --
>> YOU DON’T SAY.
>> LET’S JUST IMAGINE WHAT WOULD
HAVE HAPPENED IF HILLARY CLINTON
STARTED HER CAMPAIGN BY SAYING,
I WANT TO GO BACK TO MONICA
LEWINSKY AND I WANT TO TELL YOU
THIS -- BILL CLINTON IS A JERK.
AND I VALUED OUR MARRIAGE AND I
STAYED WITH HIM.
WHAT HE DID TO MONICA LEWINSKY
WAS WRONG.
WAS WRONG. HOW WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED THE
LANDSCAPE FOR HER?
>> SHE’S NOT CAPABLE OF THAT
EMOTION.
EMOTION. SHE’S NOT.
SHE’S NOT. >> IN THAT MOMENT, WHY NOT SAY,
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AGAIN.
AND IT’S A DIFFERENT TIME.
>> NOT ONLY THAT, BUT EVERYONE
REMEMBERS HE COMMITTED PERJURY.
>> THAT’S WHY HE GOT IMPEACHED.
>> THAT WAS THE REASON HE GOT
IMPEACHED.
IMPEACHED. HE WAS ACCUSED OF RAPE AND
SEXUAL ASSAULT BY MANY WOMEN
OVER THE YEARS.
AND I THINK IT’S OUTRAGEOUS.
THE MEDIA PUTS HIM OUT THERE.
HE AND HILLARY ARE DOING A TOUR.
THIS IS THE HEAT OF THE #METOO
MOVEMENT.
MOVEMENT. HE’S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT
THE #METOO MOVEMENT?
HE DISGRACED THE OVAL OFFICE.
YOU CAN’T TELL ME THERE’S A
POWER DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT AN INTERN AND
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> I DON’T HAVE THE WHOLE LIST
OF BILL CLINTON ACCUSERS.
I DON’T KNOW THAT MANY, MANY
WOULD BE ACCURATE.
PAULA JONES ACCUSED HIM OF
EXPOSING HIMSELF TO HER.
THERE’S JAUNITA BROADDRICK,
GENNIFER FLOWERS HAD AN AFFAIR
WITH HIM.
WITH HIM. AND HILLARY WAS ASKED IF SHE,
HILLARY CLINTON, PLAYED ANY ROLE
OF CRITICIZING THE CHARACTER OF
THE WOMEN WHO ACCUSED HIM.
AND HE SETTLED WITH PAULA JONES
OVER $800,000.
OVER $800,000. AND HILLARY SAID, NO.
I HAD NO ROLE.
I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY
LIFE AND MY ACTIONS.
THAT, TOO, ACCORDING TO "THE NEW
YORK TIMES," IS ANOTHER LIE.
SHE WAS REPORTEDLY CALLING
GENNIFER FLOWERS, WITH WHOM HE
DID HAVE AN AFFAIR, TRAILER
TRASH.
TRASH. SHE REFERRED TO HER AS A CABARET
SINGER.
SINGER. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAYS THAT
HILLARY GREEN-LIT TO IMPUGN
GENNIFER FLOWERS CHARACTER.
SHE CALLED MONICA LEWINSKY A
NARCISSISTIC LOONEY TUNES.
CAN YOU SPARE ME?
JUST SPARE ME.
SPARE ME.
SPARE ME. >> THAT WAS A TIME WHEN THEY
COINED THE PHRASE THE BIMBO
ERUPTIONS.
ERUPTIONS. THERE WAS VICTIM BLAMING GOING
ON THERE.
ON THERE. THE THING, STEPHANIE, TO YOUR
POINT, IN IS A COUNTRY OF SECOND
CHANCES.
CHANCES. AND WERE HILLARY TO COME OUT AND
SAY, I STOOD BY MY MAN, I DID
WHAT I HAD TO DO, NOW, I’M
SAYING THAT WAS WRONG, PEOPLE
WOULD EMBRACE THAT.
GIVE US A CHANCE TO SAY THROW
YOURSELVES ON THE ALTAR OF
CONTRITION.
CONTRITION. >> IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO, IT WAS
ANCIENT HISTORY.
ANCIENT HISTORY. IT MATTERS NOW.
IT MATTERS IN THE CONVERSATION
WE’RE HAVING.
WE’RE HAVING. >> DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING AT HOW
THEY DEFENDED THAT.
>> YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS SAYING, WE
MADE A MISTAKE.
WE SHOULD HAVE HELD BILL CLINTON
TO A HIGHER STANDARD.
>> THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF
WOMEN WILL ONLY DEFEND YOU AS A
WOMAN IF THEY THINK YOU’RE A
DEMOCRAT.
DEMOCRAT. AND THEY WILL GO AFTER YOU AS A
MAN, IF THEY THINK YOU’RE A
REPUBLICAN.
REPUBLICAN. >> THAT’S UNFORTUNATE, THOUGH.
>> FOR HILLARY IN THE PAST YEAR
TO SAY ALL WOMEN SHOULD BE
BELIEVED, WHEN 20 YEARS AGO, WE
SAW THE EXACT OPPOSITE, YOU HAVE
ZERO CREDIBILITY THERE.
>> UNLESS YOUR NAME IS PAULA
JONES, GENNIFER FLOWERS, MONICA
LEWINSKY.
LEWINSKY. >> YOU CAN’T JUST SWITCH THAT
STATEMENT.
STATEMENT. OUR MEMORIES AREN’T THAT SHORT.
AND WE HAVE TAPE OF YOU SAYING
IT.
IT. >> IF WE HOLD PRESIDENT TRUMP
ACCOUNTABLE, IF WE GIVE HIM THE
TOUGH QUESTIONS, THEN FORMER
PRESIDENT CLINTON NEEDS THE SAME
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. IT HAS TO BE ASKED.
>> AND DON’T LECTURE US ON HOW
DISHONEST TRUMP IS, AND HE