JAILBREAK, GOT THAT RIGHT.
WELCOME BACK TO THE BIG SATURDAY
SHOW.
NEW YORK’S CRIME CRISIS IS ONLY
GETTING WORSE SO HOW DO
LAWMAKERS PLAN TO ADDRESS THE
SITUATION?
CHANGE THE LAWS BY SWAPPING THE
TERM INMATE IN FAVOR OF THE MORE
QUOTE UNQUOTE DIGNIFIED
INCARCERATED PERSON.
GOVERNOR HOCHUL SAYING THE
REASON IS ALL ABOUT THE FEELING
SAYING BY TREATING ALL NEW
YORKERS WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT
RESPECT, WE CAN IMPROVE PUBLIC
SAFETY ENSURING NEW YORKERS HAVE
A FAIR SHOT AT A SECOND CHANCE.
IT IS FASCINATING BECAUSE THESE
PEOPLE NOT BEING TREATED WITH
DIGNITY OR ANY KIND OF RESPECT
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO AREN’T
CRIMINALS.
THE AVERAGE PERSON HAS TO DEAL
WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, SMALL
PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE COMMIT MOST
OF THE CRIMES AND THEY ARE
CONSTANTLY OUT.
THERE’S ONE REVELATION,
SOMETHING LIKE TEN PEOPLE OR
COMMITTING LIKE HUNDREDS OF
PERCENTAGE OF AMOUNT OF CRIME AS
THE KEPT GOING THROUGH THE
REVOLVING DOORS.
DO THINK THIS HAS ANY GENUINE
IMPACT ON THE NATURE OF TRYING
TO CHANGE THE ATTITUDE TOWARD
CRIME OR IS IT MAKING IT WORSE?
WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT IF IT’S
MAKING IT WORSE?
>> IT SHOWS WE ARE INSANE.
I AM HAPPY WE ARE STILL ALLOWED
TO SAY JAIL, TO BE WE COME BACK
TOMORROW AND WE WILL HAVE TO SEE
SEE.
LOOK, PRISON IS A LIFETIME
ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FOR CRIME AS
MCDONALD PUT IT BRILLIANTLY.
THE PEOPLE IN PRISON TEND TO BE
RECIDIVIST DEFENDERS.
RAFAEL WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THIS
WHOLE INCARCERATION MOVEMENT AND
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SERIOUS
CRIMINALS, YOU FIND AGAIN AND
AGAIN THEY’VE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM
SO SO FAR BEING CALLED INMATE
HASN’T UPSET THEM SO MUCH THEY
DON’T WANT TO GO BACK TO THERE’S
THAT PART BUT THE IDEA IF YOU
ARE SITTING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE
OF THE CRIMINAL AND CRIME IS
SURGING AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT
IS WORRIED ABOUT HOW TO GET
DRESSED IN TERMS OF HOW WE CALL
PEOPLE IN PRISON RATHER THAN
MAYBE WE NEED MORE INMATES
RIGHTLY BECAUSE WE HAD MORE
INMATES, LO AND BEHOLD, WE HAD
LESS CRIME.
>> LET ME TELL YOU A FEW NUMBERS
HERE REGARDING INCREASE IN CRIME
CRIME.
OVERALL CRIME IS UP JUST OVER
30% WHILE MURDER RATES, AGAIN
THIS IS IN NEW YORK, MURDER
RATES INCREASED BY OVER 34%. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HER POINTS
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HER POINTS
HERE, THE ISSUE OF LANGUAGE
MATTERS BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE
DOING IS IN SOME WAYS
ROMANTICIZING OR ELEVATING OR
EMBRACING THE WORST AMONG US AT
THE EXPENSE OF THE QUALITY OF
LIFE OF EVERYONE ELSE.
WE CAN’T FIGURE OUT WHY BECAUSE
IF YOU ARE, IT’S LIKE THE FIRST
TIME CRIMINAL, YOU WILL HAVE A
PLEA BARGAIN AND OTHER PROGRAMS
TO GET YOU THROUGH SO YOU’RE NOT
GOING TO PRISON.
WHAT’S YOUR TAKE ON THE GOAL OF
THIS ENGLISH CHANGING IN
PARTICULAR WHEN IT COMES TO HOW
WE VIEW EACH OTHER AND WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO DO?
>> I’M NOT SURE WHAT HER GOAL
IS.
THE ONLY THING I CAN SURMISE
FROM THIS IS IT’S OF DIFFERENT
DISTRACTION OF WHAT’S HAPPENING.
THIS MOMENT IN TIME, YOUR POST
OUT, IT’S ASTOUNDING TO ME.
I WILL ADD TO WHAT YOU READ
THEIR, GOVERNOR HOCHUL, DID YOU
KNOW JUMP IN SHOOTINGS WAS 22%
AND 80% AND MARTYRS HAVE
TRIPLED?
THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK, IT’S BAD ALL
OVER AND WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT
THE CRIMINALS.
>> IN THIS KIND OF ACTION SEEMS
TO ENCOURAGE.
WE SEE THIS INCREASE AND YOU
WONDER WHY, PERHAPS IT’S THIS
ACTION.
>> CRIME IS THAT, YOU DON’T WANT
TO BE A CRIMINAL.
BUT ALSO GOVERNOR HOCHUL WANTS
TO RESPECT CRIMINALS.
THE PEOPLE WHO DID RESPECT THEIR
VICTIMS, BURGLARIZED THEIR
COMMUNITY, THEY DIDN’T HAVE
RESPECT FOR ANYBODY BUT WE ARE
SUPPOSED TO RESPECT THEM NEXT
NO.
THROW THEM IN JAIL AND CALL THEM
WHAT THEY ARE.
>> MAYBE PEOPLE WILL STOP DOING
IT.
>> WITH PUNISHMENT AND THOSE WHO
ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS BUT EVEN
THOSE WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND
IMPACT ON ALL THESE DEMOCRATS