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It’s not just the ladies that love us.
I love my ladies, but there’s also some fellas out there.
I know you won’t admit it, but you love us too.
And more exciting than that, there’s a lot of moms who are starting to watch MarieTV
with their kids.
So I’ve been hearing about that a lot and then I got this email: “Hi, I’m Olivia.
I’m 12 years old and I live in New Zealand and I’m just beginning to create my own
digital publishing company as an author and illustrator.
I’ve just signed up for your B-School free videos.
I don’t yet have a Facebook page, so I can’t post that way yet.
I may start one when I know what to do with it.
I think your videos are very inspiring.
I’ve started to learn marketing now, your videos are very helpful in this area, and
also how to get the right audience to notice and buy my products.
I would love my books to touch people’s hearts, and really inspire them like these
videos inspired me a few seconds ago.
Thank you.
Olivia :)”
When that email came in, it absolutely filled my heart and I knew I needed to know more
about who this amazing young viewer was.
Turns out she made a video for us, take a look.
Hi, I’m Olivia-Leigh.
It is blowing a gale outside.
But you know what rainy days are good for?
Drawing.
My other favorite thing about a windy and rainy day is that it’s perfect for writing.
Welcome to my room!
This is my office.
That’s my bed and, if you ask me, every single office should have a bed.
Alright... that was so hard.
After a hard day’s typing, the best thing is grabbing a good book and flopping back
on your office bed and reading it.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have stuff to catch up on.
So miss Olivia has quite a few things to say about creativity, about writing, and about
following your dreams.
So we’re gonna talk with her right now via Skype.
Alright everyone, so I am here with the amazing Olivia and I am so grateful.
It’s afternoon here in New York City and Olivia, I know it’s the morning for you.
Right?
Yeah, it is actually.
About 8:30.
8:30.
Awesome.
So tell us a little bit more about your inspiration to create books and to write stories and to
just start your own business.
Well, ever since I was little I... ever since I could hold a pen I’ve been drawing out
my own stories.
I’d get a piece of paper and a pen and I’d have an idea for a story and instead of writing
it with words, I’d draw the pictures for each scene.
Sometimes I’d have entire chapters just with just drawings in them with little speech
bubbles.
And a little later I was encouraged to maybe write down the words and then put the pictures
with it.
So it sort of... it grew from that in a way.
And then once I figured out how to get past the where’s the letters on the keyboard
stage, it got a lot easier to type and I was able to do stories a little bit more properly
and add the pictures with them.
And it grew from there.
So, yeah, that’s pretty much how it happened.
That’s awesome.
And so did you start drawing just on pencil and paper or were you drawing on the computer?
Well, I do like to draw on computer programs, but when I started I was always had a pencil
and a paper.
And I found it really difficult to draw with a pen, but now I really like drawing with
pens and... you know, it’s just stuff like that.
But I, yeah, I did a lot of pencil drawings and I would just draw and draw and draw and
eventually I had huge piles of just paper with lots of drawings on them and you can
still find boxes in our house with just these big boxes full of paper with drawings on them
from however old I was.
That’s awesome.
I actually started... that was one of the first things that I learned how to do when
I was little and it was one of my favorite activities.
And for a while I thought I was gonna be a fine artist.
So I loved drawing just as much, it sounds like, as you do.
So, curious, do any of your friends have their own business?
And what do they think about you starting your own publishing company?
Well, none of my friends my age currently have their own businesses.
But they are really supportive when I tell them about it.
I’ll tell them that I did something new on my website or that I’ve done up a new
set of tweets or something like that.
And they are so supportive, they’ll go, “Oh, wow, I can’t wait to see it.”
Or something like that and they’re really encouraging, really supportive.
They’re great friends.
That’s awesome.
And I do have some adult friends though who do run their own business.
And the ones I’ve told are also really supportive, so everyone rocks.
I love it.
And so have you met your adult friends through your parents or through friends of your parents?
Is that how you got in touch?
Well, pretty much.
I mean, we’re around the same area and so we know them from around here and we meet
them.
We catch up quite a lot so, yeah, we spend a lot of time around each other so we do get
to talk about that sort of stuff actually quite a lot.
That’s so great, I love hearing that.
So next thing I wanna ask you, because I think it’s true for any entrepreneur, when you
run into challenges, whether it’s creative challenges when you’re working on a story,
or it comes more to the technical side of your business, how do you handle those challenges?
Who do you go to to ask for for help?
Well, there’s definitely mom and dad.
They’re really helpful with business.
Also stuff like my dad might help me with the tax and things, because that’s always
fun.
Yes.
But there’s auntie Google and cousin YouTube.
My favorites, my favorites.
They’re really helpful.
It’s... with Google because I might be needing to do some research on a time period in a
book I’m working on, and I’ll go to Google and I had a really weird thing I needed to
look up and actually it’s surprisingly helpful.
You know?
And with YouTube, I might have a book that needs a certain style of drawing.
Yeah.
And it’s really hard to do that particular style or maybe I just don’t know it or I’ve
never even heard of it or something like that.
Yes.
So I’ll look it up on YouTube or I’ll get help to find it, and I’ll just watch
an artist who knows how to do it and practice, and it’s really, really helpful.
Yeah.
Isn’t it just amazing the time that we live in that you can just go online and whether
you want information, education, or inspiration, it’s just all at your fingertips?
And the thing I love about you, Olivia, is that you get this on such a level.
It’s like this is just how you think and I can’t tell you how excited I am for you
because at 12 years old, right?
You’re almost 13?
What you’re gonna be able to create in your life is just so miraculous.
And you’re such an inspiration to me, the fact that you’re getting started this young,
I just think it’s fantastic.
So thanks for sharing with us a little bit of how you overcome your challenges with...
what do you call them?
Is it Uncle Google and Auntie YouTube or did I get that switched up?
It’s Auntie Google and Cousin YouTube.
Oh, love it.
Love it, love it, love it.
So next thing I wanna ask you as we’re kind of wrapping this up, one of the reasons I
wanted to interview you was because I so admire your ambition and the fact that you had dreams
and you had dreams around creating stories and creating books and you just take action
and, as I always say, everything is figure outable.
So I know so many people in our audience of all ages have a dream of having their own
book and putting their ideas out into the world.
So what would you say to someone who’s just starting out?
Any tips for them?
Well, I do have a few tips that I would definitely give to a person like that.
I’ve got 7... well, no.
5 actually.
5 tips.
My first one is that you should just start and write regularly.
Because if you have a schedule and you just continue to type through it, then you’ll
get through it.
You’ll finish it.
If you don’t, then you won’t.
Let me ask you, before you go on to your next tip, do you have a regular writing schedule
for yourself?
Well, I do try...
I had a little period where I was writing and writing and writing and it was going really
well.
Then I finished the first draft of the book and I took a break, and I’ve found that
now I’ve got a great drawing spurt so I’m going for that.
Sometimes it just...
I’m taking turns with it.
I’m writing, drawing, writing, drawing.
So it’s... that’s sort of how it works personally for me.
I love that and I actually find that to be very true as well.
When you get those creative bursts, as long as you’re consistent with whatever it is
that you wanna create, it works well.
So yeah, let’s go on to your second tip.
Alright, well, my second one is it’s really easy to publish your own book online in today’s
world.
I mean, because on Amazon, Kobo, and all of the other ones have free guides that you can
just follow the instructions on.
And you’ll find it really easy to just get it up there, it’s really great.
My third one is that make sure your cover is... it actually looks really cool.
Make sure it looks really good and that your title is really importantly really easy to
read when it’s the size of the thumbnail online.
Yes.
It’s really small.
So this is big.
Olivia, I think that this is such a huge tip and I’m so glad that you brought it up.
So the idea of not only having your cover be really good, but having your title be really
good and, most importantly, that when it’s that tiny as a thumbnail that it’s still
attractive and that it still connects.
I was reading this article about a woman in, I believe it was Forbes.
She started selling vintage clothing online using Ebay, and one of the things that she
discovered, by the way, she started off doing this just in her house and now her company,
I think, is doing about 129 million a year in revenue.
All from one of her biggest things was making sure that the pictures look really good when
they’re tiny.
And she said that’s one of the tips that most people don’t get.
So I just love how wicked smart you are that you got that already.
So that’s huge, thanks for that.
Thank you very much.
My fourth one is that publishing is really easy but you still need a really good book.
Because if you skimp on quality, what happens is if someone picks up that book and goes,
“Ooh, interesting.”
Reads it, and they go, “Uh...”
They don’t really like it if it’s really bad.
Then, well... then any other books that your name is associated with or that you’ve written,
they’ll probably assume that they’re really bad as well.
So you shouldn’t really skimp on the quality of the book.
Give it your best and the cover and everything.
Yeah.
I’ll tell you, you know, you’re talking about something that we talk about in our
B-School program.
And it’s this strategy I talk about, I call it the Happy Meal Mistake.
Where people will put out kind of crap stuff on their website and then expect people to
want to pay them really good money for some of their other training or their programs.
And it’s kind of like if someone took you on a date to McDonalds and got you a Happy
Meal, would you ever really expect them to go flying you off to Paris for some romantic
weekend?
Probably not.
So it’s like you’re talking about in the book world.
Right?
Not wanting to make the Happy Meal mistake.
Do you like this tip?
I really like it.
So what you’re saying is with your book, it’s like you don’t wanna put out a Happy
Meal book.
Right?
That’s like kinda low quality and no one’s gonna wanna come back for a gourmet dinner.
That’s really funny.
My fifth tip is that you should celebrate every milestone.
When you finish your first draft, because that’s a really big accomplishment, I mean,
you’ve gotten to the end of something relatively.
So you should celebrate, just whatever tickles your fancy.
Just celebrate in a way.
And when you finished your edit, you should celebrate that.
And when you finally publish it, you should also celebrate.
My family, when we finished the first edit of a book, we’ll often go to a beach and
we have this little recently made tradition that we have, where we go to a beach, we just
get something yummy to eat, and then we do a dance.
For some reason, we do a dance.
I don’t know why.
Because it’s fun.
Yes, that’s right, because it makes you feel alive and that’s like what better way
to hang out and celebrate with your family than to dance around and be goofy and enjoy
each other’s company?
I think that’s awesome.
Yeah, it’s a lot of fun.
That’s really cool.
Olivia, I just think you are fantastic and I wanna, first of all, thank you for writing
us that email months ago letting us know what a difference our videos make.
And I just adore you, I think you’re fantastic.
Your parents are great, so please send them my best.
And, yeah, you gotta keep us up to date and I know right now everyone watching this MarieTV
episode, they’ll be very, very inspired.
And a lot of moms also watch with their daughters, and I’m sure their sons too, so you’re
providing a great example to many, many, many folks in our audience.
So thank you for that.
You’re welcome.
You’re so cute.
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On behalf of me in New York and Olivia in New Zealand, thank you and we’ll see you
guys soon.
Thanks everybody.