- What is the uh, queerest thing that you've seen me do?
- Um, besides your butt flaps on Instagram, uh- a lot.
(laughing)
(Classical Music playing)
- Who are you two and how do you know each other?
- I'm Clara
And I'm her daughter.
- I'm her mom
I go by, Jadu.
- I'm Mia.
- I'm Taliyah, that's my mom.
- I'm Austin, and I am Craig's adopted son.
- Do you have any other parents Austin?
- Yes, I have one other dad.
Craig's partner.
- What's your sexual orientation?
- I'm a lesbian.
- I identify as queer.
- Bisexual.
- I will use the word alt life.
- How do you feel about the word queer?
- Queer and faggot have a painful connotation to me,
but the new generation, I, yeah-
absolutely have adopted it as a banner.
If you will.
- Who wants to go first?
- Me.
When did you know I wasn't straight?
- When you brought your friend over to Casey's house
and she looked at a little butch.
And I was like, yeah, she likes my daughter.
Did she like you?
- We dated, OK.
She was whipped.
- I had no idea.
You lived with your partner, like in our house.
And I just thought you had a friend,
(giggles)
that you shared your bedroom with.
You like called me and my brother in for a conversation
and you told us, and I was like, Oh.
- Why didn't you tell her before that?
- I was always like really afraid,
that they wouldn't love me anymore.
- Do you think you raised me differently because I'm queer?
- No.
- I mean, you didn't even know, so.
- Yeah, so, I mean, I would've raised you
the same had I known.
- If the gage is heterosexuality is the norm.
Absolutely. We did not raise you normal.
- I have to say, I don't think it really applies
because I did not to identify you as queer
as I was bringing you.
- Do you think you were raised in a queer household?
- Definitely not.
For the most part.
My mom and my dad were like together.
So obviously there wasn't like anything queer going on.
Have you ever dated a woman?
- Yep.
(laughs)
- When was this?
- You were two, two years old.
About two years old when I first-
- I was two?
So was this when you were with my dad?
Was this on the low?
- Yes, it was.
Yeah, pretty much.
- Did dad ever find out?
- He did.
- Well, how did he react to that?
- Pissed. He was mad.
(laughs)
- It's okay, mom. I still love you.
- Can you ask Austin this?
- what's one of your roots?
A moment you were young where you realized you were queer.
- That was probably prior to the adoption.
I was like noticeably gay from a very young age.
And my mom and my biological father were very hateful.
And so she was like I hate you, but I have to deal with you.
- Okay. What's the queerest thing I do.
- I don't know, like kiss a woman.
(laughs)
How queer does it get?
What's the queerest thing that I do?
- I don't think it's really queer,
but I think it's not shaving your armpits.
- That's what I thought you were gonna say.
(laughs)
- Uh, besides your butt flaps on Instagram, uh, a lot.
(laughs)
- The queerest thing,
you know Austin, I'm just going to say this right now, son.
I don't think of you on those terms.
I think of you as this as, as, as my kid, you know.
- What's the straightest thing I do.
- Fall in love with boys.
(giggles)
- What is the straightest thing I do?
- I'll say hunting.
(laughing)
Hunting, we'll what else, uh, just li- going shooting.
Um, I mean, I don't know what like, it's, to me, it's like,
like, what is, what is straight?
So like I'm trying to think of that.
- It's really funny how the lines are blurred in our heads.
And we're sitting here trying to figure that out.
- The fact that certain activities are
like gendered or categorized or labeled as a certain thing.
And you don't really live in that realm.
If you liked something, do it.
If you don't like it, don't do it.
- Do you think it was any easier
or harder to come out to me because I'm queer?
- I did have issues with what other people would think.
Cause it'd be like, Oh, like my mom was gay and now I'm gay.
I was like maybe I shouldn't be gay
because like she was gay.
And I don't want people to think
that I'm gay because she raised me gay, you know?
So, so that, that was a thing.
- Who is someone I've dated that you've disliked,
and why?
- Every fucking one of them.
This little shit goes out in, I mean every week,
every month there was somebody different.
- Pfft.
(laughing)
- Ew.
Are you a top, bottom or verse?
- Verse.
- Ew,
I'm sick.
- Can we just move, onto the next?
(laughing)
- Cheers kids.
- Okay. Do you have any sex advice for me?
- I don't know,
if you have yet or not-
- What do you mean?
You don't know if she has or not?
- I kind of still think maybe you're a lightweight virgin.
- I'm not a virgin.
I hope that, you're- it doesn't hurt your feelings.
- Austin, what's something you want to get off your chest
that you've been afraid to talk to me about?
- I mean, we kind of touched on it when we hung out
this was last time,
he would always talk down to me as his kid,
but never as an equal.
And that was always something I had an issue with.
- I could not be your friend.
I had to set respect,
because I had the responsibility
of creating and guiding someone
into this crazy messed up world.
If it meant that I couldn't be nice everyday.
I'm okay with that.
- Do you worry about my safety?
- There's predators out there.
So I guess I do worry about her safety all the time,
but I do know she's a smart girl.
And she's aware of her surroundings and I worry,
but then I don't have to worry about her.
Cause I know that she can handle herself.
- Do you ever worry about my safety?
- What parent doesn't?
All the time.
The world is angry.
There are mean people in this world.
And if you ever come across a harsh, ignorant person,
years of dedication in a relationship
between us both, could be snatched out of our lives.
I don't know what my world would be like
without the thought of you.
- What does queer liberation mean to you?
- I think there's two sides of it.
There's that liberation that's internal.
That is like you feeling like you are comfortable,
but there's also like the political side of it.
- What does queer liberation mean to you?
- Absolutely get rid of the word queer.
Get rid of, uh, identifying yourself with a sexuality.
That is about 10, 5 percent of who you are.
- Was I a good parent to you when you were growing up?
What could I have done differently?
- You have had your moments where you felt like
you weren't a good parent,
or, you know, you were insecure about, you know
just the mom, wife and everything,
but I don't think you're a bad mom just so you know.
- You are an amazing parent.
(giggles)
You still are, just like, very caring.
Left us , really open to be like, who we want it to be.
That's the thing I value the most.
- Oh.
Austin, was I a good parent to you
when you were growing up?
And, uh, what could have I done differently?
- I am happy for everything that you've done for me.
I've always been able to be myself
as a result of y'all's upbringing.
Not very many people can say that, I am very,
grateful for everything you have done.
I love you very much.
- I love you too.
I don't know why that was so, hard.
- We're done.
- Cheers!
(laughs)
- Play truthordrink.com
- We sell the game.
Would you play this with other people?
You can talk shit about it if you want.
- Definitely.
When I invited my mom, she was like, we can just play this.
Like we don't have to record it. (laughing)
We can just play it at home.