until 10th gen h-series processors and
NVIDIA super graphics are coming to
laptops let's take a look at the
interesting new technologies that will
see in 2020 and find out the specs of
this new hardware let's start with what
Nvidia's got coming down the pipeline as
honestly it's more interesting compared
to 14 nanometer + + + so we've got some
new laptop GPUs well more like refreshed
I suppose there are going to be super
versions of the 2070 and 2080 which have
higher CUDA core counts the clock speeds
of the super versions are actually down
slightly there's more to it than that
though interestingly the boost clock of
the 2060 on this slide is a little
different compared to what Nvidia had
previously on their website same with
the 2060 previously the maximum power
was 90 watts now it's up to a hundred
and fifteen watts with a higher boost
there's also the new GT x16 50 TI which
had slot in between the GTX 1650 and
1660 TI something in between these make
sense as the 16 60 Ti is 50% faster than
the 1650 from my own testing and the
Radeon 5500 M from AMD fits in between
them so now NVIDIA has something in that
segment that said based on these specs
it looks like a 1650 with G DDR 6 memory
and possibly a slightly higher power
limit of up to 55 watts but at the same
time they also have the 1650 listed with
G DDR 6 now so there might be a newer
version of that with faster memory to
keep things confusing it doesn't seem
that the 1650 Ti will offer that much
more over the refreshed 1650 it's got
the same CUDA core count memory option
lower boost speed but higher power limit
by just 5 watts it sounds like there are
quite a few improvements with regards to
max Q graphics these improvements
include dynamic boost lower voltage DDR
6 memory advanced optimist and next gen
regulator efficiency first off there's
dynamic boost which shifts power between
the CPU and GPU for best performance at
the moment a laptop might have a 45 watt
power limit for the CPU and an 80 watt
power limit for the GPU these limits are
static and fixed with dynamic boost
there's per frame power balancing it can
shift power away from the CPU to the GPU
in a GPU heavy part of the game or vice
versa
laptops also need to have shared heat
pipes for dynamic boosting to work as
thermal performance will shift as a
result of this but considering almost
all laptops I've tested over the last
few years have this I doubt it'll be a
real limitation the electrical system of
the laptop also needs to be built to
support those higher power draws that
the GPU will be able to sustain when
boosting Nvidia says dynamic boost can
offer an up to 10 percent performance
improvement however as additional
hardware is required for this feature it
needs to be factored into the design so
dynamic boost will not be present in any
older models with a software update
we'll only see it in these new 20/20
laptops initially dynamic boost will
only work in DirectX API workloads over
time they will expand into Vulcan and so
on but for now it works with frame rate
based workloads such as gaming which
means if you're exporting a video in
Adobe Premiere or rendering then don't
expect to see dynamic boost being used
I asked if dynamic boost would only be
available for max Q graphics and was
told yes which makes sense as max Q are
basically just power limited variants of
the full power chips and full power max
P parts don't need to boost up they run
at max power already I also asked if
dynamic boost would work with both AMD
and Intel based laptops and was told yes
as long as it uses Nvidia graphics it
should be fine so no other platform or
processor limitations however it sounded
like Intel based configurations would be
first to market dynamic boost is not a
requirement and is up to the vendor to
implement so we could see some machines
that don't use it but Nvidia seems to
think that would be unlikely as it's a
good performance boost apparently the
user will have the option of disabling
dynamic boost should they want to for
some reason so I guess that means at
least I can benchmark with and without
it to see the performance difference the
next interesting thing coming is
advanced optimist
the way optimist worked previously is
that the lower powered integrated
graphics in the processor whether that
be Intel or Vega based connects to the
laptop screen when a graphically
intensive task is run the discreet
nvidia graphics takes over
however the signal goes via the AI GPU
which can potentially act as a
bottleneck some laptops today offer the
MUX which which light
the user swap between optimists enabled
for better battery life or optimist
disabled for optimum performance however
this requires a reboot to complete with
advanced optimists this will be a thing
of the past in order to use G sync or
Drive high resolutions at high refresh
rates the Nvidia graphics needs a direct
connection to the display and this is
one of the reasons why laptops with G
sync are less common the new advanced
optimist takes a new approach and uses a
dynamic display hardware switch there's
still both the integrated and discrete
Nvidia graphics but both of these will
go via the new dynamic switch which
chooses which GPU is needed and switches
as required this is an automatic process
and does not require a reboot as was the
case in the past this means in video
based laptops we'll be able to offer
good performance without being
restricted by previous optimist
constraints and that G sync could be
more commonplace we were told that the
first gaming laptop featuring advanced
optimist
will be the Lenovo Legion 7 but there
will be more on the way the way the
laptop automatically swaps between the
AI GPU and D GPU is based on the same
whitelist in-video already uses to
determine when to make the Nvidia
graphics take over a workload which from
my experience is quite good the only
thing that's changing is the underlying
hardware and software implementation the
user is also given the option to only
run in discrete graphics mode so you
should be able to easily disable the IGP
you without a reboot anytime it's great
they're giving us that choice there are
a few other improvements to the new GPUs
like lower voltage G DDR 6 memory Nvidia
says for a laptop with an 80 watt power
limit 20 watts or nearly 30% of that is
just going to the memory so lower
voltage G DDR 6 which saves power will
actually make a performance difference
as more power can be used to boost the
GPU core and clock speeds by working
with memory vendors this lower voltage
DDR 6 memory will in theory help boost
performance out of the power budget
Nvidia also said about 15% or 12 watts
is just turned into hate and dissipated
there have been improvements here with
the new and next generation regulators
the end result is similar less power
wasted that can instead be fed to the
GPU core to increase frequency and
performance now the interesting thing is
many of these improvements like low
voltage GDD are 6 and Regulator
efficiency
will not only be applied to the new
super versions but also the existing
lineup
so the 1660 Ti or 2060 that we had
previously this means that a 1660 ti
laptop from 2020 should outperform a
1660 ti laptop from 2019 as it's got
these improvements it sounds like the
GPU core is otherwise the same but these
other improvements will result in a
performance change this may be
challenging from a benchmarking
perspective because all of these new
graphics will exist with either AMD
raisin 4000 series CPUs which just
launched or until 10th gen CPUs which
are launching now so there will be CPU
differences at play there too I don't
think it's ideal for the existing
graphics options to change in
performance while keeping the same name
but it seems that's what's happening
here
so to summarise along with the new super
graphics options available the existing
lineup will also perform that off anyway
that's a good segue into the rest of the
news I can share with you today Intel's
10th gen h-series processors are on the
way these are still based on their 14
nanometer architecture so we're
basically looking at a refresh of ninth
gen which was a refresh of 8th gen the
memory speed has been boosted from ddr4
2666 to ddr4 29:33 so that's a welcome
change
granted it's still not quite the ddr4
3200 we're getting with Rison 4000 it's
worth noting the maximum turbo boosters
single core and these are thermal
velocity boost numbers so you'll only
hit these briefly most likely while
temperatures are under control
personally I think it's a little
confusing that there are both 6 and 8
core i7 processors but it is what it is
it looks like the 10 750 H essentially
replaces the 97 50h
so that may be a popular model in
upcoming laptops we'll have to wait and
see maybe the 10 875 H could also be
common offenders decide to give us 8 cos
I'm really interested to compare this
against the new rise and chips and I've
got an i7 10 875 H here in the gigabyte
error 17 right now so we'll post the
results when I'm able to I found it a
little odd that Intel were only
comparing gaming performance against
seventh gen I guess there's an argument
that people aren't upgrading their
machine every year but to me this is
kind of telling there's likely no decent
performance improvements compared to 8th
and 9th
which 10th gen is essentially a refresh
of there are some other improvements in
terms of Wi-Fi six and thunderbolt
support built-in but no comparisons were
provided showing us why this matters in
video was saying that our TX 2060
laptops will start at 999 u.s. dollars
which will include models such as the
Acer Nitro 5 HP omen 15 and Lenovo y50
so if those are actually available at
that price point it should be better
than what was previously available in
video acknowledged that similar spectre
laptops have gone on sale around that
price point in the past but now this
should be the entry-level price point
there are a number of laptops that are
going to be refreshed with 10th Gen
Intel processors and NVIDIA super
graphics the msi gs70 nate core 10th gen
processor and nvidia r TX 2080 Super Max
Q graphics unfortunately there's still a
bit of time before I can share
performance numbers the MSI creator 17
I've previously teased with some more an
8 core 10th gen processor but with
NVIDIA r-tx 2070 Super Max Q graphics
again full review of that along with its
1000 nits mini LED panel will be
available as soon as I can
Susa refreshing their lineup in the most
interesting way I've seen so far
compared to the others so much so that
I'll have a whole video dedicated to
showing you all of the new models coming
tomorrow so make sure you're subscribed
to the channel for all of that upcoming
content there's some really interesting
stuff on the way