I hoped this case wouldn't get any worse,
but we're talking about Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell,
so of course it did.
We had some big questions,
right?
Like what happened to JJ and Tylee?
How did police even know where to dig in Chad Daybell's yard?
The probable cause affidavit was unsealed so we're going to go through that and
get some much needed answers.
And they're not going to be easy to hear.
I want to warn you about that right now,
right up front.
But I think we need to talk about it simply because it's the only way to ruin
Chad and Lori's master plan.
But the belief system was is that she believed that there was going to be an
earthquake that was going to hit so large in Utah,
that,
um,
by the end of 2019 that they,
they wouldn't notice anything in her personal life going on.
Like what they did.
It's it's just,
it's vile.
But Chad and Lori never thought they'd have to answer for any of it,
much less for the kids.
You just heard Melanie say it.
We were never supposed to know about any of this.
So F them,
you know what,
it's the end of the world as they know it!
Hey,
if this is our first time meeting,
I'm Amy.
If you're already a subscriber,
and I hope you'll join us if you're not,
but if you were a part of our last conversation about this case,
well,
guess what?
We were right.
Lori's brother,
Alex Cox helped murder his own niece and nephew.
We don't know exactly what part he played,
but you better believe Lori and Chad's defense team will pin it all on him.
Obviously we know that that's not true,
but we have yet to find out what role each of these people had in all the deaths
surrounding them.
But don't you think it's kind of ironic that in life,
Alex was a true believer.
He was basically Chad and Lori's henchman,
but in death,
he was the one to lead police straight to their bodies,
or at least his cell phone did.
The last known sighting of Tylee was at Yellowstone park on September 8th.
She was with Lori,
JJ and her uncle Alex,
according to the cell phone data outlined in the probable cause affidavit.
They left the park at 6:40 that night by the West exit.
They stopped for barbecue and got back to Lori's townhouse in Rexburg around
8:37.
About an hour later,
Alex left and went to this gas station.
By 10:45 he's back at Lori's house and he stays for about half an hour.
Then his phone seems to go dark,
but the cell data puts him back at his own townhouse,
just a few doors down from Lori by 11:44 that night,
right?
So far this kind of back and forth between his house and Lori's,
even as late as 11:45 isn't unusual.
Things get really suspicious when he goes back to Lori's at 2:42
in the morning,
okay,
this is now September 9th.
And he stays there until 3:37 AM.
At 4:37
he goes home until 9:00 AM.
Now I know there's some random blocks of time missing in this scenario so far.
And I don't understand it either.
Maybe his phone is off or it's not moving during those times,
but this is how the affidavit is written.
At 9:21 AM Alex was in Chad Daybell's yard.
He's behind the East end of the barn,
near the fire pit.
That's an area known to the family as the pet cemetery.
He left around 11:39 that morning,
stopped at Del Taco and went home for the rest of the day.
Less than 15 minutes after Alex left,
Chad sent this text to his now deceased wife,
Tammy.
She was out of town,
visiting family,
not a coincidence by the way.
"Well,
I've had an interesting morning.
I felt I should burn all of the limb debris by the fire pit before it got too
soaked by the coming storms while I did
so I spotted a big raccoon along the fence.
I hurried and got my gun and he was still walking along.
I got close enough that one shot did the trick.
He is now in our pet cemetery.
Fun times!
Exclamation
point.
He added that.
Just,
I want to make that clear that's all.
Fun times,
that's him.
Stick with me because here's where it gets very grim.
In that pet cemetery about a foot down,
police found a layer of bricks and under those,
they found parts of Tylee's body.
Some burnt,
like they tried to cremate her,
but couldn't This would explain this.
Notice.
They were having,
um,
a few bonfires that were kind of out of the ordinary.
So they had a bonfire or a big bonfire last fall,
and they had two or three big bonfires this spring.
Clearly the text Chad sent to Tammy was pure CYA,
cover your ass.
Here's an explanation for the fire.
Here's an explanation for a gunshot.
God knows if Tylee was shot,
but either way,
you know what,
it's the perfect excuse for a fresh grave in the pet cemetery.
I wish we had Lori's cell phone data too,
so that we could see if she was there with everybody else.
Melanie Gib was the last non-family member to see JJ.
So JJ is home with Alex,
but there's no sign of Tylee.
Correct.
And how long did you stay with Lori?
That was it for a week.
So Thursday to Monday morning.
I'm assuming Tylee never called her.
She never called Tylee and even talk about her.
Never spoke about Tylee.
Did she speak at all about JJ?
Yeah,
I mean,
he was all around us and we were talking about him quite a bit,
actually.
What did she say?
As I arrived on the Thursday,
she had said that he had turned into a zombie the day before I got there and she
was pointing out behaviors of his like,
look how he's doing this.
That's unusual or look how he's doing that.
And she was trying to create,
um,
uncertainty in me about what I saw his behavior.
Like she was like,
what do you call that?
Like,
um,
a doubt,
a doubt.
Um,
and I was looking at him and thought,
well,
I don't know.
He kind of looks like to me,
you know,
hyper and angry one minute and kind of chill a cry in the next minute.
Like that's how his behaviors always were around me.
The affidavit gives us a little bit more information than maybe Melanie was
willing to share with the East Idaho news during that interview.
As proof that her autistic seven year old had turned into a zombie,
Laurie told her he was sitting still and watching TV,
saying he loved Satan,
and his vocabulary had increased.
The very last time they saw that little boy was late the night of
September 22nd.
Alex carried him back into Laurie's house and he appeared to be asleep
on his shoulder.
They remember it specifically because it was such a sweet thing to see.
When they woke up the next morning,
between eight and 9:00 AM and asked where he was,
Lori told them he'd been acting like a zombie,
crawling on top of the kitchen cabinets - like that area between the cabinet and
the ceiling - and he knocked a picture of Jesus off the refrigerator
so Alex came and got him.
Well,
it's not all crap.
Alex did come to get him.
That part is true.
His cell data puts him next to the pond in Chad's yard by 9:55 that morning.
But he's only there for about 20 minutes,
which I don't,
to me,
it doesn't sound like a lot of time to bury a body.
It does sound like just about the right amount of time to drop off a body.
They found JJ by the pond where Alex had been that day.
So like based on his cell phone data,
where he was that's exactly where they found JJ.
First,
they noticed a faint four by two and a half foot outline of sod that looked
different from the rest of the ground around it.
Under that they found several large flat rocks on top of two pieces of
paneling that were laid on top of JJ.
His body,
which was wrapped in black plastic and secured with duct tape.
When he saw them find his stepson Chad tried to escape.
Until police kicked him out Tuesday morning to serve the search warrant.
I saw his car take off down the road.
I'm headed South towards Rexburg.
And just seconds later,
the,
the marked police cars had their lights and sirens and floored it to go catch
him.
Yeah.
For such an all knowing powerful god,
it really seems like Chad did not see that one coming.
The other explainable deaths connected to them though.
I think we have enough information to say those were absolutely planned.
Let's follow the money.
Starting with Lori's fourth husband Charles.
He had a $1 million life insurance policy in
January,
2019.
Chad told Lori,
Charles was a zombie.
Six months later in July,
2019,
Lori followed through on her threats with Alex's help.
Of course.
And the night before Charles died,
didn't she call Alex and say,
come and stay with me.
Do you know?
She did.
Yeah.
And then the day Alex.
Shot,
Charles,
what do you think happened there?
I didn't know about it until like four days after it happened,
she called me and she says,
Hey,
did you see the news?
I'm like,
I don't watch the news.
Wait a sec.
What's your,
your best friend did not tell you for four days that her husband had been shot
and killed,
correct?
She told you Charles showed up to kill her.
That was his way is coming down from Texas to kill her.
And that's why she had called Alex the night before to come over to the house
and that he shot Charles.
And self-defense correct.
You knew though,
that she had told you months earlier that Charles was possessed of a zombie,
correct?
I don't know about you,
but if my friend tells me her child is a zombie and I know firsthand what
happens to zombies in her life?
Yeah.
I'm taking those kids with me.
Did she ever talk to you about Charles's insurance?
Yeah.
What did she say?
She said that he had,
I think about a million and,
um,
that she knew when he passed away that she would get,
she thought she'd get the money.
So she knew that she could get something still so that she wasn't completely
left without anything.
And she brought that up,
that she would get money.
Yeah.
Cause I was like,
what are you going to do?
How are you going to take,
you know,
the typical things that you're talking about when people pass away,
like how are you going to provide them.
For yourself?
We heard that she was also getting money as a single mom money from Tylee and
JJ because JJ had disabilities.
So I know Tylee received money from her father's death.
And yeah,
I think so.
I think JJ did too.
I,
I don't remember talking about that too often.
But we figured it out and it was around $6,000 a month tax free that she,
she got between the three.
Yeah.
I think she mentioned something like she could get that much amount.
Something sounds familiar.
And as the prosecutor brought up at her bail hearing,
all this time Lori has been collecting the money that was meant for those kids.
That sounds like five or 6,000 reasons why recovering the bodies of JJ and
Tylee was never supposed to happen.
This madness could have been stopped in January,
2019.
Charles didn't have to die.
He tried warning the police about Lori's dangerous state of mind,
multiple times.
I've tried to support her,
but it's got really,
really bad.
She
says I'm Nick
Snyder,
I've taken over Charles
and Charles will be killed.
I'm going to kill you today or tomorrow I can do it.
intelligible.
He even got a court order for her to get a psychiatric evaluation.
Right.
Did you go with her to that evaluation?
I did.
And what was that like?
They received her and she said,
Oh,
you know,
she passed with flying colors and she got out quickly and I waited on the
outside for,
you know,
and then Tylee is actually the one that picked us up from there.
They,
they went in the backroom and they just talked to her all kinds of stuff and ask
her all kinds of questions.
I,
we didn't get,
she didn't tell me in detail things.
I probably didn't want to know.
But,
um,
yeah,
she seemed that she,
she wasn't evaluated as mentally ill.
So she,
they,
they said that she's like,
Oh,
you're fine.
We know that you're not mentally,
I'll make,
she gave th that's what she told me that they said to her.
So.
Do you think she was honest with them and in her religious beliefs or did she
lie and,
and give them the answers they wanted to hear?
I don't know.
I don't know what they asked her.
I didn't,
I should have asked her that,
but I didn't.
I didn't go through the police Academy,
but when someone ends up dead after telling the police his wife wanted to kill
him,
I think that's what's called a clue.
If only one officer had made that connection after his death,
JJ and Tylee would still be alive.
And so would Tammy Daybell.
Chad's wife died in her sleep in October,
2019,
even though she was a healthy 49 year old training for a 5k.
But at that time there was no investigation and Chad collected her $430,000
in life insurance and married Lori in Hawaii two weeks later.
So here they are loved up living life without a care in the world while various
law enforcement agencies over here on the mainland were trying to connect dots
between deaths.
Tammy's body was finally exhumed for an autopsy on
December 11th.
But one day later,
Alex suddenly and unexpectedly dropped dead of natural
causes.
Hmm.
That is one huge,
unbelievable coincidence of a natural death.
Isn't it?
I mean,
I haven't been able to discover if Alex left Lori and Chad any money,
but let us know down below if you know differently.
But thanks to Nate Eaton at the East Idaho news,
we do know this.
And that would disagree with her or cause her any sort of problem would become a
zombie.
Pretty much.
Or,
or either considered to be dark.
They're a little bit different,
but that's another discussion.
Yeah.
From what I understand,
Laurie knew how many zombies were in every state.
Yeah.
So that was their commission though,
to get rid of all the zombies before,
you know,
tribulations came upon us.
That was their goal.
Probably not a coincidence that Lori told Melanie that Tylee turned into a
zombie when she was about 12 or 13,
right around the time she became a bratty teenager and JJ had special needs.
Melanie called him a handful.
So not surprising that Lori and Chad said he was getting in the way of their
mission.
And what did Alex do to upset Chad and Lori?
Are you getting real Manson family vibes from this case?
An apocalyptic cult with zealous followers,
blindly following orders.
Chad is Manson.
Lori is a smirking Squeaky Fromme and what's it all for?
What.
What ultimately did they want?
What did Chad and Laurie want?
Power?
Followers?
Was it about sex?
Was it about money?
Was it about God?
What was their ultimate goal?
Do you think?
Oh,
that's a really personal thing to hard to share because of,
she shared a lot of personal things with me and I hate to share that out loud,
but I'll just say that it was a fatal attraction.
There was a lot of love between the two and they really,
really seemed to love each other a lot and they just couldn't wait to be
together.
Lori was arrested in February,
2020 on two felony charges for desertion and non-supportive children and three
misdemeanors for failing to produce them,
obstructing justice,
and contempt of court.
Chad was arrested on June 9th on two felony counts of concealment or destruction
of evidence.
His preliminary hearing is postponed until August,
but Lori's is still scheduled for July 9th and 10th.
Who knows what will happen between now and then?
Remember they think the world is ending on July 22nd,
2020.
So maybe they'll get a big,
I told you so moment,
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