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now please welcome the 46th president of
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Biden great to be here thank
you and please welcome the 45th
president of the United States Donald
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Trump gentlemen thanks so much for being
here let's begin the debate and let's
start with the issue that voters
consistently say is their top concern
the economy President Biden inflation
has slowed but prices remain high since
you took office the price of Essentials
has increased for example basket of
groceries that cost $100 then now costs
more than
$120 and typical home prices have jumped
more than 30% what do you say to voters
who feel they are worse off under your
presidency than they were under
President Trump we got to take a look at
what I was left when I became president
what Mr Trump left me we had an economy
that was in freefall the pandemic was so
badly handled many people were dying all
he said was it's not that serious just
inject a little bleach into your arm
you'll be all right the economy
collapsed there were no jobs
unemployment rate Rose to 15% it was
terrible and so what we had to do is try
to put things back together again that's
exactly what we began to do we created
15,000 new jobs we brought out position
where we have 800,000 new manufacturing
jobs but there's more to be done there's
more to be done workingclass people are
still in trouble I come from Scranton
Pennsylvania I come of household where
the kitchen table if the things weren't
able to be met during the mon was a a
problem price of eggs the price of gas
the price of housing the price of a
whole range of things that's why I'm
working so hard to make sure I deal with
those problems and we're going to make
sure that we reduce the price of housing
we're going to make sure we build two
two million new units we're going to
make sure we cap rents so corporate
greed can't take over the combination
but of was left with in corporate greed
is the reason why we're in this problem
right now in addition to that we're in a
situation where if you had take a look
at all that was done in his
administration he he didn't do much at
all by the time he left there things
were in chaos literally chaos and so we
put things back together we created I
said those jobs we make sure we had a
situation where we now we brought down
the price of prescription drugs which is
a major issue for many people to $15 for
for uh a insulin shot as opposed to $400
no senior has to pay more than $200 for
any drug all the drugs they can include
beginning next year in a situation as
make and we're going to make that
available to everybody to all Americans
so we're working to bring down the price
of around the kitchen table and that's
what we're going to get done thank you
president Trump we had the greatest
economy in the history of our country we
have never done so well every everybody
was amazed by it other countries were
copying us we got hit with covid and
when we did we spent the money necessary
so we wouldn't end up in a Great
Depression the likes of which we had in
1929 but by the time we finished so we
did a great job we got a lot of credit
for the economy a lot of credit for the
military and no Wars and so many other
things everything was rocking good but
the thing we never got the credit for
and we should have is getting us out of
that covid mess uh he created mandates
that was a disaster for our country but
other than that we had we had given them
back a a country where the stock market
actually was higher than preco and
nobody thought that was even possible uh
the only jobs he created are for illegal
immigrants and bounceback jobs a
bounceback from the co he has not done a
good job he's done a poor job in
inflation's killing our country it is
absolutely killing us thank you
President Biden well look the greatest
economy in the world he's the only one
that thinks that I think I don't know
anybody else that thinks he's he the
greatest economy in the world and you
know the fact of the matter is that uh
we PR ourselves in a situation where his
his economy he rewarded the wealthy he
had the largest tax cut in American
history $2 trillion he raised a deficit
larger than any president has in any one
term he's the only President other than
Herbert Hoover who's had lost more jobs
than he had when he began since Herbert
Hoover the idea that he did something
that was significant in the military you
know when he was president there were
still killing people in Afghanistan he
didn't do anything about that when he
was President we were still find
ourselves in a position where you had a
notion that we were this safe country
the truth is I'm the only president
this Century that doesn't have any this
this decade that don't any troops dying
anywhere in the world like he did uh
president Trump I want to follow up if I
can you want I allowed to respond to him
well I'm going to ask you a follow up
you can do whatever you want with the
minute that we give you um I I want to
follow up you you want to impose a 10%
tariff on all Goods coming into the US
how will you ensure that that doesn't
drive prices even higher not going to
drive them higher it's just going to
cause countries that have been ripping
us off for years like China and many
others in all fairness to China it's
going to just force them to pay us a lot
of money reduce our deficit tremendously
and give us a lot of power for other
things but he would he made a statement
the only thing he was right about is I
gave you the largest tax cut in history
I also gave you the largest regulation
cut in history that's why we had all the
jobs and the jobs went down and then
they bounced back and he's taking credit
for bounceback jobs you can't do that he
also said he inherited 9% inflation now
he inherited almost no inflation and it
stayed that way for 4 15 months and then
it blew up under his leadership because
they spent money like a bunch of people
that didn't know what they were doing
and they don't know what they were doing
it was the worst probably the worst
Administration in history there's never
been and as far as Afghanistan is
concerned I was getting out of
Afghanistan but we were getting out with
dignity with strength with power he got
out it was the most embarrassing day in
the history of our country's life
president Trump over the last eight
years under both of your administrations
the national debt soord to record highs
and according to a new nonpartisan
analysis president Trump your
Administration approved $8.4 trillion in
new debt while so far President Biden
you've approved $4.3 trillion in new
debt so former president Trump many of
the tax cuts that you signed into law
are set to expire next year you want to
extend them and go even further you say
with the US facing trillion dollar
deficits and record debt why should top
earners and corporations pay even less
in taxes than they do now because the
tax cuts spurred the greatest economy
that we've ever seen just prior to co
and even after Co it was so strong that
we were able to get through Co much
better than just about any other country
but we spurred that tax spurred now when
we cut the taxes as an example the uh
corporate tax was cut down to 21% from
39% plus beyond that uh we took in more
Revenue with much less tax and companies
were bringing back trillions of dollars
back into our country the country was
going like never before and we were
ready to start paying down debt we're
ready to start using the liquid gold
right under our feet the oil and gas
right under our feet we were going to
have something that nobody else has had
we got hit with covid we did a lot to
fix it I gave him an unbelievable
situation with all of the Therapeutics
and all of the things that we came up
with we we gave him something great
remember more people died under his
administration even though we had
largely fixed it more people died under
his administration
than our Administration and we were
right in the middle of it something
which a lot of people don't like to talk
about but he had far more people dying
in his administration he did the mandate
which is a disaster mandating it the
vaccine went out he did a mandate on the
vaccine which is the thing that people
most objected to about the vaccine and
he did a very poor job just a very poor
job and I will tell you not only poor
there but throughout the entire world
we're no longer respected as a country
they don't respect our leadership they
don't respect the United States anymore
we're like a third world Le between
weaponization of his election trying to
go after his political opponent all of
the things he's done we've become like a
third world nation and it's a shame the
damage he's done to our country and I'd
love to ask him and will why he allowed
millions of people to come in here from
prisons jails and mental institutions to
come into our country and destroy our
country president Trump we will get to
immigration uh later in this block
President Biden uh I want to give you an
opportunity to respond to this question
about the national debt he had the
largest national debt of any president
fouryear period number one number two
that $2 trillion tax cut benefited the
very wealthy I what I'm going to do is
fix the tax system for example we have a
thousand trillionaires in America I mean
billionaires in America and what's
happening they're in a situation where
they in fact pay 88.2% in taxes if they
just paid 24% or 25% either one of those
numbers they'd raised $500 million
billion dollars I should say in a
10-year period we'd be able to WR wipe
out his debt we'd be able to help make
sure that all those things we need to do
Child Care Elder Care making sure that
we continue to Str strengthen our health
care System making sure that we're able
to make every single solitary
person eligible for what I've been able
to do with the uh with with the covid
excuse me with um dealing with
everything we have to do with uh
look if we finally beat Medicare thank
you president uh Biden president Trump
well he's right he did beat Medicare he
beat it to death and he's destroying
Medicare because all of these people are
coming in they're putting them on
Medicare they're putting them on Social
Security they're going to destroy Social
Security this man is going to
single-handedly destroy Social Security
these millions and millions of people
coming in they're trying to put them on
Social Security he will wipe out Social
Security he will wipe out Medicare so he
was right in the way he finished that
sentence and it's a shame what's
happened to our country in the last four
years is not to be believed foreign
countries I'm friends with a lot of
people they cannot believe what happened
to the United States of America we're no
longer respected they they don't like us
we give them everything they want and
they they think we're stupid they think
we're very stupid people what we're
doing for other countries and they do
nothing for us what this man has done is
absolutely criminal thank you president
Trump danana this is the first
presidential election since the Supreme
Court overturned roie Wade this morning
the Court ruled on yet another abortion
case temporarily allowing emergency
abortions to continue in Idaho despite
that State's restrictive ban former
president Trump you take credit for the
decision to overturn roie Wade which
returned the issue of abortion to the
states correct however the federal
government still plays a role in whether
or not women have access to abortion
pills they're used in about 2third of
all abortions as president would you
block abortion medication first of all
the Supreme Court just approved the
abortion pill and I agree with their
decision to have done that and I will
not block it and if you look at this
whole question that you're asking a
complex but not really complex 51 years
ago you had Ro v Wade and everybody
wanted to get it back to the States
everybody without exception Democrats
Republicans liberals conservatives
everybody wanted it back religious
leaders and what I did is I put three
great Supreme Court Justices on the
court and they happened to vote in favor
of killing Ro v Wade and moving it back
to the States this is something that
everybody wanted now 10 years ago or so
they started talking about how many and
how many this getting into other things
but every legal scholar throughout the
world the most respected wanted it
brought back to the States I did that
now the states are working it out if you
look at Ohio it was a decision that was
it was an end result that was a little
bit more liberal than you would have
thought uh Kansas I would say the same
thing uh Texas is different Florida is
different but they're all making their
own decisions right now and right now
the states control it that's the vote of
the people like Ronald re rean I believe
in the exceptions I am a person that
believes and frankly I think it's
important to believe in the exceptions
some people you have to follow your
heart some people don't believe in that
but I believe in the exceptions for rape
incest and the life of the mother I
think it's very important some people
don't follow your heart but you have to
get elected also and because that has to
do with other things you got to get
elected the problem they have is they're
radical because they will take the life
of a child in the eighth month the ninth
month and even after birth after birth
if you look at the former governor of
Virginia he was willing to do this he
said we'll put the baby aside and we'll
determine what we do with the baby
meaning we'll kill the baby what
happened is we brought it back to the
states and the country is now coming
together on this issue it's been a great
thing thank you President Biden it's
been a terrible thing what you've done
the fact is that the vast majority of
constitutional Scholars support it row
when it was decided support it row and
was that's this idea that they're all
against it is just ridiculous and this
is the guy who says the state should be
able to have it we're in a state we're
in six weeks you don't even know whether
you're pregnant or not but you cannot
see a doctor have your and have him
decide on what your circumstances are
whether you need help the idea that
states are able to do this is a little
like saying we're going to turn civil
rights back to the States Let each state
have a different rule look there's so
many young women who have been including
a young woman who just was murdered and
he he went to the funeral uh the idea
that she was murdered by a by by an
immigrant coming into they talk about
that but here's the deal there's a lot
of young women are being raped by their
by their in-laws by their by by their
spouses brothers and sisters by just
it's it's just ridiculous and they can
do nothing about it and they try to
arrest them when they cross state line
thank you there have been many young
women murdered by the same people he
allowed to come across our border we
have a border that's the most dangerous
place anywhere in the world considered
the most dangerous place anywhere in the
world and he opened it up and these
killers are coming into our country and
they are raping and killing women and
it's a terrible thing as far as the
abortions concerned it is now back with
the states the states are voting uh in
many cases the it's frankly a very
liberal decision in many cases it's the
opposite but they're voting and it's
bringing it back to the vote of the
people which is what everybody wanted
including the founders if they knew
about this issue which frankly they
didn't but they would have everybody
wanted brought back Ronald Reagan wanted
it brought back he wasn't able to get it
everybody wanted it brought back and
many presidents had tried to get it back
I was the one to do it and again this
gives it the vote of the people and
that's where they wanted it every legal
scholar Wanted It That Way staying on
the topic of abortion President Biden
seven states I'll let you do that this
is a same topic seven states have no
legal restrictions on how far into a
pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion
do you support any legal limits on how
late a woman should be able to terminate
a pregnancy I supported row v Wade which
had three trimesters the first time is
between the woman and the doctor second
time is between the doctor and an
extreme situation the third time is
between the doctor I mean between the
woman and the state the idea that the
politicians the that the founders want
the politicians to be the ones making
decisions about Woman's Health is
ridiculous that's the last no politician
should be making that decision a doctor
should be making those decisions that's
how it should be run that's what you're
going to do and if I'm elected I'm going
to restore roie Wade so that means he
can take the life of the baby in the
ninth month and even after birth because
some states Democrat run take it after
birth again the governor former governor
of Virginia put the baby down then we
decide what to do with it so he's in
he's willing to as we say rip the baby
out of the womb in the ninth month and
kill the baby nobody wants that to
happen democrat or republican nobody
wants it to happen ly that is simply not
true the roie way does not provide for
that that's not the circumstance only if
woman's life is in danger she's going to
die that's the only circumstance which
that can happen but we are not for late
term abortion period period period under
roie W you have late term abortion you
can do whatever you want depending on
the state you can do whatever you want
we don't think that's a good thing we
think it's a radical thing we think the
Democrats are the radicals not the
Republicans for 51 years that was a law
51 years constant of scholarship said it
was the right way to go 51 years and it
was taken away because this guy put very
conservative members on the Supreme
Court he takes credit for taking it away
what's he going to do what's he going to
do in fact if the if the Maga
Republicans he gets elected and the Maga
Republicans control the Congress and
they pass an Universal van on abortion
period across the board at six weeks or
seven or eight or 10 weeks something
very very conservative is he going to
sign that bill I'll veto it he'll sign
it thank you let's turn down to the
issue of immigration and border security
President Biden a record number of
migrants have illegally crossed the
southern border on your watch
overwhelming border states and
overburdening cities such as New York
and Chicago and in some cases causing
Safety and Security concerns given that
why should voters trust you to solve
this crisis because we worked very hard
to get a bipartisan agreement that not
only changed all of that made sure that
we are in a situation where you had no
circumstance where they could come
across the border with the number of
Border Police there are now we
significantly increased the number of
Asylum officers significantly by the way
the border patrol endorsed me endorsed
my position in addition to that we find
ourselves in a situation where when he
was president he was taking separating
babies from their mothers putting them
in cages making sure they were the
families were separated that's not the
right way to go what I've done since
I've changed the law what's happened
I've changed it in a way that now you're
in a situation where they're 40% fewer
people coming across the border legally
that's better than when he left office
and I'm going to continue to move until
we get the total ban on the the the
total initiative relative to what we can
do with more border patrol and more
Asylum officers president Trump I really
don't know what he said at the end of
that sentence I don't think he knows
what he said either look we had the
safest Border in the history of our
country the B all he had to do is leave
it all he had to do is leave it he
decided to open up our border open up
our country to people that are from
prisons people that are from mental
institutions insane asylum terrorists we
have the largest number of terrorists
coming into our country right now all
terrorists all over the world not just
in South America all over the world they
come from the Middle East everywhere all
over the world they're pouring in and
this guy just left it open and he didn't
need legislation because I didn't have
legislation I said close the border we
had the safest Border in history in that
final couple of months of my presidency
we had according to border patrol who is
great and by the way who endorsed me for
president but I won't say that but they
endorse me for president Brandon just
speak to him but look we had the safest
Border in history now we have the worst
Border in history there's never been
anything like it and people are dying
all over the place including the people
that are coming up in president Trump
President Biden the only terrorist who's
done anything crossing the border is one
who came along and killed three under
his administration killed an Al-Qaeda
person come in and his administration
kill three American soldiers kill three
American soldiers that's the only
terrorist that there I'm not saying it
no terrorist ever got through but the
idea they're emptying their prisons
we're we're welcoming these people
that's simply not true there is no data
to support what he said once again he's
exaggerating he's lying president Trump
um staying on the topic of immigration
you've said that you're going to carry
out quote the largest domestic
deportation operation in American
history unquote does that mean that you
will Deport every undocumented immigrant
in America including those who have jobs
including those whose spouses are
citizens and including those who have
lived here for decades if so how will
you do it just one second he said we
killed three people the people we killed
are Al baghdaddy and salaman the two
greatest terrorists biggest terrorists
anywhere in the world and it had a huge
impact on everything not just border on
everything he's the one to kill people
with the bad water including hundreds of
thousands of people dying and also
killing our citizens when they come in
we we are living right now in A Rat's
Nest they're killing our people in New
York in California in every state in the
Union because we don't have borders
anymore every state is now a border and
because of his ridiculous insane and
very stupid policies people are coming
in and they're killing our citizens at a
level that we've never SE we call it
migrant crime I call it Biden migrant
crime they're killing our citizens at a
level that we've never seen before and
you're reading it like these three
incredible young girls over the last few
days one of them I just spoke to the
mother and they just had the funeral for
this girl 12 years old this is horrible
what's taking place what's taking place
in our country we're literally an
uncivilized country now he doesn't want
it to be he just doesn't know he open
the borders nobody's ever seen anything
like and we have to get a lot of these
people out and we have to get them out
fast because they're going to destroy
our country just take a look at where
they're living they're living in luxury
hotels in New York City and other places
our veterans are on the street they're
dying because he doesn't care about our
veterans he doesn't care he doesn't like
the military at all and he doesn't care
about our veterans nobody been worse I
had the highest approval rating for
veterans taking care of the VA he has
the worst he's gotten rid of all the
things that I approved chice that I got
through Congress all of the different
things I approved they abandoned we had
by far the highest and now it's down in
less than half because he's done all
these great things that we did and I
think he did it just because I approved
it which is crazy but he has killed so
many people at our border by allowing
all of these people to come in a very
sad day Ander President Biden you have
the mic every single thing he said Is A
Lie every single one for example
veterans are a hell of a lot better off
since I P passed the pack attac one
million of them now have insurance and
their families have it their families
have it because what happened whether it
was agent orange or burn pits they're
all being covered now and he oppos his
group opposed that also in a situation
where we have great respect for veterans
my spent my son spent a year in Iraq
living one next to one of those burn
pits came back with Stage for G blastoma
I was recently in in in France for a
D-Day and I spoke to all about those
Heroes that died I went to the World War
II Cemetery World War I Cemetery he
refused to go to he was standing with
his fourstar General and he told me he
said I don't want to go in there because
they're a bunch of losers and suckers my
son was not a loser was not a sucker
you're the sucker you're the loser
president Trump uh first of all that was
a madeup quote suckers and losers they
made it up it was in a third rate
magazine that's failing like many of
these magazines uh he made that up he
put it in commercials we've notified him
we had 19 people that said I didn't say
it and think of this who would say I'm
at a cemetery or I'm talking about our
veterans because nobody's taken better
care I'm so glad this came up and he
brought it up there's nobody that's
taken better care of our soldiers than I
have
to think that I would in front of
generals and others say suckers and
losers we have 19 people that said it
was never said by me it was made up by
him just like Russia Russia Russia was
made up just like the 51 intelligence
agents are made up just like the new
thing with the 16 economists are talking
it's the same thing 51 intelligence
agents said that the laptop was Russia
disinformation it wasn't that came from
his son Hunter it wasn't Russia
disinformation he made up the suckers
and losers so he should apologize to me
right now fourstar General standing at
your side was on your staff who said you
said it period that's number one and
number two the idea the idea that I have
to apologize to you for anything along
the line we've done more for veterans
than any president has in American
history American history and they now
are their family the only sacred
obligation we have as a country is to
care for our veterans when they come
home and their families and equip them
when they go to war that's what we're
doing that's what the VA is doing now
they're doing more for veterans than
ever before in our history all right
thank you so much let's move to the
topic of foreign policy I want to begin
with Russia's war against Ukraine which
is now in its third year former
president Trump Russian President
Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this
war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian
territory it is already claimed and
Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO
are Putin's terms acceptable to you
first of all our veterans and our
soldiers can't stand this guy they can't
stand him they think he's the worst
commander-in-chief if that's what you
call him that we've ever had they can't
stand him so let's get that straight and
they like me more than just about any of
them and that's based on every single
bit of information as far as Russia and
Ukraine if we had a real president the
president that knew that was respected
by Putin he would have never he would
have never invaded Ukraine a lot of
people are dead right now much more than
people know you know they talk about
numbers you can double those numbers
maybe triple those numbers he did
nothing to stop it in fact I think he
encouraged Russia from going in I tell
you what happened he was so bad with
Afghanistan it was such a horrible
embarrassment most embarrassing moment
in the history of our country that when
Putin watched that and he saw the
incompetence that he should he should
have fired those generals like I fired
the one that you mentioned and so he's
got no love loss but he should have
fired those generals no General got
fired for the most embarrassing moment
in the history of our country
Afghanistan where we left billions of
dollars of equipment behind we lost 13
beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were
obliterated and by the way we left
people behind too we left American
citizens behind when Putin saw that he
said you know what I think we're going
to go in and maybe take my this was his
dream I talked to him about it his dream
the difference is he never would have
invaded Ukraine never just like Israel
would have never been invaded in a
million years by Hamas you know why
because Iran was broke with me I
wouldn't let anybody do business with
them they ran out of money they were
broke they had no money for Hamas they
had no money for anything no money for
Terror that's why you had no Terror at
all during my Administration this place
the whole world is blowing up under him
President Biden I've never heard so much
malar in my whole life look the fact of
the matter is that we're in a situation
where let's take the last Point first
Iran attacked American troops kill
caused brain damage for a number of
these troops and he did nothing about it
recent when he was president they they
attacked he said they're just having
headaches that's all it is he didn't do
a thing when they attack took place
number one number two we got over
100,000 Americans and others out of of
Afghanistan during that airlift number
three we found ourselves in a situation
where if you take a look at what Trump
did in Ukraine he this guy told Ukraine
told Trump do whatever you want and do
whatever you want and that's exactly
what Trump did to Putin encourage him do
whatever you want and he went in listen
to what he said when he went in it was
going to take ke in five days remember
because it's part of the old Soviet
Union that's what he wanted to
reestablish
ke and he in fact didn't do it at all he
didn't wasn't able to get it done and
they've lost over they've lost thousands
of thousands of troops 500,000 troops
president Trump I come back to you for
for one minute I just want to go back to
my original question which is are
Putin's terms acceptable to you keeping
the territory in UK acceptable no
they're not acceptable but look this is
a war that never should have started if
we had a leader in this war he led
everybody along he's given $200 billion
now or more to Ukraine he's given $200
billion that's a lot of money I don't
think there's ever been anything like it
every time that zalinski comes to this
country he walks away with $60 billion
do he's the greatest salesman ever and
I'm not knocking him I'm not knocking
anything I'm only saying the money that
we're spending on this war and we
shouldn't be spending it should have
never happened I will have that War
settled between Putin and zalinski as
president elect before I take office on
January 20th I'll have that War settled
people being killed so needlessly so
stupidly and I will get it settled and
I'll get it settled fast before I take
office President Biden you have a minute
the fact is that Putin is a war criminal
he's killed thousands and thousands of
people and he has made one thing clear
he wants to reestablish what was part of
the Soviet Empire not just a pieace he
wants all of Ukraine that's what he
wants and then you think he'll stop
there do you think he'll stop when he if
he if he takes Ukraine what do you think
happens to Poland what do you think
bellarus what do you think happens to
those NATO countries and so if you want
a war you ought to find out what he's
going to do because if in fact he does
what he says and walks away by the way
all that money we give Ukraine from
weapons we make here in the United
States we give them the weapons not the
money at this point and and our NATO
allies have produced as much funding for
Ukraine as we have that's why it's
that's why we're strong thank you moving
on to the Middle East in October Hamas
attacked Israel killing more than a
thousand people and taking hundreds of
hostages among those held and thought to
still be alive our five Americans
Israel's response has killed thousands
of Palestinians and created a
humanitarian crisis in Gaza President
Biden you've put forward a a proposal to
resolve this conflict
but so far Hamas has not released the
remaining hostages and Israel is
continuing its military offensive in
Gaza so what additional leverage will
you use to get Hamas and Israel to end
the war you have two minutes number one
everyone from the United Nations secur
security Council straight through to the
G7 to the Israelis and Neto himself have
endorsed the plan I put forward endorsed
the plan I put forward which has three
stages to it the first stage is trade
the hostages for a ceasefire second
phase is a ceasefire with additional
conditions the third phase is no the end
of the war the only one who wants the
war to continue is Hamas number one
they're the only ones standing out we're
still pushing hard from to get them to
accept in the meantime what's happened
in Israel we're find the only thing I've
denied Israel was 2,000lb bombs they
don't work very well in populated areas
they whole lot innocent people we're
providing Israel with all the weapons
they need and when they need them and by
the way I'm the guy that organized the
world against Iran when they had a
full-blown intercontinental bistic
ballistic missile attack on Israel no
one was hurt no one Israeli was
accidentally killed and it stopped we
saved Israel we are the biggest producer
of support for Israel of anyone in the
world and so that's they're two
different things Hamas can not be
allowed to be continue we continue to
send our experts and our intelligent
people as to how they can get Hamas like
we did Ben Laden you don't have to do it
and by the way they've been greatly
weakened toas greatly weakened and they
should be they should be eliminated but
you've got to be careful for what using
certain weapons among population
centers just going back to Ukraine for
one second we have an ocean separating
us the European nations together
have spent a hundred billion or maybe
more than that less than us why doesn't
he call them and say you got to put up
your money like I did with NATO I got
them to put up hundreds of billions of
dollars the Secretary General of NATO
said Trump did the most incredible job
I've ever seen you wouldn't they
wouldn't have any they were going out of
business we were spending almost 100% of
the money was was paid by us he didn't
do that he's getting all you got to ask
these people to put up the money we're
over a hundred billion dollar more spent
and it has a bigger impact on them
because of location because we have an
ocean in between you got to ask them as
far as Israel and and Hamas Israel is
the one that wants to go he said the
only one who wants to keep going is
Hamas actually Israel is the one and you
should let him go and let him finish a
job he doesn't want to do it he's become
like a Palestinian but they don't like
him because he's a very bad Palestinian
he's a weak
one President Biden you have a minute
I've never heard so much foolishness
this is a guy who wants to get out of
NATO are you going to stay in NATO he's
going to pull out of NATO the idea that
we have our strength lies in our
alliances as well it may be a big ocean
but we ever able to avoid a war in in
Europe a major war in Europe what
happens if in fact you have Putin
continue to go into into NATO we have an
article five agreement attack on one is
Attack on all you want to start the
nuclear war he keeps talking about go
ahead let Putin go in and control
Ukraine and then move on to Poland and
other places
see what happens then he has no idea
what the hell he's talking about and by
the way I got 50 other nations around
the world to support Ukraine including
Japan and South Korea because they
understand that this this this kind of
dislocation has a serious threat to the
whole world peace no no major war in
Europe has ever been able to be
contained just to Europe president Trump
just to follow up would you support the
creation of an independent Palestinian
state in order to achieve peace in the
region I'd have to to see but before we
do that the problem we have is that we
spend all the money so they kill us on
trade I made great trade deals with the
European nations because if you add them
up they're about the same size
economically their economy is about the
same size as the United States and they
were no cars no they don't want anything
that we have but we're supposed to take
their cars their food their everything
their agriculture I changed that but the
big thing I changed is they don't want
to pay and the only reason that he can
play games with NATO is because I got
them to put up hundreds of billions of
dollars I said and he's right about this
I said no I'm not going to support NATO
if you don't pay they asked me that
question would you guard us against
Russia at a very secret meeting of the
28 uh States at that time Nations at
that time and they said no if you don't
pay I won't do that and you know what
happened billions and billions of
dollars came flowing in the next day and
the next months but now we're we're in
the same position we're paying
everybody's bills let's turn to the
issue of democracy former president
Trump I want to ask you about January 6
2021 after you rallied your supporters
that day some of them stormed the
capital to stop the constitutionally
mandated counting of electoral votes as
president you swore an oath to quote
preserve protect and defend unquote the
Constitution what do you say to voters
who believe that you violated that oath
through your actions and in action on
January 6 and worry that you'll do it
again I don't think too many believe
that and let me tell you about January
6th on January 6th we had a great border
nobody coming through very few on
January 6th we were energy independent
on January 6th we had the lowest taxes
ever we had the lowest regulations ever
on January 6 we were respected all over
the world all over the world we were
respected and then he comes in and we're
now left that we're like a bunch of
stupid people that what happened to the
United States's reputation under this
man's leadership is horrible including
weaponization which I'm sure at some
point you'll be talking about where he
goes after his political opponent
because he can't beat him fair and
square you have 80 seconds left my
question was what do you say to those
voters who believe that you VI violated
your constitutional oath through your
actions in action on January 6 2021 and
worry that you'll do it again well I
didn't say that to anybody I said
peacefully and patriotically and Nancy
Pelosi if you just watched the news from
two days ago on tape to her daughter
who's a documentary filmmaker they say
but she's saying oh no it's my
responsibility I was responsible for
this because I offered her 10,000
soldiers or National Guard and she
turned them down and the mayor of in
writing by the way the mayor in writing
turned it down the mayor of of DC they
turned it down I offered 10,000 because
I could see I had virtually nothing to
do they asked me to go make a speech I
could see what was happening everybody
was saying they're going to be there on
January 6 they're going to be there and
I saidou know what there's a lot of
people coming you could feel it you
could feel it too and you could feel it
and I said they ought to have some
National Guard or whatever and I offered
it to her and she now admits that she
turned it down and it was the same day
she was I don't know she can't be very
happy with her daughter because it made
her into a liar she said I take full
responsibility for January 6th President
Biden
look he encouraged those folks who go up
in Capitol Hill number one I sat in the
dining room off the Oval Office he sat
there for three hours three hours
watching begging being begged by his
vice president and a number of his
colleagues on the Republican side as
well to do something to call for a stop
to end it instead he talked talked about
these people being Patriots and and and
great patrons of America in fact he says
he'll now forgive them for what they've
done he they've been con convicted he
says he wants to commute their sentences
and say that no but he went to every
single Court in the nation I don't know
how many cases scores of cases including
the Supreme Court and they said they
said no no this guy this guy is
responsible for doing what is being was
done he did do a damn thing and these
people should be in jail and they should
be ones are being held accountable and
he wants to let them all out and now he
says if he loses again such a Wier that
he is that it could be a blood bath
thank you President Biden president
Trump what they've done to some people
that are so innocent you ought to be
ashamed of yourself what you have done
how you've destroyed the lives of so
many people when they RI down Portland
when they rip down uh many other cities
you go to Minnesota Minneapolis what
they've done there with the fires all
over the city if I didn't bring in the
National Guard that City would have been
destroyed when you look at all of the
they took over big chunks of Seattle I
was all set to bring in the National
Guard they heard that they saw them
coming and they left immediately what he
said about this whole subject is so off
peacefully patriotic one other
thing the unselect committee which is
basically two horrible Republicans that
are all gone now out of office and
Democrats all Democrats they destroyed
and deleted all of the information they
found because they found out we were
right right we were right and they
deleted and destroyed all of the
information they should go to jail for
that if a republican did that they'd go
to jail thank you president Trump
President Biden I want to give you a
minute the only person on this stage is
a convicted fellon and is the man I'm
looking at right now and the fact of the
matter is he isn't he's what he's
telling you is simply not true the fact
is that there was no effort on his part
to stop what was going on up in Capitol
Hill and all those people every one of
those who were convicted deserves to be
convicted it the idea that they didn't
kill somebody just went in and broke
down doors broke the windows occupied
offices turned over desk turn them over
statues the idea that those people are
patriots come on when I asked him the
first two debates we had the debates we
had first time around I said will you
denounce the proud boy he said no I'll
tell them to stand by the idea he's
refusing to will you denounce these guys
you denounce the people we're talking
talking about now you denounce the
people who attack that Capital what are
you going to
do I'm going to uh give you a a minute
president Trump for a follow-up question
I have um after a jury convicted you of
34 felonies last month you said if
reelected you would quote have every
right to go after unquote your political
opponents you just talked about members
of the select committee on January 6
going to jail your main political
opponent is standing on stage with you
tonight can you clarify exactly what it
means about you feeling you have every
right to go after your political
opponents well I said my retribution is
going to be success we're going to make
this country successful again because
right now it's a failing Nation my
retribution is going to be success but
when he talks about a convicted felon
his son is a convicted Fon at a very
high level his son is convicted going to
be convicted probably numerous other
times should have been convicted before
but his Justice apartment let the
statute of limitations lapse on the most
important things but he could be a
convicted felon soon as he gets out of
office Joe could be a convicted fellon
with all of the things that he's done
he's done horrible things all of the
death caused at the the Border uh
telling the Ukrainian people that we're
going to want a billion dollars or you
change the prosecutor otherwise you're
not getting a billion dollars if I ever
said that that's quid proquo that we're
not going to do anything we're not going
to give you a billion dollars unless you
change your prosecutor having to do with
his son this man is a criminal this man
you're lucky you're lucky I did nothing
wrong we'd have a system that was rigged
and disgusting I did nothing wrong thank
you president Trump President Biden you
have said I'm coming right to you sir
you well you want to respond go ahead
I'll give you a minute to respond the
idea that I did anything wrong relative
to what you're talking about is
outrageous it's simply a lie number one
number two the idea that you have a
right to seek retribution against any
American just because your president is
wrong is simply wrong no president's
ever spoken like that before no present
in our history has spoken like that
before number three the crimes that you
are still charged with and think of all
the Civil penalties you have how many
billions of dollars do you owe in civil
penalties for for molesting a woman in
public for doing a whole range of things
of having sex with a porn star on the
night while your wife was pregnant I
mean what what are you talking about you
you have the morals of an
alleycat give you a minute sir I didn't
have sex with a porn star number one
number two that was a case that was
started and moved they moved a
high-ranking official a doj into the
Manhattan DA's office to start that case
that case is going to be appealed in one
we had a very terrible judge a horrible
judge Democrat the prosecutor were all
high ranking Democrats appointed people
and the both the civil and the criminal
he basically went after his political
opponent because he thought it was going
to damage me but when the public found
out out about these cases because they
understand them better than he does he
has no idea what these cases are but
when he when they found out about these
cases you know what they did my poll
numbers went up way up you know that
because you're reporting it and we took
in more money in the last two weeks than
we've ever taken in in the history of of
any campaign I don't think any campaign
has ever taken hundreds of millions of
dollars came pouring in because the
public knows it's a scam and it's a guy
that's after his political opponent
because he can't win fair and square
thank you president Trump president
Biden you have said quote Donald Trump
and his magga Republicans are determined
to destroy American democracy do you
believe that the tens of millions of
Americans who are likely to vote for
president Trump will be voting against
American democracy the more they know
about what he's done yes the more they
know about what he's done and there's a
lot more coming he's got a lot of cases
around the road coming around he's got
he's got a whole range of issues he has
to face I don't know what the juries
will do but I knew and I do know he has
a real problem and so the fact that
could you ever think you hear any
president say that I'm going to seek
retribution you ever hear any president
say that I thought Hitler had some good
ideas what got me involved to run the
first place after my son had died I
decided in Iraq because of Iraq I said I
wasn't going to run again until I saw
what happened in Charlottesville
Virginia people coming out of the woods
carrying swastikas on torches torches
and and singing the same anti-semitic B
they sang when
back in Germany and what did and the
young woman got killed they spoke to the
mother and she they asked him they said
what what do you think of those people
the people who the ones who got killed
the one who tried to stop it and the on
he said I think they're fine people on
both sides what American president would
ever say Nazis coming out of fields
carrying torches singing the same
anti-semitic B carrying swastikas were
fine people this is the guy who says
Hitler's done some good things I like to
know what they are the good things
Hitler's done that's what he said this
guy has no sense of American
democracy president Trump Jake both of
you know that story has been totally
wiped out because when you see the
sentence it said 100% exoneration on
that so he just keeps it going he says
he ran because of Charlottesville he
didn't run because of Charlottesville he
ran because it was his last chance it
he's not equipped to be president you
know it and I know it it's ridiculous we
have a debate we're trying to justify
his presidency his presidency he's
without question the worst president the
worst presidency in the history of our
country we shouldn't be having a debate
about it there's nothing to debate he
made up the Charlottesville story and
you'll see it's debunked all over the
place every anchor has de every
reasonable anchor has debunked it and
just the other day it came out where it
was fully debunked it's a nonsense story
he knows that and he didn't run because
of Charlottesville he used that as an
excuse to run
president bid and debunk it happened all
you have to do is listen to what was
said at the time and the idea that
somehow that's the only reason I ran I
ran because I was worried a guy like
this guy could get elected if he thought
they were good people coming out of that
all that Forest carrying those those
woods carrying those torches that he
didn't deserve to be president didn't
deserve to be president at all and the
idea that he's talking about all this
being fabricated we saw with our own
eyes we saw what happened on January 6th
we saw the people breaking through the
windows we saw people occupying that his
own vice president look there's a reason
why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers
refused to endorse him this time his
vice president hasn't endorsed him this
time so why why they know him well they
serve with him why are they not
endorsing him thank you President Biden
we're going to be right back with more
from the CNN presidential
debate
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welcome back to the CNN presidential
debate live from Georgia let's talk
about persistent challenges you both
faced in your first terms and you'd
certainly face again in a second term
President Biden while black unemployment
dropped to a record low under your
presidency black families still earn far
less less than white families black
mothers are still three times more
likely to die from pregnancy related
causes and black Americans are
imprisoned at five times the rate of
white Americans what do you say to Black
voters who are disappointed that you
haven't made more progress they
acknowledge they made a lot of progress
number one the fact of the matter is
there's more small black businesses that
have been started in any time in history
number two the wages of black their
black unemployment is the lowest level
has been in a long long time number
three we find find providing housing for
black Americans and dealing with the
segregation that exists among these
corporate these corporate rations that
collude to keep people out of their
houses and in addition to that we find
that the impact of on the the choice
that black families have to make
relative to child care is a incredibly
difficult when we did the first major
piece of legislation in the past I was
able to reduce black child care costs I
cut them in half in half we got to make
sure we provide for child care cost we
got to make sure because when you
provide that child care protections you
in increase economic growth because more
people can be in the in the job market
so there's more to be done considerably
more to be done but we've done a great
deal so far and I'm not letting up and
they know it you have 49 seconds left
what do you say to Black voters who are
disappointed with the progress so far I
say I don't blame them for being
disappointed inflation is still hurting
them badly for example I provided for
the idea that any black family firsttime
home buyer should get a $10,000 tax
credit to be able to buy their first
home so they can get started I made sure
that we're in a situation where all
those black families and those black
individuals who provided had to take out
student loans that were ballooning that
if they were engaged in nursing doctor
and any anything having to do with
volunteerism if they paid their bills
for 10 years on their student debt all
the rest is Forgiven after 10 years
Millions have benefited from that and
we're going to do a whole lot more for
black families thank you president Trump
and he caused the inflation he's blaming
inflation and he's right it's been very
bad he caused the inflation and it's
killing black families and Hispanic
families and just about everybody it's
killing people they can't buy groceries
anymore they can't you look at the cost
of food where it's doubled and tripled
and quadrupled they can't live they're
not living anymore he caused this
inflation I gave him a country with no
essentially no inflation it was perfect
it was so good all he had to do is leave
it alone he destroyed it with his green
new scam and all of the other all this
money that's being thrown out the window
he caused inflation as sure as you're
sitting there the fact is that his big
kill on the black people is the millions
of people that he's allowed to come in
through the Border they're taking black
jobs now and it could be 18 it could be
19 and even 20 million people they're
taking black jobs and they're taking
Hispanic jobs and you haven't seen it
yet but you're going to see something
that's going to be the worst in our
history thank you President Biden there
was no inflation when I became president
you know why the economy was flat on its
back 15% unemployment he decimated the
economy absolutely decimated the economy
that's why there was no inflation at the
time there were no jobs we provided
thousands of millions of jobs for
individuals who were in all communities
including minority communities we made
sure that they have health insurance we
have covered if the ACA has incre I made
sure that they're $8,000 per person and
a family to get written off for
healthare but this guy wants to Li that
they tried 50 times he wants to get rid
of the ACA again and they're going to
try again if they win you find ourselves
in a position where the idea that we're
not doing any I put more we put more
police on the street than any
Administration has he wants to cut the
cops we're providing for Equity equity
and making sure people have a shot to
make it there's a lot going on but in
inflation he caused it by his tremendous
amount feas into the the way handle the
pandemic thank you another persistent
challenge is the climate crisis 2023 was
the hottest year in recorded history and
communities across the country are
confronting the devastating effects of
extreme heat intensifying wildfires
stronger hurricanes and rising sea
levels former president Trump you've
vowed to end your opponent's climate
initiatives but will you take any action
as president to slow the climate crisis
well let me just go back to what he said
about the police how close the police
are to him almost every police group in
the nation from every state is
supporting Donald J Trump almost every
police group and what he's done to the
black population is horrible including
the fact that for 10 years he called
them super Predators we can't in the
1990s we can't forget that super
Predators was his name and he called it
to him for 10 and they've taken great
offense at it and now they see it
happening but when they see what I did
for criminal justice form and for the
historically black uh colleges and
universities where I funded them and got
them all funded and the opportunity
zones with with Tim as you know Tim
Scott was incredible he did a great job
great senator from South Carolina he
came to me with the idea and it was a
great idea it's one of the most
successful Economic Development acts
ever in the country opportunity zones
and the biggest beneficiary are blacks
and that's why we have the best numbers
with them in maybe ever they're saying
ever I read this morning whereever the
best numbers he's lost much of the black
population because he's done a horrible
job for black people he's also done a
horrible job for Hispanics but way do
you see these millions of people pouring
into our country and they're going to
take the jobs and it's already started
and you haven't seen anything yet it's a
disaster you've 38 seconds left
president Trump will you take any action
as president to slow the climate crisis
so I want absolutely Immaculate clean
water and I want absolutely clean air
and we had it we had H2O we had the best
numbers ever and we did we were using
all forms of energy all forms everything
and yet during my four years I had the
best environmental numbers ever and my
top environmental people gave me that
statistic just before I walked on the
stage
actually I don't know where the hell
he's been
the idea that a he said is true I've
passed the most extensive most extensive
climate change legislation in history in
history we find ourselves and by the way
black colleges I I came up with $50
billion for HBCU historic black
universities and colleges because they
don't have they don't have the kind of
contributors that they have to build
these Laboratories and the like any
black student is capable in College of
doing what any white student can do they
just have the money but now they'll be
able to get those jobs in high-tech
we're in a situation where the idea that
he is claiming to have done something
that had the cleanest water the cleanest
water he hadn't done a damn thing in the
environment he pulled out of the Paris
peace Accord climate Accord I
immediately joined it because if we re H
1.5 degrees C at anyone point where
there's no way back the only existential
threat to humanity is climate change and
he didn't do a dam Dam thing about it he
must undo all that I've
done the Paris Accord was going to cost
us a trillion dollars and China nothing
and Russia nothing and India nothing it
was a ripoff of the United States and I
ended it because I didn't want to waste
that money because they treated us
horribly we were the only ones it was
costing us money nobody else was paying
into it and it was a it was a disaster
but everything that he said just now
I'll give you an example I heard him say
before insulin I'm the one that got the
insulin down for the seniors I took care
of the seniors what he's doing is
destroying all of our medical programs
because the migrants coming in they want
everybody and look I have the I have the
biggest heart on the stage I guarantee
you that and I want to take care of
people but we're destroying our country
they're taking over our schools our
hospitals and they're going to be taking
over Social Security he is destroying
Social Security Medicare and
Medicaid the idea is that we in fact
fact we were the only ones of
consequence who were not who were not
members of of the Paris Accord how can
we do anything we've not able the United
States can't get his under control one
of the largest polluters in the world
number one we're making significant
progress by 2035 we will have cut
pollution in half we have made we've
made significant progress and we're
continue to make progress we set up a
climate Corp where thousands of young
people will learn how to deal with clim
just like the people core and we're
going to we're moving in directions that
are going to significantly change the
elements of cause of pollution but the
idea that he claims that he has the
biggest heart up here and he's really
concerned about about pollution and
about climate I've not seen any
indication of that and by the way with
regard to prescription drugs one company
agreed that they would reduce the price
to $35 which I was calling for one
voluntarily I made sure every company in
the world every pharmaceutical company
cannot have to pay and by the
way so every day millions of Americans
struggle just to make ends meet for many
older Americans Social Security provides
a critical Lifeline President Biden if
nothing is done to Social Security
seniors will see their benefits cut in
just over 10 years will you name tonight
one specific step that you're willing to
take to keep Social Security solvent yes
make the very wealth they began to pay
their fair share right now everybody
making under $170,000 pays 6% of their
income of their paycheck every single
time they get a paycheck from the time
the first one they get when they're 18
years old the idea that they're gon to
I'm not I been proposing that everybody
they pay the millionaires pay 1% 1% so
no one after I would not raise the cost
of social security for anybody under
$400,000 after that I began the make the
wealthy begin to pay their fair share by
increasing from 1% Beyond to be able to
guarantee the program for life so you
still have 82 seconds left are there any
other measures that you think that would
be able to help keep Social Security
solvent or is just is that one enough
well no that that one enough will keep
it solvent but the biggest thing I'll do
if we defeat this man because he wants
to get rid of Social Security he thinks
there's plenty to cut in Social Security
he's wanted to cut Social Security and
Medicare both times and that's what and
if look at the the program put forward
by the house Republican caucus that he I
believe supports is in fact want to cut
it as well the idea that we don't need
to protect our seniors is ridiculous we
put we and by the way American public
has greater Health Care coverage today
than ever before and under the ACA as I
said you're in a circumstance where
400,000 people 4 I mean 40 million
people would not have insurance because
they have a pre-existing condition only
allows them to have that insurance is
the fact that they in fact are part of
the ACA and by the way the other thing
is we're in a situation where I talk
about education for black communities
I've raised the number the amount of
money for pel Grants another $8,000 so
anybody making under $70,000 a year
going to be able to get $115,000 toward
the tuition it's he he just doesn't know
what he's talking about thank you
President Biden president Trump so I've
dealt with
politicians all my life I've been on
this side of the equation for the last
eight years uh I've never seen anybody
lie like this guy he lies I've never
seen it he could look you in the face so
about so many other things too and we
mentioned the laptop we mentioned Russia
Russia Russia Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine
everything he does is a lie it's
misinformation and
disinformation uh the losers and sucker
story that he made up is a total lie on
the military it's a disgrace but Social
Security he's destroying it because
millions of people are pouring into our
country and they're putting them on
Social Security they're putting them on
Medicare Medicaid they're putting them
in our hospitals they're taking the
place of our citizens they're what
they're doing to the VA to our veterans
is unbelievable our veterans are living
in the street and these people are
living in luxury hotels he doesn't know
what he's doing and it it's really
coming back I've never seen such anger
in our country before
President Biden the idea veterans are
not being taken care of I told you
before and by the way when I said
suckers and losers he said he
acknowledged after that he fired that
General that General got fired because
he's the one that acknowledged that
that's what he said he was the one
standing with Trump when he said it
number one number two the idea that
we're going to be in a situation where
all these millions and millions of way
he talks about it illegal aliens are
coming into the country and taking away
our jobs there's a reason why we have
the fastest growing economy in the world
the reason why we have the most
successful economy in the world we're
doing better than any other nation in
the world and by the way those 15 Nobel
laats he talked about being phony those
15 Nobel laats economists they all said
that if Trump is reelected we're likely
to have a recession and and inflation is
going to increasing and go up and by the
way worst president in history 159
presidential Scholars voted him the
worst president in the history United
States of America President Biden thank
you so much let's turn to the cost of
child care which many American families
struggle to afford president Trump both
you and President Biden have tried to
address this issue but the average cost
of child care in this country has risen
to more than $1,000 a year per child for
many families the cost of child care for
two children is more than their rent in
your second term what would you do to
make child care more
affordable just to go back the general
got fired because he was no good and if
he said that that's why he made it up
but we have 19 people that said I didn't
say it and they're very highly respected
much more so than him the other thing is
he doesn't fire people he never fired
people I've never seen him fire anybody
I did fire a lot I fired Comey because
he was no good I fired a lot of the top
people at the FBI drained the swamp they
were no good not easier to fire people
you'd pay a price for it but they were
no good I inherited these people I
didn't put them there I didn't put Comey
there he was no good I fired him this
guy hasn't fired anybody he never fires
he should have fired every military man
that was involved with that Afghan the
Afghanistan uh horror show the most
embarrassing moment in the history of
our country he didn't fire did you fire
anybody did you fire anybody that's on
the border that's allowed us to have the
worst Border in the history of the world
did anybody get fired for allowing 18
million people many from prisons many
from from mental institutions did you
fire anybody that allowed our country to
be destroyed Joe our country is being
destroyed as you and I sit up here and
waste a lot of time on this debate this
shouldn't be a debate he is the worst
president he just said it about me
because I said it uh but look he's the
worst president in the history of our
country he's destroyed our country now
all of a sudden he's trying to get a
little tough on the border he come out
came out with a a nothing a nothing deal
and it reduced it a little bit a little
bit like this much it's insignificant he
wants open borders he wants wants our
country to either be destroyed or he
wants to pick up those people as voters
and I don't think we just can't let it
happen if he wins this election our
country doesn't have a chance not even a
chance of coming out of this rut we
probably won't have a country left
anymore that's how bad it is he is the
worst in history by far thank you
president Trump President Biden we are
the most admired country in the world we
the United States of America there's
nothing beyond our capacity we have the
finest military in the history of the
world the finest in the history of the
world no one thinks we're weak no one
wants to screw around with us nobody
number one number two the idea that
we're talking about worst Presidents I
wasn't joking look it up go online 159
or 58 don't H me the exact number
presidential historians they had
meetings and they voted who was the
worst president in American history one
through best to worst they said he was
the worst in all of American History
that's a fact that's not that's not
conjecture he can argue they're wrong
but that's what they voted the idea that
he is knowing doing anything to deal
with child care he did very for
virtually nothing to child care we
should significantly increase the child
care tax credit we should significantly
increase the availability of women and
men or single parents to be able to go
back to work and we should encourage
businesses to hold to have thank you
president bid president Trump the
question was about what would you do to
make child care more affordable if you
want to take your minute just so you
understand we have polling we have other
things that do they rate him the worst
because what he's done is so bad and
they rape me I'll show you I will show
you and they rape me one of the best
okay and if I'm given another four years
I will be the best I think I'll be the
best nobody's ever created an economy
like us nobody ever cut taxes like us
he's the only one I know he wants to
raise your taxes by four times he wants
to raise everybody's taxes by four times
he wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so
everybody including the two of you are
going to pay four to five times nobody
ever heard of this before all my life
I'd grow up and I'd see politicians
talking about cutting taxes when we cut
taxes as I said we did more business
apple and all these companies they were
bringing money back into our country the
worst president in history by far and
everybody knows it President Biden look
the fact of the matter is that he's dead
wrong about he's increased the T he's
increased he will increase the uh taxes
on middle class people I said i' never
raise a tax upon anybody making less
than $400,000 I didn't but this tariff
is 10% tariffs everything coming in the
country you know what the economists say
that's going to cost the average
American
$2,500 a year more because they're going
to have to pay the difference in food
and all the things that were important
number two he's in a situation where he
told talks about how he has not raised
he he's he somehow helped the middle
class middle class has been devastated
by you now you want a new tax cut of5
trillion do over the next 10 years which
is going to fundamentally bankrupt the
country you had the largest deficit of
any president American history number
one number two you have not in fact made
any contact any any any progress with
China we are the lowest trade deficit
with China since 2010 thank you
president thank you president bu let's
int let's discuss an epidemic impacting
millions of Americans that both of you
have made a top priority in your first
term the opioid crisis and for both of
you uh the number of Overdose deaths in
this country has gone up under your term
it went up under your term it has gone
up former president Trump despite the
efforts that both of you have made more
than 100,000 Americans are dying from
overdoses every year primarily from
Fentanyl and other opioids what will you
do to help Americans right now in the
throws of addiction who are struggling
to get the treatment they need to finish
up we now have the largest deficit in
the history of our country under this
guy we have the largest deficit with
China he gets paid by China he's a
Manchurian Candidate he gets money from
China we have so I think he's afraid to
deal with them or something but do you
notice he never took out my tariffs
because we bring in so much money with
the tariffs that I imposed on China he
never took them away he can't because
it's too much money it's tremendous and
we saved our Steel Industries and there
was more to come but he hasn't done that
but he hasn't cut the tariffs because he
can't because it's too much money but
he's got the largest deficit in the
history of our of our country and he's
got the worst the worst situation with
China China is going to own us if you
keep allowing them to do what they're
doing to us as a country they are
killing us as a Country Joe and you
can't let that happen you're destroying
our country so president Trump you 67
seconds left the question was what are
you going to do to help Americans in the
throws of addiction right now who are
struggling to get the treatment they
need Jake we were doing very well at
addiction until the covid came along we
had the two and a half almost three
years of like nobody's ever had before
any country in every way and then we had
to get tough and it was the drugs
pouring across the border were it
started to increase we got great
equipment we bought the certain dog
that's the most incredible thing that
you've ever seen the way they can spot
it we did a lot and we had we were
getting very low numbers very very low
numbers then he came along the numbers
have you seen the numbers now it's not
only the 18 million people that I
believe is even low because they the
Goda ways they don't even talk about
Goda ways but the numbers of the amount
of drugs and human trafficking in women
coming across our border the worst thing
I've ever seen at numbers that nobody's
ever seen under him because the border
is so bad
but the the number of drugs coming
across our border now is is the largest
we've ever had by far president Trump
thank you President Biden Fentanyl and
the byproducts fentanyl went down for a
while and I wanted to make sure we use
the Machinery that can detect fentanyl
these big machines that roll over
everything it comes across the border
and it costs a lot of money that was
part of this deal we put together this
bipartisan deal more fentanyl machines
more more be able to detect drugs more
more numbers of
of Agents more numbers of all the people
at the border and when we had that deal
done he went he called his Republican
colleague said don't do it it's going to
hurt me politically he never argued it's
not a good bill it's a really good bill
we need those machines we need those
machines and we're coming down very hard
in every country in Asia in terms of
precursors for Fentanyl and Mexico is
working with us to make sure they don't
have the technology to be able to put it
together that's what we have to do we
need those machines thank you President
Biden president Trump and again the
question is about Americans in the
throws of addiction right now struggling
to get the treatment they need well this
because this does pertain it to it he
ended remain in Mexico he ended Catch
and Release I made it catch and release
in Mexico not catch and release Here we
had so many things that we had done hard
negotiations with Mexico and I got it
all for nothing it's just like when you
have a hostage we always pay $6 billion
do for a host every time we say there a
hostage
now we have a hostage The Wall Street
Journal reporter I think a good guy and
he's over there because Putin is
laughing at this guy probably asking for
billions of dollars for the reporter I
will have him out very quickly as soon
as I take office before I take office I
said by literally as soon as I win the
election I will have that reporter out
he should have had him out a long time
ago but Putin's probably asking for
billions and billions of dollars because
this guy it every time we had two cases
we paid $6 billion for five people I got
58 people out and I paid essentially
nothing thank you president Trump Dana
let's turn to concerns that voters have
about each of you President Biden you
would be 86 at the end of your second
term how do you address concerns about
your capability to handle the toughest
job in the world well into your
80s well first of all I spent half my
care being being criticized being the
youngest person in politics I was the
second youngest person ever elected the
United States Senate and now I'm the
oldest this guy's three years younger
and a lot less competent I think that
just look at the record look at what
I've done look how I've turned around
the horrible situation he left me as I
said 15 million new jobs 800,000
manufacturing jobs more investment in
America over millions billions of
dollars in private investment in in
Enterprises that we are growing we by
the way we brought a a lot of
people the whole idea of computer chips
we used have 40% of the market we
invented those chips and we lost it
because he was sending people to cheap
to find the cheapest jobs overseas and
bring home a product so I went I went to
South Korea I convinced Samsung to
invest billions of dollars here in the
United States and they're guess what
those Fabs they call to to to to build
these chips those Fabs pay over $100,000
you don't need a college degree for them
and there's billions about $40 billion
already being invested and being built
right now in the United States creating
significant jobs for Americans all over
the from all over the world President
Biden you have 40 seconds left would you
like to add anything yeah I would the
idea that somehow we are this failing
country I never heard a president talk
like this before we we're the NB of the
world I name me a single major major
country president who wouldn't trade
places with the United States of America
for all our problems and all our
opportunities we're the most Progressive
country in the world and getting things
done we're the strongest country in the
world we're a country in the world who
keeps our word and everybody trusts us
all of our allies and our and our op and
our those who he cuddles up to from Kim
jung-yong he sends Love Letters to and
Putin Etc they don't want to screw
around with us thank you former
president Trump to follow up you would
be 82 at the end of your second term
what do you say to voters who have
concerns about your capabilities to
serve well I took two tests cognitive
tests I aced him both of them as you
know we made it public he took none I'd
like to see him take one just one a real
easy one like go through the first five
questions he couldn't do it but I took
two cognitive tests I took physical
exams every year and you know we knock
on wood wherever we may have wood that
I'm in very good health I just won two
Club champ I ships not even senior two
regular Club championships to do that
you have to be quite smart and you have
to be able to hit the ball a long way
and I do it he doesn't do it he can't
hit a ball 50 yards he challenged me to
a golf match he can't hit a ball 50
yards uh I think I'm in very good shape
I feel that I'm as in good a shape as I
was 25 30 years ago actually I'm
probably a little bit lighter but I'm in
as good a shape as I was uh years ago I
feel very good I feel the same but I
took I was willing to take a cognitive
test and you know what if I didn't do
well I aced him Dr Ronnie Jackson who's
great guy when he was White House doctor
and then I took another one a similar
one and both one of them said they've
never seen anybody Ace him thank you
President Biden you can see he is 6'5
and only 223 PB or 235
PBS well you said 64 200 well anyway
that's your anyway just take a look at
what he says he is and take a look at
what he is look I be be happy to have a
driving contest with him the re I got my
handicap which when I was vice president
down to a
six and but by the way I told you before
I'm happy to play golf if you carry your
own bag think you can do it that's the
biggest lie that he's a six- handicap of
all I was an eight handicap yeah
eight but I have you know how many I've
seen you swing I know you swing not act
like children president Trump we're
going to let's not act like
a specific concern that voters have
about you will you pledge tonight that
once all legal challenges have been
exhausted that you will accept the
results of this election regardless of
who wins and you will say right now that
political violence in any form is
unacceptable well I shouldn't have to
say that but of course I believe that
it's totally unacceptable and if you
would see my statements that I made on
Twitter at the time and also my
statement that I made in the Rose guard
you would say it's one of the strongest
statements you've ever seen in addition
to the speech I made in front of I
believe the largest crowd I've ever
spoken to and I will tell you nobody
ever talks about that they talk about a
relatively small number of people that
went to the capital and in many cases
were ushered in by the police and as
Nancy Pelosi said it was her
responsibility not mine she said that
loud and clear but the answer is uh if
the election is fair free and I want
that more than anybody and I'll tell you
something
I wish he was a great president because
I wouldn't be here right now I'd be at
one of my many places enjoying myself I
wouldn't be under indictment because I
wouldn't have been his political appoint
you know opponent because he indicted me
because I was his opponent I wish he was
a great president I would rather have
that I wouldn't be here I don't mind
being here but the only reason I'm here
is he's so bad as a president that I'm
going to make America great again we're
failing Nation right now we're a
seriously failing nation and we're a
failing Nation because of him his
policies are so bad uh his military
policies are insane they're insane these
are Wars that will never end with him he
will drive us into World War III and
we're closer to World War II than
anybody can imagine we are very very
close to World War II and he's driving
us there and Kim Jong-un and presiden of
China Kim Jong-un of North Kore
all of these Putin they don't respect
him they don't fear Him they have
nothing going with this gentleman and
he's going to drive us into World War
II you want a World War I let him follow
and win and let Putin say do what you
want NATO just do what you want there's
a thing called Article Five an attack on
one is Attack on all and required
response the idea the idea I can't think
of a single major leader in the world
who wouldn't trade places with with job
I've done and what they've done because
we are a powerful Nation we have
wonderful PE because of the people not
me it's because of the American people
they're capable of anything and they
step up when they're needed and right
now we're needed we're needed to protect
the world because our own safety is at
stake and again you want to have a war
just let Putin go ahead and take keeve
make sure they move on see what happens
in Poland Hungary and other places along
that border then you have a war
president Trump as I come back to you
for a followup the question was will you
accept the results of this election
regardless of who wins just to finish
what he said if I might uh Russia they
took a lot of land from Bush they took a
lot of land from Obama and Biden they
took no land nothing from Trump nothing
he knew not to do it he's not going to
play games with me he knew that I got
along with him very well but he knew not
to play games he took nothing from
me but now he's going to take the whole
thing from this man right here that's a
war that should have never started it
would have never started ever with me
and he's going to take Ukraine and you
know you asked me a question before
would you do this would he's got us in
such a bad position right now with with
Ukraine and Russia because Ukraine's not
winning that war he said I will never
settle until such time they're running
out of people they're running out of
soldiers they've lost so many people
people it's so sad they've lost so many
people and they've lost those gorgeous
cities with the golden domes that are a
thousand years old all because of him
and stupid decisions Russia would have
never attacked if I presid the question
was will you accept the results of the
election regardless of who wins yes or
no please if it's a fair and legal and
good election absolutely I would have
much rather accepted these but the the
fraud and everything else was ridiculous
and if you want we'll have a news
conference on it in a week or we'll have
another one of these on in a week but I
will absolutely there's nothing I'd
rather do it would be much easier for me
to do that then I'm running again I
wasn't really going to run until I saw
the horrible job he did he's destroying
our country I would be very happy to be
someplace else in a nice location
someplace and again no indictments no
political opponent stuff because it's
the only way he thinks he can win but
unfortunately it's driven up by numbers
and driven up up to a very high level
because the people understand it let's
see what your numbers are when this
election is over let's see let's see
you're a whiner when you lost the first
time you you continued you appealed and
appealed to courts all across the
country not one single Court in America
said any of your claims had any Merit
state or local none but you continue to
provoke
this lie about somehow there's all this
misrepresentation all this stealing
there is no evidence of that at all and
I tell you what I doubt whether you'll
accept it because you're such a whiner
the idea if you lose again you accepted
anything you can't stand the loss
something snapped in you in your loss
the last
time we'll be right back with more from
the CNN presidential debate live from
Georgia
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it is now time for the candidates to
deliver their closing statements as
predetermined by a coin toss we're going
to begin with you President Biden you
have two
minutes we've made significant progress
from the debacle that was left by
President Trump and in in his last term
we find ourselves in a situation where
number one we have to make sure that we
have a fair tax system I ask anyone out
there in the audience or anyone out
watching this debate do you think the
tax system is fair the fact is that I
said nobody even making under $400,000
had a single penny increase in their
taxes and will not and if I'm reelected
that'll be the case again but this guy
is has increased your taxes because of
the deficit number one he's increased
inflation because of the debacle he left
after the way he handled the pandemic
and he finds himself in a position where
he now wants to tax you more by putting
a 10% tariff on everything that comes
into the United States of America what I
did when for example he wants to get
away with get rid of the ability of
Medicare to for the ability to for the
US to be able to negotiate drug pra with
the big farmer companies well guess what
we got it we got it down to 15 excuse me
$35 for insulin instead of $400 no more
than $2,000 for every senior no matter
what they how much prescription they
need you know what that did that reduced
the federal Deb debt by $160 billion do
over 10 years because the government
doesn't have to pay the exorbitant
prices I'm going to make that available
to every senior all all along it's
happening now and everybody in America
he wants to get rid of that we have I'm
going to make sure that we have child
care we we're going to significantly
increase the credit people have for
child care I'm going to make sure we do
something about what we're doing on lead
pipes and all the things that are
causing health problems for people
across the country we're going to
continue to fight to bring down
inflation and give people a break thank
you President Biden president Trump you
now have two minutes for your closing
statement like so many politicians this
man is just a complainer he said we want
to do this we want to do that we want to
get rid of this tax that tax but he
doesn't do any think he doesn't do all
he does is make our country unsafe by
allowing millions and millions of people
to pour in our military doesn't respect
him we looked like fools in Afghanistan
uh we didn't stop Israel it was such a
horrible thing that would have never
happened it should have never happened
Iran was broke anybody that did business
with Iran including China they couldn't
do business with the United States they
all passed Iran was broke they had no
money for Hamas or Hezbollah for Terror
no money whatsoever again Ukraine should
have never happened he talks about all
this stuff but he didn't do it for three
and a half years we're living in hell we
have the Palestinians and we have
everybody else rioting all over the
place you talk about Charlottesville
this is a 100 times Charlottesville a
thousand times the whole country is
exploding because of you because they
don't respect you and they have to
respect their president and they don't
respect you throughout the world what we
did was incredible we re rebuilt the
military we got the largest tax cut in
history the largest regulation cut in
history the reason he's got jobs is
because I cut the regulations that gave
jobs but he's putting a lot of those
regulations back on all of the things
that we've done nobody's ever never seen
anything like even from a medical
standpoint right to try where we can try
Space Age materials instead of going to
Asia or going to Europe and trying to
get when you're terminally ill now you
can go and you can get something you
sign a document they've been trying to
get it for 42 years but you know what we
did for the military was incredible
choice for our soldiers where our
soldiers instead of waiting for 3 months
to see a doctor can go out and get
themselves fixed up and Reed up and take
care of themselves and they're living
and that's why I had the highest
approval rating in the history of the VA
so all of these things we're in a
failing Nation but it's not going to be
failing anymore we're going to make it
great again thank you former president
Trump President Biden