Howdy folks, kirk and Jason here with Kirk Giordano Plastering.
today I'm gonna show you guys is a color coat on a color coat wall and actually what we're
doing is not going to be successful nobody can do what we're asked to do a while back we came
here we did us scratching a brown and we match the finish then the fella who hired me sick Kurt can
you do a color coat and tie this in and match it and I said no not only can we not do it there is
nobody who can do that the proper way to do it is to color coat this area and then color coat
the entire wall corner to corner you cannot do a color coat within a color coat and expected
to match it doesn't work that way how do I know because I have 30 plus years and I've tried it
and even if I would have came and I did this color coat yesterday which is La Habra oatmeal even if I
would have came and I did this color coat and they did this the next day and I came the following day
I still could not tie into this color coat the color coat is about five years old and I'll show
you something about a color coat when you wet it it darkens so okay this is oatmeal but you see
when you wet it how darken gets and by the way guys if you paint it to try to match the color
that's what happens when water hits paint and a cement tshis maintenance-free color coat that's
the painted surface this is the color coat la habra and let me show you a couple more things
before we try to do the impossible here here's what we use guys we mixed up la habra and the
contractor provided us with the color now I told him over here on the ceiling what we can do is we
can go corner to corner to corner and we can tie this in last thing I want to show you is he says
well gee ker it doesn't have to be perfect and I said well good thing because we can't
do it perfect nor can anybody else if it could be done I'd be able to do it he says well what about
this patch here it looks like crap can you see that wall right there where it was a pretty bad
patch right dead center and I said that patch was done and this one on the bottom the same
day they did the color coat they had scaffold here and they had different guys on the same
day and that sometimes happens when you're not sure what the heck you're doing but what we're
trying to do I told him here's what we'll have to do well feather it in we'll tie it in then we'll
come back another day to do the whole wall because that's the way to do it and he says we'll give it
your best shot I tell them it doesn't matter my best shot will be close but my tie-in when I go
to float it into the existing will show no matter what so we're gonna we're gonna show you guys how
we spread this out and then the next day we're gonna come back or a week later and show you what
the results were from our achievement and by the way guys the contractor said Kirk what do I need
to do and I said paint the wall with well Crete and diluted that's the most blue I ever seen what
happens is it spider checks when you go over it to concentrate that's for concrete over concrete
for stucco over a painted finish you don't go that deeper rich otherwise its spider cracks and
to make it even more complicated we're trying not to get a ghosting effect that was porous this was
porous over a painted surface so I had him seal it but his guys got a little gung-ho they they
sealed it ten times darker than it needs to be so anyway what we're gonna do is we're gonna wet the
tie in because here's our joint our new joint of the existing mud has got to float into the
existing color and it has to be wet as is tomorrow when we come to show you the results you're gonna
see the color code difference they're going to be three to five shades different from this texture
here because what we're trying to do cannot be done but this is part of a more complex system
when you do the whole wall anyway I'm gonna go ahead and hit that top piece and then we'll show
you what we're doing up there okay guys we're at a stage where here's our blue right to here
we went over by foot still not gonna match this color but we're gonna give it our we're gonna
give it the preliminary stuff we do prior to coming back for another stage the idea is to
feather it into here feather it into the existing and you guys probably say man it looks close it
is close but it's simply gonna be so far away from actual color that homeowners I'm not gonna
accept it but again they know what to what to expect as far as this is the beginning stages
of redoing the whole front can you just redo the whole front over this on a small wall you can and
the contractor says hey Kirk you know I redid a wall like that once you go ahead and spread that
out doleful contractor said I I redid a wall once and it came out perfect and I said you must have
used the color crystal why didn't you well how do you know that and I said crystal white is the only
color on that chart that you blended it right here and it'll match oatmeal doesn't it's close and
you see again what happens when you get a painted surface so they got a lot of things going on here
anyway when we get toward the bottom I'll show you a little bit more all right guys we've tied
in over a foot here and to the naked eye it looks like wow that's a perfect match it's not I've been
doing this too many years guys you're gonna see such a distinct color differential but tomorrow
the next thing not today anyway ah I'm gonna get back to what I'm doing spit in my wheels but again
you got to look at this as a treatment within a treatment for the overall finish it still has to
be done otherwise we would get some serious ghosting effect all right guys this makes a
good example on the same video now that we've got this little interior done now we're going to go
corner to corner it doesn't necessarily have to be completely dry and the idea is when we come back
the next day to show you how foolish that's gonna look well show you this also and that's the proper
way to do it you load it first then go over the entire surface again with another coat okay guys
I'm gonna go ahead and finish floating the rest of the ceiling here and there is a chance that
they might say Kirk compared to the last guys you guys did really great it's accepted even with the
color flaws on there this one's gonna be perfect so you may not see the end result of this in which
case I thank you for watching this my name is Kirk and as usual we'll see you guys on the next one
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