BRIAN: IF YOU COULD DANCE,
STANDING AT’8", 270 POUNDS.
HE HAD A TON OF JOBS,
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER.
KILLER DANCE MOVES.
PERFORMER ON AND OFF THE SCREEN.
BUT WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW IS HIS
TUMULTUOUS UPBRINGING THAT
BROUGHT HIM HERE.
HE ROSE ABOVE THE CHALLENGES TO
BECOME A SUCCESS.
JOINING US, THE BEST SELLING
AUTHOR HIMSELF.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
CONGRATULATIONS.
>> YOU ACTUALLY PAID FOR
FOOTAGE.
THAT’S WWE FOOTAGE.
THANK YOU, MAN.
BRIAN: YOU WERE FIGHTING FROM
DAY ONE AND STICKING UP FOR YOUR
MOM LITERALLY.
>> IT WAS A LOT TOUGHER THAN I
THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WRITING A
BOOK.
EVERYONE SHOULD WRITE ONE EVEN
IF YOU NEVER PUBLIC LISHT.
IT’S THERAPY.
YOU RELIVE MOMENTS AND LOOK BACK
AT THEM AND KIND OF GET AT PEACE
WITH IT.
A LOT OF THINGS I IGNORED AND A
LOT OF THINGS I DIDN’T PUT IN
THE BOOK I HAD TO DEAL WITH.
BRIAN: IN THE BUICK SAID I DID
THIS WRONG AND I CAME BACK.
WHETHER IT WAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER
LEAVING A TEAM OR GETTING FIRED.
YOU TALK ABOUT COMING BACK AND
PERSEVERING.
YOU SAID BLACK PEOPLE HAVE THE
MENTALITY YOU AREN’T BLACK
ENOUGH AND PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
GROWING UP WITH A BIRACIAL
BACKGROUND.
AND WHITE PEOPLE HAVE THE
MENTALITY THAT YOU DON’T BELONG
HERE.
IT GAVE MEET ABILITY TO ACCEPT
ANYONE THE WAY THEY WERE BASE
NEVER IDENTIFIED WITH A
PARTICULAR GROUP.
AND I KEPT THINGS SHORT, SWEET,
FUN AND TRIBAL.
>> PEOPLE WANT TO PUT THINGS IN
A BOX.
FOR ME, I WAS LIGHT KINKED.
IF SOMEBODY DARKER THAN ME HAD
AN ISSUE THEY WOULD BRING UP THE
COLOR OF MY SKIN.
IF I WAS IN A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SOMEBODY DIDN’T LIKE ME THEY
WOULD BRING UP THE DARKNESS OF
MY SKIN.
IF YOU TRY TO MAKE IT FROM ONE
SIDE, YOU WILL GET FROM BOTH
SIDES.
IT’S TBHOOT THEY SAY TOY, IT’S
HOW YOU MOVE ON THAT DEFINES
YOU.
BRIAN: YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR WHITE
GRANDFATHER DIDN’T WANT HIS
BLACK GRANDCHILDREN LIVING WITH
HIM.
AND YOUR FATHER TRIED TO KILL
YOU AND TRIED TO KILL YOUR MOM.
YOU SAID THANK YOU TO YOUR DAD.
THANK YOU FOR NOT BEING THERE.
IF I WERE, THIN WOULD BE JUST
LIKE YOU.
IT TOOK SOME FAILURES AND BROKEN
HEARTS, IT TOOK DOUBT, ANGER AND
IT TOOK FORGIVING MYSELF AND
ULTIMATELY FORGIVING YOU.
>> FOR SOME REASON YOU SEE A LOT
OF IT IN ATHLETICS.
BUT THEY CARRY THAT FLAME.
THEY WILL PLAY THAT GAME AND YOU
WILL SEE A MOMENT WHERE THEY
WILL LOOK IN THE SAND.
AND YOU WILL SEE A PLAYER’S
FAMILY TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE
THAT LOOK.
THEN ONE DAY YOU HAVE YOUR OWN
KIDS WHERE YOU REALIZE, I’M GLAD
HE WASN’T THERE.
I WOULD HAVE ENDED UP JUST LIKE
HIM OR HAD SOME OF HIS HABITS.
BRIAN: YOU WERE A SECURITY
GUARD, A FOOTBALL PLAYER, A
COACH, A TEACHER, AND NOW YOU
ARE HERE.
WHO IS THE MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR
TYRUS BEING THE MOST COVETED FOX
NEWS CONTRIBUTOR IN FOX NEWS
HISTORY.
>> WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?
I WOULD LIKE TO THINK I HAD SOME
KIND OF HAND IN THAT.
I DON’T KNOW.
BRIAN: GREG GUTFELD.
HE’S SO JEALOUS EVERY TIME YOU
TALK TO ANYONE.
GREG: HE’S MY CO-HOST, YOU CAN’T
HAVE IT.
>> IT WASN’T ON RED EYE, IT WAS
GREG GUTFELD.
>> IT WAS RED EYE AND WHEN YOU
SWITCHED.
I TRAVELED.
BRIAN: WHAT HAPPENED?
>> YOU TWEETED THAT YOU LIKED
SOMETHING.
THEN YOU SAID, HEY, WHO IS THIS?
I GO AND I GO IN YouTube,
AND I GO, THIS IS VERY
INTERESTING.
I DM’D YOU.
HE SAID WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON
THE SHOW, I THOUGHT, YEAH,
RIGHT.
AT THAT TIME I WAS WORKING WITH
IMPACT AT THE TIME, INDEPENDENT
WRESTLING TEAM, YOU GET A LOT OF
WEIRD REQUESTS.
YOU GET A LOT OF GUYS WHO SAY HEY, WHY DON’T YOU COME DOWN TO
HEY, WHY DON’T YOU COME DOWN TO
MY ATTIC AND BEAT ME UP.
SO --
>> THAT’S WHY HE’S OFF TWITTER
NOW.
BRIAN: WHAT WAS IT ABOUT HIM
THAT YOU KNEW THERE WAS
SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE?
GREG: ANYBODY WHO CAN TAKE A
CONVERSATION OR TOPIC AND SAY
SOMETHING YOU HAVEN’T HEARD
BEFORE, THAT’S HOW I GOT MY JOB
HERE.
BUT HE’S AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER
SHOOTING AN ANGLE THAT EVERYBODY
IN THE ROOM GOES, HUH.
THE SAME THING KRAUTHAMMER COULD
DO.
THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE AROUND THE
TABLE, AND WHEN KRAUTHAMMER
STARTS TALKING, YOU GO LIKE
THIS.
HMM.
THAT’S WHAT IT’S LIEKS LIKE WHEN
TYRUS TALKS.
KRAUTHAMMER COULD DO IT, TYRUS
CAN DO IT.
SOMETIMES I CAN DO IT.
BRIAN: WHEN YOU READ HIS BOOK,
DID YOU KNOW THE TYPE OF
UPBRINGING HE HAD?
>> I KNEW PARTS OF IT.
BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT
WERE SHOCKING TO ME THAT I
DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT.
IT WAS AMAZING THAT HE WROTE
ABOUT IT.
AND SO FUNNY THINGS IN THERE.
BUT I HAD THREE OLDER SISTERS,
SO HE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GUYS
DATING HIS MOTHER, I’ COULDN’T
UNDERSTAND THAT KIND OF THING.
THERE ARE GOOD EGGS AND BAD
EGGS.
WHEN THEY ARE IN YOUR HOUSE THEY
ARE ROTTEN EGGS.
>> I KNEW GUTFELD READ THE BOOK.
WHEN HE LIKES SOMETHING, I WILL
GET A TEXT.
HE SAID I HAD A CRAIG, TOO.
HE’S UNDER PLAYING HIMSELF
SOMETIMES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPED ME
WAS BEING UNDER THE TREE OF
SOMEONE LIKE GREG.
IT NEVER KNOW WHERE GREG IS
COMING FROM.
YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE,
WHAT STARTS OUT AS A COMPLIMENT
END MORABLY.
BRIAN: I NEVER GET A COMPLIMENT.
GREG IS RESENTFUL.
GREG: I AM RESENTFUL, BUT AT
LEAST I’M HONEST ABOUT IT.
I NEVER HAD A NUMBER ONE AT
AMAZON.
HE DID.
AND MINE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN
YOURS.
>> HE WROTE ABOUT EVERYBODY BUT
HIMSELF.