- Spider-Man no more?
Is he really dead to Disney and
the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
Ah August.
It's the end of summer,
pre-season football is in full swing.
It's time to head back to school
and apparently it's also flash point for any
and all entertainment news.
Seriously, 'The Matrix 4' and the Spider-Man divorce
on the same day?
All right, well we know what you want,
so let's swing right into the web news
that's being spun all around us.
Spider-Man
- [Man] Can Spider-Man come out to play?
- What the hell is going on?
You pretty much have to be a scientist
to figure out all the ups and downs.
- [Norman Osborn] You know I'm something of a
scientist myself.
- Are Peter Parker and company really leaving the
Marvel Cinematic Universe?
Who will be spearheading Spider-Man 3 for Sony and
has Tom Holland spoiled anything yet?
Well take a deep breath.
We're here to guide you through it.
We know that with great power comes great responsibility
and we feel it's our responsibility to break down
the full timeline of events and what this could all
mean for the future of Spider-Man,
in or out of the MCU.
- [Green Goblin] Are you in? Or are you out?
- In an exclusive over at Deadline,
it was revealed that talks between Sony and Disney
broke down over the future of the web slinger
and his big screen fate.
According to the piece, Marvel Studios president,
Kevin Feige and the rest of the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
will not be involved in the future of Spider-Man with Sony.
The initial report basically outlined that the fallout
happened over negotiations.
Per Deadline, Disney wanted a 50/50 co-financing split
on the future Spider-Man films,
up from 5% which was the original deal with Sony.
Basically, Disney pitched that they would pay for half
but also get half of profits and Sony was seemingly
not willing to give up that big of a piece of the earnings,
so they walked.
- [Green Goblin] Out am I?
- And of course once fans got wind of the Sony/Marvel deal
collapsing the internet went into overdrive.
#SaveSpidey
and #SaveSpidermanFromSony began to trend
across social media.
Fans took to the sub-reddit raimimemes
to post about the news,
and even Hawkeye himself, Jeremy Renner pleaded with Sony
on his Instagram posting a picture with the caption,
Hey Sony Pictures we want Spider-Man back
to The Real Stan Lee and Marvel
please, thank you #congrats #spidermanrocks
hashtag bow and arrow emoji #please
Renner's post seems to sum up the general fan out cry.
Overall fans are siding with the house of mouse on this,
placing the blame on Sony for letting all the work
that had been done to get Spidey into the MCU go to waste.
However there are those pointing out how astronomical
the alleged Disney upcharge was.
Another wrinkle was added after Sony released
a new statement saying the news was mischaracterize,
claiming Kevin Feige was too busy to help produce
the next Spider-Man films considering his packed
upcoming slate in the MCU.
The statement was polite and appreciative
siting Feige's past work on the Sony/Marvel films.
However, beyond this we still haven't heard
any official word on the matter from Disney or Marvel
one way or the other.
So does this mean,
that years of setting up Tony Stark handing the MCU baton
to Spider-Man are completely worthless?
Because Peter Parker is not going to feel so good
turned to dust and get erased to the MCU?
- [Spider-Man] I don't want to go. I don't want to go.
- Well not necessarily,
even though Sony acknowledges that Kevin Feige's direct
involvement in future Spider-Man films is probably done,
in their press release they also say that they hope
this might change in the future.
Which is hopeful news because what this tells us
other than the spin from the Sony PR people,
it's that they don't want this relationship
to go down the tubes completely
and there is a chance that negotiations will continue
in some form or another.
Even BuzzFeed News seemed to double down on this,
reporting quote "BuzzFeed News confirms negotiations
between Disney and Sony about the character's fate
remain ongoing, including how much Sony's Spider-Man movies
could remain apart of the MCU."
So right now, it feels like both sides are playing it safe
to see where everything ends up
in the court of public opinion.
And as we mentioned earlier,
it appears that both sides of the argument
are fighting it out on Twitter,
with fans saying Disney deserves the cash
for getting Parker back on track for Sony,
and others Disney's asking for too big a chunk
of that Spidey moola.
So what does this all mean for Spidey's future?
Well the two sides could eventually find common ground
and things will continue to truck along as they have been
with Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
However, if the two companies are not able to work out
their differences then Marvel will ultimately
have to rework some of the plot threads that
were in Spider-Man: Far From Home.
And as we've seen in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3
Marvel doesn't shy away from reworking their stories
or from pushing release dates.
Couple that with the fact that Marvel just recently
reacquired both the Fantastic Four and X-Men
so they have a few more options as to how they could
move forward in a Spider-Man less world.
As for Sony, they've been keen on building out
their own Spider franchise as we've seen
with Venom and Morbius.
And since they reportedly have Tom Holland
for at least two more Spider films,
they can easily focus the movies more
on the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man aspect,
with Ned, MJ and friends while he's still in high school
and lightly scrub away the bigger world
established in the MCU.
Speaking of Venom, we know Sony is in the works
with making a sequel to everybody's favorite goo boy,
with the recent announcement of Andy Serkis as the director.
It's no secret they want to have both of the Tom's,
Hardy and Holland face off against each other
on the big screen,
and without Kevin Feige's creative hold on the franchise,
Sony can now do that with ease.
Now this might be a little big of speculation but
with Into the Spider-Verse's Lord and Miller
already heading up Sony's Spider-Man's TV universe
it is not that crazy to see a world
where Sony can extend that to their live action
Spider-Man film as well.
Essentially make them the Kevin Feige of all of their
Spider-Man properties.
They've proven their chops with Spider-Verse
and the Lego Movie.
It's not that far of a stretch
and it might just keep the die-hard fans from
completely turning their back from the web slinger.
But for now we will just have to see how this all plays out
and if Spider-Man is truly dunzo in the MCU.
But what do you folks think?
Is Spider-Man really dead in the MCU
or is there a chance he will be revived?
- [Woman] There's a chance.
- [Man] There's always a chance.
- [Woman] There's a always a chance. (laughs)
- How will Marvel move forward in a spider-less world?
And which Spider-Man moment was your favorite?
You know it's pizza time.
- [Peter Parker] Pizza time!
- Let's discuss.
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