>>AS YOU ARE MORE THAN LIKELY AWARE, TODAY PARIS WAS ONCE
AGAIN STRUCK BY A WAVE OF SHOOTINGS, EXPLOSIONS AS WELL.
OF COURSE THE INFORMATION IS COMING OUT AS WE ARE RECORDING
THIS, THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IS PATCHY AND CHAOTIC BUT WE WILL
GIVE YOU AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME INITIAL
PHOTOGRAPHS FROM PARIS WHICH WE WILL SHOW YOU AS WELL.
TRAGICALLY, UP TO 60 ARE ALREADY DEAD ACCORDING TO A CNN
AFFILIATE IN THE REGION.
THERE ARE REPORTS OF UP TO SIX
DISTINCT SHOOTING LOCATIONS, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A POSSIBILITY
THAT CERTAIN SHOOTERS MOVED FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER.
SOME
ARE SAYING TWO SHOOTING LOCATIONS.
ONE OF THE SITUATIONS
AS AT THE BATACLAN THEATER, AT LEAST 15 HAVE BEEN KILLED
ACCORDING TO THE AP.
ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO 100 PEOPLE ARE BEING
HELD HOSTAGE BY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SIX TO EIGHT SHOOTERS.
THERE WERE ALSO THREE
EXPLOSIONS NEAR THE STADE DE FRANCE, THERE HAVE BEEN VINES
DURING THE SOCCER MATCH WHERE YOU CAN HEAR EXPLOSIONS IN THE
BACKGROUND.
THE PRESIDENT WAS AT THE MATCH, HE HAS BEEN TAKEN
AWAY, AND THERE ARE SCATTERED REPORTS OF POLICE FIRING AT
CERTAIN ROOFTOPS IN THE 10TH DISTRICT, NEAR THE THEATER.
AT
THIS POINT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SHOOTERS ARE OUT THERE, HOW
MANY MIGHT HAVE BEEN KILLED, INFORMATION IS PATCHY.
THERE ARE
CONTRADICTORY REPORTS COMING IN FROM MULTIPLE MEDIA OUTLETS.
CONSIDERING THE RECENT HISTORY OF TERRORIST ATTACKS IN FRANCE,
THIS IS DISHEARTENING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
>>CNN'S JIM BITTERMANN, HE IS BASED IN PARIS, HE SAYS POLICE
ARE SHOOTING AT A ROOFTOP NEAR THE THEATER, THAT IS WHERE
HOSTAGES ARE BEING HELD.
>>I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER ñ- FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T KNOW WHO
THE CULPRITS ARE YET AS WE RECORD TODAY.
WHEN YOU ARE
WATCHING THIS YOU MIGHT ALREADY KNOW.
UNDERSTAND THAT WE
RECORDED THIS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON IN LOS ANGELES.
OF
COURSE WHO IT IS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE AS TO HOW YOU REACT,
I THINK -- BUT WE WANT TO BE TOUGH, I HEAR 60 DEAD IN PARIS,
I AM SHOCKED BY IT.
THAT IS A BIG NUMBER, IT IS HORRIFIC.
JOHN EXPLAINED THE SHOOTINGS, BUT WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING?
WE
WANT TO GET TOUGH, AFTER 9/11 AMERICA GOT TOUGH AND
OPENED UP A PANDORA'S BOX,
THAT CREATED ISIS.
LET'S SAY THEY ARE
FUNDAMENTALIST MUSLIMS, WE ARE GOING TO GET TOUGH WITH THEM,
WHAT DO WE DO?
OR THEY ARE CRAZY RIGHT WING SKINHEADS LIKE THE
GUY FROM NORWAY.
WHICHEVER.
PICK YOUR POISON.
HOW DO WE GET
TOUGH WITH THEM?
WHAT DO WE DO?
DO WE KILL MORE OF THEM, DO WE
BOMB THEM?
THE BOMBING HAS LED TO THIS.
I'M NOT SAYING IT IS
OUR FAULT, I AM JUST SAYING THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE HAS NOT
WORKED.
IT IS NOT LIKE THERE IS LESS VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD, IT
IS NOT LIKE WE ARE SAFE.
THERE ARE ATTACKS IN LONDON AND PARIS
AND THE U.S., EVERYWHERE.
WHAT DO WE DO?
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE
GREAT ANSWERS.
I THINK THE IDEA IS TO BE SMART, ATTACK THE
PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DID IT, WHOEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE, AND
NOT ANY MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE THAT CREATES BIGGER PROBLEMS.
BUT IT IS NOT AN EASY TASK.
>>I IMAGINE THAT IF THE WORLD WERE RUN SANELY THAT THE
RESPONSE WOULD BE THE WORLD COMING TOGETHER.
AND IT WOULDN'T
BE VLADIMIR PUTIN RANDOMLY BOMBING ISIS EXCEPT PROBABLY NOT
ISIS, AND THAT THIS WOULD, AGAIN WITH SANE LEADERS, CAUSE THE
WORLD POWERS IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEARING THE BRUNT
OF ISIS'S ATTACKS, MUSLIM COUNTRIES, THAT THERE WAS A REAL
COALITION THAT WOULD COME TOGETHER AND DEAL WITH IT AS
ONE, INSTEAD OF WHAT I IMAGINE WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE,
SOMETHING MORE RANDOM AND HAPHAZARD.
>>BUT EVEN IN THAT INSTANCE OF THAT COALITION AND THAT COMING
TOGETHER, THE NATURE OF ISIL AND THE THREAT WE ARE SPECULATING
ABOUT IS SO FRAGMENTED AND FRACTURED THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
TO ERADICATE.
IT WOULD NECESSITATE SOMEONE ñ- IT
BECOMES A QUESTION OF, TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU ENGAGE WITH THESE
PEOPLE?
WE DON'T TALK TO TERRORISTS -- TO WHAT EXTENT IS IT
LEGITIMATE TO OPEN A DIALOGUE WITH TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS?
>>I DIDN'T MEAN, LIKE, A COALITION OF FORCES THAT GO
AND BOMB, I MEANT THAT THERE WAS A CLEAR INTERNATIONAL CONSENSUS.
>>BUT MY QUESTION WOULD THEN BE, TO DO WHAT?
AT THE MOMENT THERE
IS A CONSENSUS TO OBLITERATE, AND TO YOUR POINT IT IS NOT
MAKING A DIFFERENCE, IT IS JUST EXACERBATING.
>>THIS IS AN INTERESTING MOMENT IN TIME.
>>YOU ARE JUST PROTECTED BY THE RELATIVE DIFFICULTY IN
MAKING THE LINK.
>>A PIECE OF BREAKING NEWS HERE, FRAN«OIS HOLLANDE HAS CLOSED
FRANCE'S BORDERS.
>>STATE OF EMERGENCY.
>>DO WE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THEY CAME FROM OUTSIDE THE BORDERS?
>>THAT MIGHT BE JUST FROM STOPPING THEM FLEEING.
BUT THAT
COULD BE A REACTION THAT FURTHER RADICALIZES MUSLIMS LIVING IN
FRANCE.