Rebekah: Hey.
Mike: Hello.
Rebekah: So we just finished a podcast and I'm so sweaty. This is going to be the worst
I've ever looked in a Bex Life video because your apartment is 97 degrees.
Mike: Yeah. Well, that's why all my sauerkraut went -- didn't go right.
Rebekah: It's so freaking hot in here. It's like Hippieville.
Mike: Yeah, we're in a sweat lodge. This is a ...
Rebekah: My hair, like my flat iron hair is like -- it's just a travesty. But no, I wanted
to make this quick on video and I will introduce you really quick. You're Mike Perrine. You
are the official Bearded Bieber of BexLife.com. I want everyone to hash tag that, #BeardedBieber.
It's brilliant, because you are really like a heartthrob and I get this beard thing having
-- I mean the crunchy crowd.
Mike: I look like a crazy biker. I don't know if I'm a heartthrob.
Rebekah: No. People like your beard. So we did this podcast an hour and a half. We were
talking to you and it's really interesting and why I want people to watch it is because
we talked about stuff that I never talk about.
Mike: I like that. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Rebekah: I said the F word.
Mike: You did.
Rebekah: I talked about --
Mike: A couple of times I think.
Rebekah: Empowered natural childbirth, vaccinations.
Mike: Yeah, we talked about controversial things.
Rebekah: Mob Wives, Big Ang, colonics, lots of stuff.
Mike: We covered a lot of things. We did it twice.
Rebekah: We did it twice. But it was good and I think I want to hear what everyone thinks
about the podcast that we did because I've been talking about doing more podcasts and
I would like to do more regular stuff with you. So maybe we will put that in the works.
I will put the pressure on you.
Mike: I would love for you to do -- I would love for you to actually host some of these
podcasts for me but I think you should really do podcasts.
Rebekah: You should put me in with really crazy people.
Mike: I would love to. I'm -- I'm saving all the good ones for you. I would love for you
to do that. You know why I really love podcasts? Because first of all, I live in New York City
Subways all the time. I used to listen to music. I still like music but podcasts, I
could learn something, get an experience of something.
The other thing I like about it is like I have to do dishes or do something and if I
could just -- I could like just learn something. I mean it's great. Sometimes I want to be
in my own thoughts but when I don't want to, the music stays in my head. I go to sleep.
I have trouble sleeping and the music plays over and over but listening to people talk,
I just get inspired or I learn something new. It's incredible.
Rebekah: I used to think they were so nerdy and I was so not into it. I was like, "Who
listens to podcasts?" I really enjoy it lately. It's like something that I can do when I'm
doing anything else.
Mike: It's radio.
Rebekah: Multitasking.
Mike: Yeah.
Rebekah: What I wanted to talk about quickly -- well, not quickly, but -- so we did these
two videos, Flat Belly In Five Days and then we just did this new one Why am I Still Fat?
It's getting some traffic, getting good response. But people are still -- they have lots of
questions about them and the feedback that I'm getting, the negative feedback I'm getting
is that this is just not something that works for bodybuilders.
It's not going to work for -- it's a lot of like this is not what I do. It wouldn't work
for me in this situation and I'm trying to talk more about the long term because my mom
was a bodybuilder in the 80s and she had a lot of long term consequences, repercussions,
negative things that happened because of the way she was treating her body. Not so much
the way she was eating. She always ate really well. So what do you say about that?
Mike: Well, it's ...
Rebekah: I talk a lot with my questions.
Mike: The thing is, there are always variables and it depends on what somebody is doing.
Everything is just math. It's chemical math and the program that I put out and the things
that I'm trying to work with people on is -- we will call it biochemical harmony. We're
trying to -- everything we do is manipulating because we don't live in a natural world.
We don't live instinctively. We're not like eating wild food. We don't do that anymore.
So now we have access to all these different things. So as we eat and we move our bodies
differently because we're not running around hunting game or traveling in groups -- no,
we go to a gym or we do whatever we do.
We're doing body manipulation and it's just math. So it's like shitty food gives you a
shitty body and makes you feel shitty or this food does this and does that.
Rebekah: What about shitty food that are making you feel good and making your body look good
though temporarily? I think that that's what's happening. I think that people are seeing
these results from food sources that are not so great for them. You know what I'm saying?
Like a lot of these synthetic stuff, the protein powder shakes, whatever. Like, they're getting
all these great results. How do you talk with these people?
Mike: Well, it depends what the great results are. I mean if you look at paleo or Atkins
or any of these people, protein and fat are poor sources of fuel. If you eat that way
-- which nobody eats that way for life. Nobody eats that way for life. Nobody sustains a
diet that doesn't have carbs and sugars in it.
If you eat all that heavy animal protein, it will make you lose weight and protein,
I talked about this in the Dr. Bisci Podcast or he talked about this more, the Dr. Bisci
Podcast on cancer. When we eat high levels of protein, we have more human growth hormone.
You're going to stack. You're going to build more muscle and you're going to get stronger.
But if you're not balancing that out with a lot of plants really and you're not taking
enough fiber to go to the bathroom, I mean you're going to build muscle. You're going
to not have a lot of fat but you're probably going to have a full colon. You're going to
have residues in your body.
A lot of people are trying to debunk the acid-alkaline thing. Nobody makes their body alkaline first
of all. You don't like walk around like I'm alkaline. What we're doing with alkaline food
is we're trying to have less stress on the body to have to adjust its own pH, right?
A lot of people don't get that.
But if you're putting in a lot of meat and you're creating an acid environment that constantly
needs to be adjusted, you're going to lose bone density. They know that. It has been
in scientific journals like Journal of American Medical Association since the 70s. You can
read about it in John Robbins' book.
Rebekah: Yeah. Well, some people don't know.
Mike: Yeah.
Rebekah: Some people don't know. They don't want to know.
Mike: So yeah, you will be strong. Protein is very stimulating. You will feel very good
if you're eating like a -- if you're eating high protein, high fat diets and you're going
to build muscle. But what's happening to your cellular chemistry, Fred Bisci always used
to say, "All the people I worked out with are the best built people in the cemetery
right now. They're all dead." A lot of people with bone density problems from that, so yeah,
like it's body manipulation in one way or the other. How are you manipulating your body?
Rebekah: So here's a comment I got and this is not the first time I've heard this comment.
This is the angriest version of it though but basically like this whole food combining
thing and all these rules that you're talking about, this is the reason why it's so hard
for people to lose weight. You're making it overcomplicated. I didn't really think anything
that we said was complicated at all. But I think coming in with that attitude, you're
going to see that it's complicated. It's the stupidest thing that he has heard all day.
Mike: That was a comment?
Rebekah: That was a comment and it's simply calories in, calories out. That's it. It's
calories in, calories out. So why -- I think calories in, calories out is probably one
of the most dangerous things you can tell somebody because I can -- I can eat a cupcake.
That's calories in and then I can run it off and that's calories out. It's not serving
me nutritionally. What do you say about it?
Mike: I remember a long time ago. I had a friend that was a weightlifter and he was
on a special diet to like get shredded and he's actually -- he's still a great friend
of mine. I've known him for 30 years. He's the biggest person I've ever seen in real
life that's like one of those people that I've actually seen and known. But he was on
some program and he was like OK, well, I'm allowed on this program to have a beer or
a banana tonight. So shall I go out and have a beer? I was like, "Are you out of your mind?"
Rebekah: But that's what people are doing.
Mike: Yeah.
Rebekah: That's the calculation that's happening in my head. Like, can I have a margarita or
can I have a chicken breast or whatever? That's the trade off.
Mike: I mean let's talk about it, because let's assume that everybody is intelligent
and they're going to get this because it goes -- I'm just ...
Rebekah: My audience but let's not assume everybody.
Mike: No, but I --
Rebekah: Just my audience.
Mike: Because it's an advanced concept but the thing is when -- it's not calories in,
calories out. It's the way -- people that say that don't understand chemistry and they
don't understand food chemistry.
So one of the -- and I know that people feel like it's a little complicated because I used
to think that. I thought -- the first time I heard about food combining, I thought, "Why
do I have to like be driving a car just to eat something?" Like I have to like check
this, check that, make sure to -- it shouldn't be that -- the reason it's complicated is
because a lot of what we eat is not food. We have an abundance of every single thing
that we want anytime anywhere. Right now, in the United States, we can get fruits, vegetables,
processed foods, fats, anything we want.
Rebekah: I can get lychees. This is my disgusting cherry-picked lychees.
Mike: For someone that didn't like lychees, you sure eat a lot of lychees though.
Rebekah: I'm a convert but yeah, I can get lychees which are not grown in New Jersey.
Mike: Yeah. So when we have access to foods all the time and we're not eating based on
the ripeness of a fruit in a certain tree, food combining becomes more and more important.
The only thing to convince someone to food combine is see your before and after. How
do you feel? I always tell people, if you don't have a problem digesting food, don't
let me tell you that you have one. But when you come to me and you're like, "I'm full
of gas, my belly is bloated all the time," and when I'm -- and when I'm eating certain
combinations of food, I'm putting on weight.
The best example is apples and almonds. When you mix them together in the stomach, the
sugar in the apples will be held in the stomach just by the basic laws of how your body processes
the food. Proteins take a long time. Fruit, sugar and juices and fresh -- fruits are the
fastest moving foods. They don't require a lot of time. If they're held in the stomach,
it's 98 degrees. Our intestinal tract is lined with bacteria, ferments into alcohol and gas.
Now your liver is having to process it as alcohol and gas. It's just very simple.
People say certain things. I've had doctors say things like, "You know I don't believe
in colonics," or "You know that I don't believe in food combining. You know I don't believe
in veganism." I go, "It's not faith-based. It's just math. You don't have to believe
in it. It's just science."
Rebekah: Oh, it's not faith-based and if you don't want to do the math, and you don't want
to look up the science, you can have the experience and that's the thing. That's my like number
one response to people in the comments when they're resistant to it. I'm like, listen.
First of all, if things are working for you, then let them continue to work. Again, pooping,
sleeping, happiness, energy, all those things, because we aren't all one thing.
But if you are having issues, if you're having bloating, if you're having unexplained weight
gain, if you're having weight loss plateaus and you can't get past them and you truly
do feel like you have to lose this weight, then these things could help you. Like just
try them out and see what happens before you tell me it's the stupidest thing you've heard
all day.
Mike: Right. Don't try it for three days. Try it for three months. Really see how you
transform.
Rebekah: I don't see it as being complicated. I mean I really don't go into all -- I have
a book on food combining from like the 70s. That was my mother's and there's a lot in
it and there's a lot of foods in there that I don't even eat, so it wouldn't even come
into play. It's just for me it's about eating simply. Like OK, I'm going to eat this food
and then I'm going to eat that food and I don't have to eat all the foods all at the
same time. It's like you don't have to do all the things. Just do one of the things.
Mike: Do it where -- I give people a very simple document that I will soon have available
on the website but I usually give it to clients and I'm like there's a lot of stuff in here.
It's the foundation of the work that I do. Just glance it over and take what works. Leave
the rest. Don't feel overwhelmed by it.
Rebekah: Yeah. I think -- I wanted to do this like little -- like fake podcasts, to piggyback
on your podcast. It was really excellent because we talked about so much stuff like I listed
in, in the beginning, and I got a little bit ragey. I said the F word. I get ragey. I felt
really ragey.
Mike: We said the F word. We said the S word. We said the P word.
Rebekah: We did. We said the P word.
Mike: We did. Well, we had to. It was an approved use of the P word because it was in the title
of a book.
Rebekah: Yeah.
Mike: And we said ...
Rebekah: That's like a 12-year-old technicality. Mom, I'm quoting somebody.
Mike: I mean the dirtiest word of all was "Bearded Bieber" I think.
Rebekah: Bearded Bieber is disgusting, #BeardedBieber. Really, you got to use it. But I want to -- it's
like I want to do this because I really do want people to go over and look at that and
I do want to change the tone of my videos because I've been -- I guess the past four
years of Bex Life have been a primer.
It's like this is the introduction. This is the sweet talk into food combining. This is
the sweet talk into meditation and I'm going to continue with the four-minute meditations
but it's like there's a realness that's happening behind the scenes. There's a realness that's
happening with me and my life behind these very short glimpses that you get in the videos
and it's very surface. It's effective but it's very surface.
So if you want to know more about nutrition, about really connecting with yourself, about
true fitness, all this stuff, watch you, but mostly watch me. But tell me that that's what
you want to hear and I will absolutely accommodate because that's what I want to offer people.
Yeah, I think we did that in our podcasts.
Mike: You know, the reason I wanted to do podcasts is because I wanted to be able to
talk about whatever I wanted and share the amazing conversations that I have with people.
Rebekah: Yeah.
Mike: I didn't want to have to dumb it down. There's always this ...
Rebekah: Yeah.
Mike: I didn't want to have to dumb it down. People are smarter than that.
Rebekah: No. I mean my own is really smart and I don't think I'm ever dumbing it down
for them. It's that it's like I have three minutes to capture them.
Mike: Yeah.
Rebekah: It's like what can I say -- how many buzzwords? How many times can I say skinny,
lose weight, flat belly, freaking bootylicious bikini body to get them in? It's like how
do I keep you so I can really tell you some real stuff?
Mike: I wanted to talk to you about that on the -- I kind of lost track of all my notes.
I want to talk to you about like click videos and stuff. Do you do that? Because I notice
Rebekah: I do it in a way. I mean I feel like I'm never dishonest. I think when I said it,
how to get a flat belly in five days, that was a hook but it was -- we talked about it.
Mike: I think we gave them something valuable. That will definitely affect the way that their
bellies ...
Rebekah: And people are responding. They're not like, "Oh, you guys are freaking liars."
See, I don't even say the F word on Bex Life.
Mike: See, I -- this is a rated G -- PG show.
Rebekah: This is PG.
Mike: Yeah, because I would name the podcast and I thought, OK, "talking shit with the
colonic therapist" is going to get a lot more hits than "Gil Jacobs shares his story of
healing".
Rebekah: Yeah.
Mike: It just is and ...
Rebekah: Well, no one knows who Gil Jacobs is.
Mike: Right.
Rebekah: No one knows who Rebekah Borucki is. That's why my name is not in the title.
So yeah, you got to talk about the stuff that people are looking for. You got to give people
what they want. You can't come off like I'm better than you and I'm going to tell you
what you really need. It's like people want to lose weight. So I'm going to talk to them
about that.
Mike: I'm just going to then start making cat videos because that's what we want.
Rebekah: Justin would be happy. Justin freaking -- every time I turn around in the office,
he's looking at another grumpy cat name, telling me about it or cute baby goats cuddling unicorns.
I swear, my husband. He's the king of the cute animals on the internet.
But yeah, I think that that's -- it's a direction that I want to take the work that I'm doing
because I think that it's -- I'm ready. It took a readiness for me to be able to share
more because I wanted to make sure that my information was good too. Like, I'm really
practicing it. This is the place in my life that -- I'm in a place in my life where I
feel confident to be able to talk about it and I want to take other people with me.
Mike: I want to come.
Rebekah: Well, we went there already. So we went there and so yeah, so everybody check
out the podcast. It's linked continuously on the bottom of this video because I really
-- you don't even have to hear what we're saying right now. You can just go over to
that because I feel like it was really good and check you out at EverydayDetox.org.
Mike: Dot org.
Rebekah: I know, because you're organized.
Mike: That's right.
Rebekah: You said that in the last video. The real thing to do -- oh, I hit the mic.
The real thing I want you guys to do is to sign up for both of our newsletters because
that's where the good stuff happens.
Mike: Yeah. I don't send spam. I haven't sent a newsletter yet. But I will. I'm waiting
for iTunes to figure out their madness so I can announce that we're on iTunes even though
we are on iTunes.
Rebekah: Give people the stuff if they sign up.
Mike: I know. They signed up but the good thing is, I don't clog your inbox. You know
what would have been really smart?
Rebekah: Or your colon. I won't clog your inbox or your colon.
Mike: You know what would have been really smart is if -- when we shut the air conditioner
off, we open the windows. That's why it was so much hotter.
Rebekah: I don't even notice it anymore. My hair is wrecked. My make-up is off. I feel
fantastic. This is the real deal, folks. We're on iPhones. We're recording on iPhones. This
is good stuff. Well, thank you. Yeah, head on over to the podcast.
Let me know if you want to see more of this stuff. I don't even care if three people watch
this and three people request to see more. I really want to give people stuff that they
desire most.
Mike: Cats.
Rebekah: Real information. Alright.