BENTINHO MASSARO: I just saw that I was so much freer in my experience than anyone else I ever met.
It’s rare that someone really obtains the power to alter physical reality but it is possible. I don’t really have a
definition of 'cult' but you could break it down as, 'Curious Unconditionally Loving Tribe; C-U-L-T.'
That would be the positive expression of a cult. Usually people mean something more negative by cult.
Most people are emotionally and spiritually lost. You are scared little toddler ****.
BENTINHO MASSARO: My name is Bentinho Massaro and I consider myself to be nothing really.
I wear many jackets, people call me spiritual teacher or leader, entrepreneur, physically I am whatever I need to
be to be of service and the ways that I can be of service to people.
BENTINHO MASSARO: So currently we are in Barlow at a seven day residential retreat. So over 400 people
are coming together.
BENTINHO MASSARO: So mostly it consists of the sessions. There are also a couple of optional sessions
like morning yoga, HYA yoga and some optional sessions with my friends and some dancing sessions,
some ecstatic dance. There will be a party on Saturday, DJ will be coming. People get the invitation to meditate
on their own and apply some of the work that we do during the sessions.
BENTINHO MASSARO: At some point, I did some writings, but I also started to shoot some videos and
that’s really when people caught on to me because I guess they liked the vibration of it, the vibe that came off
of it. The giddiness, the smile, the spontaneity, the youthfulness.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Trinfinity is just the word or symbol I came up with as three points of the infinity:
one pointing to the field of energy out of which everything is made manifest;
one pointing to the absolute, which is the source even of that energy; the one infinite creator, teachings that
address the individual like, how to live an empowered life here in a very human way.
I want to be of help to truly anyone who desires this type of help.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Is it going to take everything you have? PEOPLE: Yes.
BENTINHO MASSARO: In fact it’s about giving up everything you have for the sake of the vision.
KASPER VAN STEVENINCK: I think what Bentinho teaches, from my own experience, is about awareness,
about consciousness and what it all relates to or what it means or how it functions.
So it’s a big subject so to say and you can maybe subdivide it in different things.
MAAIKE REMMERSWAAL: How to be in the middle of life, so how to be in the center of the storm while
everything around you is moving and how to stay centered so that you yourself can decide what you want
to create in your own life.
BENTINHO MASSARO: This is kind of the chair you guys picked. The room is kind of like that scene from
The Matrix where you offer the blue or the red pill. Did you do that on purpose?
BENTINHO MASSARO: People ask me a lot about the whole levitation thing and I just truly believe that these
things are possible. I have experienced weird things enough for me to know that, that’s possible.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Altering the weather is one fun, usually innocent, example of how we can begin to
explore some of that capacity. I have had, I would say over 95% success with this one in particular.
BENTINHO MASSARO: I started researching telekinesis because it got me very curious, and I started practicing it
myself and experimenting and training and I did have some results with that.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Just some tin foil that I could spin on a table. At some point, I rolled a pen across the
table and that’s when I thought, ‘Okay! This is enough. I don’t have to practice this anymore. I have proven it to
myself. It is possible.’ And ever since I haven’t really done it or even attempted it anymore.
BENTINHO MASSARO: I know that you feel good right now. You feel really, really good right now. Spaceships
are docking in and out of station Earth, and all these E.T. beings are enjoying interacting with us.
BENTINHO MASSARO: And I’ll share with you this beautiful location which I believe
has been generated by my family.
MATTHEW REMSKI: You don’t make claims like that in 2018 without showing your work, right? Like, all right,
so you can change the weather, you can move a pen across the table? Let’s see it, let’s see it and if you can’t
show it and if you are not showing it, why are you saying it? And if there is deception going on at the fundamental
level of the leader saying that he can do things that he can’t actually do than yeah, you have got one of the three
pillars of a cultic organisation.
MAAIKE REMMERSWAAL: Being here feels like a big mirror. So I get to know myself even better than I thought
I already knew.
KASPER VAN STEVENINCK: I think it’s a really cool thing. I am really thankful to be here.
KASPER VAN STEVENINCK: Atmosphere is pretty relaxed. So it feels a little bit like a holiday.
BENTINHO MASSARO: If you weren’t so high up in your own ass about this *** concept of respect, you would
actually see how much love there is behind me saying what I say.
And when you stumble upon a point of view
that feels good about someone else being raped, are you willing to accept that point of view?
That’s the paradox of humility.
So what, somebody is being triggered? That is funny.
BENTINHO MASSARO: How is that not funny?
BENTINHO MASSARO: When the article came out, I was not surprised. I understand that the nature of my work
rubs some people the wrong way. I have seen a lot of envy and jealousy and opposition. Well, it was a good
lesson for us to become more mindful as to who we just let into our everyday meetings or what-have-you.
I am a good person, my intentions are good and I want what’s best for everyone. I don’t want anything from my
community. Sometimes the role of the teacher again is to slap them awake,
sometimes that comes out with a little, "**** you!"
BENTINHO MASSARO: Another one of the allegations that a lot of spiritual teachers, including myself, receive
is the whole topic about money.
BENTINHO MASSARO: We as a company do make quite a bit of money. I guess it’s all relative. But the majority of
that goes straight back into the creation of the events, the supporting of the employees,
all the technical equipment and divisions in the video production.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Good morning! I just arrived in Dubai last night.
BENTINHO MASSARO: And, yes! I will also occasionally spend that money on something that nourishes my
vehicle. Sometimes you need to stop the car and get some gas, right? I enjoy good whiskey. I enjoy a good
cigar. I enjoy watching movies. I enjoy taking my team to say a nice location somewhere in a different country.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Is it possible that some of the spiritual concepts have played into his perspective?
That’s definitely a possibility. I have never felt any type of guilt or responsibility.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Continue to have faith. See it as a movie; you are just watching a movie. When things get
intense, go like, ‘This is a movie.’
BENTINHO MASSARO: I just felt his heart when I heard the news. I was like, ‘Oh, Brent!’
BENTINHO MASSARO: So, yes! It was a bit of inconvenient timing because the article had just come
out in terms of, you know, our image to the world. So I got a lot of backlash on that.
MATTHEW REMSKI: If they are sitting in a room where the general impression is that the person sitting on the
throne at the front of the room has some sort of special power and is realized in some way as some kind of
higher being and then he opens his mouth and he suggests that, yes, he can change the weather through
his thoughts or that he can levitate or he talks to aliens or whatever. If those dynamics are in play,
I would suggest that anybody in that crowd stand back and say, ‘Huh! What makes this person so special?’
KASPER VAN STEVEN: I mean, of course, you have the concept of cult. But, yeah, for me myself you know,
I am just here to experience it for myself.
MAAIKE REMMERSWAAL: I don’t think these are cults. But, yeah, if someone else thinks, it’s fine.
WOMAN: I don’t think that’s what it is. BENTINHO MASSARO: Oh!
BENTINHO MASSARO: What is it?
BENTINHO MASSARO: Tell me quick and tell me now. What is it? The train is leaving. You have no time to think.
What is it? It is only because you still believe it is serving you that you keep perpetuating that which doesn’t
serve you. Do you feel that? Can you see that? Can you love yourself? Are you worthy of that? Are you deserving
of love? Are you infinitely worthy? Are you infinitely worthy? Are you infinitely worthy?
BENTINHO MASSARO: Yeah! Are you?
MATTHEW REMSKI: The clue is you know, if you run any one of his videos through a transcription record,
see whether or not it makes sense on paper in text? And that’s a big clue because most of the time when loaded
or circular language is used, it will show itself like, you know, a rusty nail sticking out of a board.
BENTINHO MASSARO: It’s a hard thing to grasp but everything that has a manifest form is not what it seems.
In truth, there are no objects.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Vibration or level of consciousness or level of understanding is steadily
increasing collectively. The effects of that may look good and look bad and that may alternate,
may go through waves but that’s just a surface level. Every cubic inch of space, time, matter is infused with a
higher concentration of light or the original energy of creation out of which everything comes.
Everything is inherently empty and meaningless.
MATTHEW REMSKI:Of course he is not going to say that he is running a cult. The techniques are standard.
BENTINHO MASSARO: Imagine this whole room not giving a damn about their life.
BENTINHO MASSARO: How fun would that be?
If we look at the tyrants in the past, I greatly respect their accomplishment. You can learn from Hitler and apply it
in a positive way. It’s relatively easy for someone to gain a position of influence over millions of people.
And you literally feel so powerful that you don’t care if someone puts a gun to your head.
BENTINHO MASSARO: I don’t consider my group as a cult if by cult you mean what most people mean by it:
some dysfunctional group of people completely under the spell of a manipulative leader.
BENTINHO MASSARO: I wouldn’t say that’s the case but you can ask my community and I mean that’s up to
anyone to make up their minds.
BENTINHO MASSARO: I have no desire to start a dysfunctional community.