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JKD Concept versus Original JKD.
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The most controversial subject when it comes
Bruce Lee's martial art.
It's been debating over now decades.
It's almost like Christianity versus Catholic, right?
In the JKD community.
So Shifu let's talk about maybe the original JKD first.
What's your thought, what's your perspective?
- Um I would say as a culture you know
people believe original is based off of what Bruce Lee
was teaching at the time,
like in the late 60's, in the 70's era etc.
And obviously he passes away.
Concepts is an idea
driven from those thoughts
and principles from that era,
but they look at a more modern era.
- Hmm
- So they're thinking okay so people move differently now,
we've evolved in the different forms of fighting, right?
You see the UFC fights, I mean those people
are now hands up, kicking, so now we place an idea
within that type of a fighting aspect of the art.
- And it's almost if you're not familiar with
Bruce Lee's martial art, the two school thought, right?
you have the JKD, the original JKD which is
um I study under Tat Wong, and which is original JKD,
that lineage where their school of thought,
they believe that we should preserve the art exactly
how the way that Bruce taught us is the way
we're teaching you, not one bit more.
This is the stance, this is the punch,
we're not changing a damn thing basically.
This is it, right.
And then they have the JKD concepts, which they're like
no, no, no JKD is not a style, right.
It is a set of principles philosophy, that
you should find your own path.
Dan Inosanto said "Absorb what is useful,
reject what is useless and add what is eventually your own".
It's that school of thought.
- Yeah.
- Which I find that they also then incorporate
all different art, like Filipino martial art,
Indonesian martial art, Malaysian martial art, Karate,
different type boxing.
I studied under two of,
briefly,
no authority on this,
no way I am not representing the art I am just saying,
from my understanding, I studied under two of
Dan Inosanto's students.
So from my understanding, I might quickly demonstrate Shifu
then you can also bring some attention...
I'll invite Shin come in, and just do a quite demonstration.
So the way I see it, is that,
from JKD concepts,
one big philosophy is that they like to
flow from art to art.
They believe you should be well-trained in different
types of martial arts, so more weapons and more tools
you can use.
Example would be, the original JKD, stance here,
they could go from a, let's say a kick,
we have a lot of different kicks, let's say you're taking
a savate kick, right, from here, you could flow from
a Wing Chun, and then you go flow from boxing,
and then they could go from Thai boxing,
and then they could go from a sweep, and then then could go
from a Jin Jitsu.
So it flow from art to art to art, now this is just
my understanding, my own interpretation.
The way that I see it, is much more imagine you have
an apple, you have an orange, you have a banana,
and they put a stick through it.
You have different types of Martial art depends on scenario,
I'll pull an apple I'll pull an orange or I'll pull a banana
depends on that.
To me, Shifu, you can come back right in,
is for the original JKD, or what I think JKD is,
is much more like a blender, that you put the apple in
you put the orange in, you put the banana in,
and you blend it.
So when it's finished, the end product, is not a banana,
it's not an apple, it's a different type of drink,
like a smoothie.
I don't know, what do you think? That's my take.
- (Laugh), I no way represent original Jeet Kune Do.
I find my representation of it is a clarity
and understanding of how to use principles.
And those principles are how I apply whatever type of forms
he uses against me, and try to attack his base,
and still hit with power and precision, and utilizing
what people call, the Five Ways of Attack.
Now, you could pull and throw out the entire feel and look
of what Jeet Kune Do is supposed to look like,
because you are thinking about principles now.
And that's the difference between me,
and original people, or concepts.
Now with the way you look at that, and again I am going back
to the concepts group, or the original.
They feel that it's the right way for them than more
power to them. They are leaning towards a direction
that makes them feel good about what they do, then do it!
There's no problem.
- And I think, again with Martial art, because most of us
we want to defend ourselves,
we want to build self-confidence,
we want to improve our health.
I mean I've never seen, like in all across the board,
different sports, different industries, especially on
social media. I have never seen more ego in martial arts
than any other things. All we debate is
"Hey you suck." "You are wrong." "You are doing it wrong."
"I am the best." Or "I am gonna kick your ass."
"I am gonna challenge you."
It's always these types of big ego.
Really?
Right?
We are all doing it, I think because
we are all fans of Bruce Lee.
We resonate towards his philosophy, right?
If you know Bruce, it's about spreading the message,
positive message, we are making a difference.
Not like "I hate you, you hate me".
But somehow all these students all hate each other,
and they fight and "You suck and I am the best".
That to me it's already against what JKD is about, right?
- Do we see all these people's opinions now?
- Yeah it's right there, and probably this video
will get a bunch of hate comments like "You suck" or
"I don't like this".
We know, we know though, we are just sharing
our interpretation, our perspective, right?
- Yeah, yeah.
- So you were talking about philosophies and principles,
not so much techniques. 'Cause I do see people like,
"Oh that's not the way that Bruce moved." Right?
"Bruce moved this way, so I should do that."
But we are not Bruce.
You are not Bruce, we are not Bruce. Okay?
So we cannot do some of those moves,
or that's not our strengths, right?
- Yeah. I think what you are trying to share was the
difference, you know, a similar difference.
So you know, if he were to throw a punch, I am not gonna
sit there and block it,
'cause we are thinking about hitting right?
So I am hitting, that would be my first action to take,
or if you step-in towards me, I am gonna immediately
kick to the groin.
I mean it almost looks similar to the other version of
let's do what it takes, flowing from art to art.
I don't look at it that way, it's looking at it
what's my direct path to the target, or how do I get him
to move in a position so I can hit him, and he can't
hit me.
That's the major difference.
- Yeah and the principle is set the longest weapon against
the nearest target, right? Take the other vital targets,
we sharpen our tools, we keep it simple.
- Right.
- For myself, when I learned the, actually
I want to hear Shifu's opinion as well.
When I learned the different types of art, I find that
in sparring a different even trained situation,
it's like
I have so many files, actually makes me less effective.
That's my point of view.
Oh! I have 20 moves I can do at this one strike.
I find that personally doesn't work for me,
I went through that period of time like
when you don't anything, and then you know too much?
And now it's all about daily decrease.
I would rather you have 20 things, I've got 1 thing.
Alright?
You gonna do this? I am gonna finger-jam.
You gonna do this? I am gonna finger-jam, right?
That's just me.
- No I totally agree.
- I find it's much simpler.
- And one of the videos that we were doing, I was just like
let's hit to the groin, just hit to the groin.
You saw me, I am just gonna be doing the same thing
over and over.
That's my initial target, I am not gonna worry about
if I can take a hit, I am not gonna worry about
if I can take a hit against your butt.
- If he can't take a hit on the groin, then we run.
That's a monster, that' a different animal right?
But JKD concepts, one thing I do like, which is they
talk a lot about weapons.
Original JKD there was no weapons at all, they didn't even
talk about, right?
So I think in modern day, that's something to consider,
because people do have weapons,
and how do you do against that?
- You can borrow some of that stuffs, and put it into
the weapon realm, either enhance the weaponry training,
through some principles out of the Jeet Kune Do art.
- Correct.
- But I don't teach the weapons, I just make sure that
people feel good about themselves, and knowing how to
sharpen their tools,
- That's right.
- Punching, kicking, whatever the case is, if you want to
learn the weapon art, that's another thing.
- So, comment below! Original JKD versus JKD concepts,
which school you are from, what are your thoughts?
I think that's a very good topic to discuss.
Again, no hate, don't say shit like I hate you all that,
it's not about that, it's about improving ourselves
as a community, we want to preserve Bruce's legacy,
and that's why we make these videos, you know?
That's what we do.
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