A CITY WHICH IS THE HEART OF SO MANY GREAT MUSICIANS AND ARETHA
FRANKLIN.
FRANKLIN. THANKS, STEVE, WE’LL STAY CLOSE
TO YOU.
TO YOU. JOINING US ON THE PHONE IS GLEN
TURMAN, ARETHA’S SECOND HUSBAND.
GLEN, YOU WERE ACTUALLY MARRIED
AT NEW BETHEL BAPTIST CHURCH
WHERE STEVE IS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> OH, YES.
I REMEMBER IT WELL.
WHAT A DAY.
>> YOU SAW ARETHA WITHIN THE
LAST FEW DAYS?
>> I WAS THERE TUESDAY, YES.
>> TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT.
>> GLAD I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEND TIME WITH HER.
WE -- WE HAD TIME TOGETHER
THERE.
THERE. THAT WAS VERY MOVING, VERY
MOVING.
MOVING. SHE WAS, OF COURSE, IN AND OUT
OF CONSCIOUSNESS AT THAT TIME,
BUT WHEN SHE REGAINED
CONSCIENCE, WE WERE ABLE TO
CONNECT WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND IT
WAS A VERY POWERFUL MOMENT.
VERY POWERFUL MOMENT FOR TWO
FRIENDS TO GET A CHANCE TO SAY
WHAT WE HAD TO SAY TO ONE
ANOTHER.
ANOTHER. >> WAS SHE TAKING STOCK --
>> BUT THROUGH THE SPIRIT.
>> WAS SHE TAKING STOCK ON THE
EXTRAORDINARY LIFE THAT SHE’S
LIVED?
LIVED? >> I’M SORRY?
>> WAS SHE TAKING STOCK IN THOSE
LAST FEW WORDS YOU HAD WITH HER,
WAS ARETHA REFLECTING ON HER
CONTRIBUTION, ON ALL THAT SHE
HAS DONE?
HAS DONE? DID SHE REALIZE WHAT SHE HAD
MEANT TO SO MANY PEOPLE?
>> I WOULDN’T SAY IT WAS ABOUT
TAKING STOCK.
TAKING STOCK. IT WAS MORE OF A PERSONAL,
PRIVATE MOMENT FOR TWO PEOPLE
WHO CARED FOR EACH OTHER TO JUST
KIND OF LOOK AT ONE ANOTHER AND
KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD
SHARED AND MEANT TO ONE ANOTHER.
IT WASN’T ABOUT ANY TAKING STOCK
OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR ANYTHING
OF PROFESSIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS.
IT WAS ALL VERY TOUCHING IN
TERMS OF FAMILY.
IT WAS A FAMILY MOMENT, YOU
KNOW, AND THOSE OTHER THINGS ARE
NOT REALLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF
ONE’S MIND AT TIMES LIKE THAT.
>> THEN WHAT WOULD YOU WANT
PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT HER?
THOSE OF US WHO ARE FANS OF HERS
FOR YEARS AND YEARS BUT WHO
DIDN’T GET TO KNOW HER
PERSONALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT
US TO KNOW ABOUT THE WOMAN SHE
WAS?
WAS? >> WELL, THE FIRST THING THAT
ALWAYS COMES TO MIND TO ME IS I
WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT
HER SENSE OF HUMOR.
SHE HAD A TREMENDOUS SENSE OF
HUMOR.
HUMOR. I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY JOKES SHE
HAD IN HER REPERTOIRE OF JOKES,
BUT SHE LOVED TO TELL JOKES AND
LOVED TO KEEP YOU LAUGHING AND
JUST HAD A GREAT -- AND WAS ABLE
TO MAKE SOME JOKES OUT OF
SITUATIONS THAT YOU WOULDN’T
THINK WERE FUNNY, YOU KNOW.
SHE COULD FIND THE HUMOR IN
SITUATIONS, WHETHER IT BE PEOPLE
OR PEOPLE’S, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIOR
OR WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT SHE HAD A TREMENDOUS SENSE
OF HUMOR.
OF HUMOR. >> WHAT WAS SHE -- YOU KNOW, WE
ALL -- THE INTERESTING THING,
STEPHANIE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT
ALL OF THE WEDDINGS WE HAVE
DANCED TO HER MUSIC AT.
WE HAD AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP
WITH HER BECAUSE WE ALL
ASSOCIATE HER MUSIC WITH
SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. WHAT WAS SHE -- WHAT DID SHE
THINK ABOUT PERSONALLY?
BECAUSE SHE WAS SUCH AN
INSPIRATION TO PEOPLE, WHERE DID
SHE DRAW HER INSPIRATION?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, HER FATHER
SHE ADORED AND HE WAS A VERY,
VERY POWERFUL MAN, A VERY STRONG
MAN, AND HE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF
AFFECT ON HER IN TERMS OF HIS
INVOLVEMENT IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS
MOVEMENT AND WHAT HIS CHURCH,
THE CHURCH THAT YOU SHOWED IN
THE OPENING SEGMENT WITH, MEANT
TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO SHE WAS ROOTED IN THE
IMPORTANCE OF GIVING BACK, OF
HER PEOPLE, OF WHAT THAT ALL
MEANT.
MEANT. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT
SHE TOOK UPON HERSELF TO DO HAD
THAT AS A BASE.
>> WHAT INSPIRED HER?
WHAT DROVE HER?
>> ARETHA WAS CURIOUS.
SHE WAS A CURIOUS PERSON,
CURIOUS ABOUT MANY THINGS.
WE’D SIT AND THE TABLETOP HAD
CLIPPINGS FROM SEVERAL MAGAZINES
ABOUT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES, WHETHER IT WAS
CLIPPINGS SHE WOULD TAKE OUT
ABOUT A RECIPE OR CLIPPINGS SHE
WOULD CUT OUT OF A MAGAZINE
ABOUT CLOTHING OR CLIPPINGS
ABOUT TRAVEL OR THINGS ABOUT --
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE GOOGLE
AND THE INTERNET AND ALL OF
THAT.
THAT. SO SHE -- THERE WERE PAPERS ALL
OVER THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, OR OUR
OFFICES ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS
THAT SHE WAS CURIOUS ABOUT AND
WAS LOOKING INTO AND GETTING
IDEAS FOR CONCERTS AND IDEAS FOR
SHOWS.
SHOWS. OH, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, DID YOU
READ THIS, THAT KIND OF THING.
ONCE SHE BOUGHT AN ENTIRE SET OF
BOOKS FROM HARVARD, HARVARD
BUSINESS SCHOOL.
BUSINESS SCHOOL. READ THIS, GLEN, READ THIS, WE
NEED TO BE UP ON THIS.
I DON’T KNOW IF I’M UP TO A
HARVARD GRADUATION.
HARVARD GRADUATION. >> THAT’S GREAT.
>> YOU KNOW, IT’S GOING TO TAKE
ME A WHILE TO READ THESE
BUSINESS BOOKS FROM HARVARD, YOU
KNOW.
KNOW. NO, BUT SHE WAS -- THAT WAS
ARETHA, YOU KNOW.
SHE STAYED UP ON THINGS.
>> YOU SAID ON THE TABLE THERE
WERE DIFFERENT KIND OF
CLIPPINGS, RECIPES, TRAVEL.
DID SHE LIKE TO COOK?
WE THINK OF HER AS AN
ENTERTAINER, BUT MAYBE PRIVATELY
AMONG FRIENDS AND FAMILY SHE
ENTERTAINED.
ENTERTAINED. >> OH, SHE COULD BURN.
ARETHA LOVED TO BURN.
ARE YOU KIDDING, SHE COULD BURN.
>> SHE GOT AN HONORARY DEGREE IN
2014.
2014. GLEN MUST HAVE TOLD THAT STORY
AT HARVARD, ALL RIGHT, LET’S GET
HER A DEGREE.
THE FIRST THING HE SAID WAS HOW
CURIOUS SHE WAS, HOW SHE WOULD
CALL UP AND ASK QUESTIONS.
SO THAT’S REMARKABLE, THAT
CURIOSITY.
CURIOSITY. IT IS KIND OF NOTEWORTHY THOUGH
THAT TODAY, THE DAY ON WHICH
ARETHA FRANKLIN PASSED, IT IS
AUGUST THE 16th, 41 YEARS TO THE
DAY THAT THE KING OF ROCK & ROLL
PASSED AWAY.
PASSED AWAY. ELVIS PRESLEY DIED 41 YEARS AGO
TODAY.
TODAY. THE KING OF ROCK AND THE QUEEN
OF SOUL.
OF SOUL. THANKS, GLEN, GLEN TURMAN,
ARETHA FRANKLIN’S FORMER
HUSBAND.
HUSBAND. >> AN HONOR TO HEAR SUCH
PERSONAL STORIES FROM SOMEONE
WHO KNEW AND LOVED HER.
>> AND GREAT STORIES, RIGHT?
WHAT DO YOU WANT OF PEOPLE?
THAT THEY’RE CURIOUS AND THEY
HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR.
THAT’S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED THE
HEAR ABOUT ARETHA FRANKLIN.
>> YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO READ
UP ON THIS, HERE IS AN ARTICLE
FOR YOU.
FOR YOU. I LIKE THAT.
THERE IS MUCH MORE STILL AHEAD
HONORING THE QUEEN OF SOUL,
ARETHA FRANKLIN.
ARETHA FRANKLIN. HERE IS A LOOK AT HER STAR ON
THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME.
Duncan just protected his family