WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW-GRAM.
MY NEXT GUEST IS AN EMMY AWARD-WINNING ANCHOR ON
UNIVISION, AND HOST OF A NEW DOCUMENTARY, "HATE RISING."
PLEASE WELCOME JORGE RAMOS!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ♪
THANKS FOR BEING HERE!
>> II DON'T HAVE AN AUDIENCE.
I DO MY NEWSCAST COMPLETELY BY MYSELF.
THIS IS FANTASTIC.
>> Stephen: THEY REALLY CHEER.
WE COULD DO LATE SHOW LATINO ( SPEAKING SPANISH )
>> Stephen: YES.
DON'T SAY BAD HOMBRE, PLEASE.
>> Stephen: DON'T SAY BAD HOMBRE?
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
PEOPLE WERE SURPRISE HEAD SAID BAD HOMBRE.
IS THAT BAD TO SAY?
>> IT'S A STEREOTYPE.
>> Stephen: JUST MEANS BAD MAN.
>> THE COMMUNITY IS FULL OF BUENOS HOMBRES, NOT BAD HOMBRES.
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WE HAVE A LOCAL
HOMBRE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
>> YOU SAID IT.
>> Stephen: YOU CAN SAY STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE A
JOURNALIST.
>> BUT I CAN CONFRONT TRUMP.
>> Stephen: YOU DID CONFRONT TRUMP AUGUST 15 LAST YEAR.
YOU GOT TOSSED OUT OF A PRESS CONFERENCE.
WHAT HAPPENED?
WHAT DID YOU DO?
>> I SENT HIM A HALF-WRITTEN NOTE WITH MY CELL PHONE NUMBER
ASKING FOR AN INTERVIEW, THEN I LEARNED MY FIRST LESSON WHICH IS
YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER TO DONALD
TRUMP.
>> Stephen: DID HE ANNOUNCE IT?
>> HE PUBLISHED IT ON THE INTERNET.
SO I SAID, OKAY, MR. TRUMP, GIVE ME A MOMENT.
SO TWO MONTHS LATER HE HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE AND WE HAD ALL
THESE QUESTIONS TO ASK HIM.
HE WANTS TO DEPORT 11 MILLION.
I RAISED MY HAND, I ASKED A QUESTION, HE DIDN'T LIKE IT.
HE MOVED HIS MOUTH IN A STRANGE WAY --
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: YES.
HE CALLED HIS BODY GUARD AND EJECTED ME FROM THE PRESS
CONFERENCE.
THE ONLY OTHER PERSON WHO PREVENTED ME FROM ASKING A
QUESTION WITH A BODY GUARD WAS FIDEL CASTRO A FEW YEARS BEFORE.
>> Stephen: DO YOU SEE ANY SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO OF
THEM?
>> CAN YES, OF COURSE.
WELL, THEY DON'T LIKE THE PRESS.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
THEY USE A BODY GUARD TO THROW YOU OUT OF PLACES.
>> Stephen: ANY RELIEF, LIKE, I GOT TO LEAVE THE PRESS
CONFERENCE?
>> NO BECAUSE AFTER THAT HE REALIZED HE MADE A MISTAKE AND
ALLOWED ME TO GO BACK.
HE WIE HAD A BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
HE WANTS TO DEPORT 11 MILLION PEOPLE.
THAT'S A HORROR.
CAN YOU IMAGINE?
THAT'S DEPORTING 11 MILLION IN TWO YEARS.
THAT'S DEPORTING 15,000 PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY, FILLING UP
30 747s IN 24 HOURS.
HE COULD START A NEW AIRLINE WITH THAT.
>> Stephen: HE STARTED THAT.
TRUMP AIRLINES, WE'LL SEND YOU BACK.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: DO YOU THINK TRUMP
IS AN ANOMALY WITH WHAT MANY ARE CALLING RACIST LANGUAGE OR DO
YOU THINK HE'S EXPRESSING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY
EXISTING.
>> I THINK IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW BUT HE HAS ALLOWED WHITE
SUPREMACIST GROUPS AND NEO-NAZIS TO EXPRESS OPINIONS AND
PREJUDICES THAT BEFORE THEY WERE ONLY SAYING TO THEMSELVES IN
THEIR PARTIES OR IN THEIR BEDROOMS.
NOW IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.
>> Stephen: YOUR NEW DOCUMENTARY IS CALLED "HATE
RISING," AND WE HAVE A CLIP HERE OF YOU TALKING TO I BELIEVE A
MEMBER OF THE KLAN.
>> IMPERIAL WIZARD, YEAH.
>> Stephen: JIM.
WHITE IS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER RACE.
>> HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?
BASED ON WHAT?
>> I JUST SAID IT.
THAT'S HOW I CAN SAY IT.
>> BASED ON WHAT?
GOD.
WE'RE GOD'S PEOPLE.
>> ISN'T THAT RACISM?
THAT'S NOT RACISM.
THAT'S FACT.
>> Stephen: WHERE DOES ONE GO TO FIND THE KLAN?
>> JUST AN HOUR AWAY FROM DALLAS-FORT WORTH.
THIS ROWDY -- >> Stephen: THAT'S HIS NAME?
WELL, NOT HIS REAL NAME, BUT ROWDY --
( LAUGHTER ) -- HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH
ME.
HE TOLD ME, AS YOU SAW THAT, JUST BECAUSE HE'S WHITE AND I'M
LATINO THAT HE WAS SUPERIOR TO ME.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE WHITER THAN HE IS.
( LAUGHTER ) >> I DON'T THINK HE'S --
>> Stephen: HE DOESN'T ACCEPT THAT?
>> NO.
>> Stephen: YOU MAKE ANDERSON COOPER LOOK SUNTANNED
( LAUGHTER ) >> TALKING ABOUT WHITE
SUPREMACISTS, I ALSO WENT TO OHIO AND THERE WERE ABOUT 30
NEO-NAZIS AND THEY WERE BURNING A SWASTIKA.
I COULDN'T TALK FOR THREE HOURS.
THE PRODUCER AND DIRECTOR, THEY DIDN'T LET ME TALK FOR THREE
HOURS.
>> Stephen: WHY WOULDN'T THE PRODUCER LET YOU TALK?
>> BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SAFE.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T MAKE SMALL TALK WITH WHITE PRESENTLY
CYSTS.
YOU DON'T HAVE THEM WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE COLOR.
>> Stephen: I THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE.
( LAUGHTER ) EXACTLY.
>> AND THEN I HAVE AN ACCENT.
EVERY TIME I CALL AN 800 NUMBER, I GET TRANSFERRED TO THE WRONG
EXTENSION OR DISCONNECTED.
>> Stephen: YES.
YOU'VE GOT TO PUSH ONE FOR ENGLISH, YOU KNOW THAT.
>> RIGHT.
SO IT WAS DANGEROUS FOR ME TO BE THERE AND FOR THEM TO NOTICE
THAT I HAVE AN ACCENT.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO BE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER WORLD.
>> Stephen: STAY SAFE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Stephen: JORGE RAMOS.
"HATE RISING" AIRS THIS SUNDAY, OCTOBER 23 ON FUSION AND
UNIVISION.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!