All hell would break loose, of course!
Hey everybody, welcome back to top 10 nerd.
I’m your host Kelly Paoli and today we’re diving into hypothetical land with a question
that crosses over multiple universes, or rather, the DC and Marvel ones.
What if the Joker wore the Carnage symbiote?
One is Batman’s arch nemesis, maniacal, homicidal and has a deadly sense of humor.
And the other is Venom’s archnemesis, who, actually, is also maniacal, homicidal and
has a deadly sense of humour.
Except he’s less sophisticated in his approach when it comes to shedding blood.
He’s more of a let’s eat your brains and write my name in your blood on this wall over
here kinda fellow.
Hence why this question is so darn intriguing.
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Now, back to the carnage!
If the Joker were to ever wear the carnage symbiote, that would only ever happen if the
DC and Marvel universes were merging for a cross over.
So needless to say, the likelihood of this ever occurring is incredibly slim.
But if it were to happen, how would it go down?
What would Carnage Joker be like?
Let’s start off by taking a look at the two characters of interest here, and what
their stand alone personalities are already like.
The Joker, who first appeared in comics back in 1940 in issue 1 of Batman, wasn’t always
the sinister sinner he is today.
Much like Batman himself, when he was first created, he was darker in nature, but thanks
to the Comics Code Authority and the silver age, was really dumbed down to being a prankster.
That eventually changed, though, and the Joker we love and know today is a complete psychopath
who lacks empathy, doesn’t have a conscience and is not concerned with morality in any
sense.
He has an obsession with Batman, a love for chaos, is often fixated on death, and his
criminality is designed only to continue his constant ceaseless game with Batman.
Moving on to Carnage!
Carnage’s personality was largely shaped by his very first host.
Cletus Kassidy.
When Carnage first appeared on the scene, Cletus was sharing a prison cell with Eddie
Brock.
Brock, being incarcerated, re-bonded with Venom, which is how he broke out of prison.
But Venom did something that his host was unaware of.
Klyntar, which is the name of the symbiote species, are not sentimental when it comes
to their offspring.
They release their seeds to birth the offspring and immediately abandon them.
This could also be seen as a means of survival, since a Klyntar offspring is always innately
stronger than its parent symbiote.
So Venom dropped off one of his seeds while breaking Eddie out of prison, and didn’t
think to tell him since this is normal for Klyntar to do.
What Venom didn’t anticipate was that the symbiote he just birthed would bond with Cletus
Kassidy, who was probably one of the worst individuals he could have bonded with.
To say that Cletus Kassidy had a troubled past prior to the Carnage symbiote entering
his life would be an under statement.
Kassidy killed his grandmother by pushing her down the stairs.
He tortured his mother’s dog.
He killed both his parents, all while he was a kid.
As an orphan, he was sent to the St Estes Home for Boys where he was bullied often by
staff and other kids, so in revenge he murdered a slew of them, pushed a girl who refused
to date him in front of a bus, and burnt down the orphanage.
By the time he was at Ryker’s Island, he was serving 11 consecutive life sentences.
This is when Eddie Brock became his cell mate, and the two did not get along, with Brock
even beating down on him a few times, disgusted by Kassidy’s world view.
After Brock broke out and Kassidy bonded with Carnage, he went on a killing spree with the
intention to use his new powers to fulfill his murderous desires.
His first victim outside of prison he selected from a telephone book randomly.
It’s believed that because of Kassidy’s insanity, Carnage’s strength and abilities
exceed many of the other symbiotes out there, including his father, who he is innately stronger
than.
As Carnage has put it about Kassidy, I quote, “I was hollowed out inside.
Empty.
Just like my other.
We were both sick.
Because we were incomplete.
But not anymore.
We healed each other.
Made each other whole.
Neither one of us can survive without the other.
Forget host.
Forget symbiote.
There is only Carnage.”
So, clearly, the Joker and Carnage would be a match made in heaven for one another.
A very beneficial symbiotic relationship, that’s for sure.
So!
How would this bonding occur?
We see this bonding as a result of one of two occurrences.
After the DC and Marvel worlds merge, Joker finds out about the symbiotes and Carnage
in particular, and bonds with him as a means of really giving Batman some trouble.
After all, that’s his main MO in most cases; many of his actions surround that obsession
with the dark knight.
Having Carnage would also go a long way in maintaining criminal dominance over Gotham.
He was already such a superior threat, but with Carnage in his skin, he’s essentially
going to become a one man army.
The other means of this occurring is that Carnage seeks out the most demented individual
in the DC universe to bond with in order to get whatever it is his dark little symbiote
heart desires.
And who better to bond with than the Joker if that’s his requirements?
He’ll go along with whatever crap the Joker wants to do, as long as he gets his fair share
of kills out of it.
Ah oh by how brutal those kills would be!
Combined with some of Joker’s favourites in his bag of tricks, the combination of these
two would actually make for a really frightening figure.
Now considering how deadly a threat Joker already is without super powers, giving him
the symbiote abilities via bonding with Carnage is something that’s pretty darn terrifying.
Think of what he’d be capable of doing from a physical stand point.
But perhaps whats more curious than his new found strength is how Joker and Carnage would
cope with one another.
Another interesting aspect to consider is how other symbiotes in the past have dealt
with bonding with insane individuals.
When Venom bonded with Deadpool, which was revealed to occur just moments prior to Spider-Man
bonding with the symbiote for the first time, we learned that Venom wasn’t a fan of Deadpool
because of Wade’s level of sanity.
Dude is off his rocker.
It jumped ship real quick.
While we think that the Joker and Carnage would actually be a pretty solid bond despite
Joker’s insanity, it would be interesting to see who tries to dominate over whom.
Joker has an iron will.
Just look at his history with Batman.
Despite being completely insane, he could easily manage to manipulate a symbiote to
his will.
Carnage aint any symbiote though.
That being said, the Joker has no issue with murder, and Carnage would likely behave as
long as the Joker kept killing.
Ultimately though, considering how Batman has the OP joy of plot armour, it seems likely
that after the first encounter, he’d mosey on back to the bat cave, come up with a plan
to defeat Carnage Joker, using a sonic based attack or extreme heat in order to remove
Carnage and Joker’s bond.
He’d probably think up a nifty way to contain Carnage, too.
And Joker would move on to his next plan to screw with Bats.
He most definitely wouldn’t try to kill Batman as Carnage anyway, since there’d
be no fun in that.
But there’s a very good chance he’d try to kill off a member of the Bat Family while
having his symbiote powers.
So, what do you guys think?
Would you ever want to see a Carnage version of the Joker?
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