hi guys Kirk and Jayson here with Kirk Giordano plastering, explaining something that we don't
generally, do for folks as a rule, but I did it on my own and this is what's necessary if you're
going to tile stairs or decks. Now this fella who owns this house it just happens to be my neighbor
good guy, a good buddy of mine. He did his stairs last year and I said, dude good luck, it's going
to last a season, what'd he do wrong? Same thing I did wrong about 10 times when I was learning
all this stuff, these are two by twelves you put a two by 12 depending on what kind of wood that's
not really my strong point, they cup, now this piece of wood right here is cupped like this,
so is this one in the top when they're cupped meaning they hold water, why did they cup? well
because it's a two by twelve generally you put two by sixes next to each other, the rain
goes through them and they don't cup or you get a monster piece like a header. But these tend to
cup, so what I told them is next year man, when you see this cup, and what we'll do is replace it,
we'll do to yours is what we did to mine and what Jason is doing, he's got, Jason's actually doing
all this work I'm just going to explain it, we've got a membrane, so I told him to go pick up the best
membrane you could find a peeling stick, so he came back with this it good membrane it's for shower
pans, decks, so that's what I'm talking about, Jay already spent about three hours just doing this
putting on this peeling stick like right there on the fence that is a real drag and it's a hot
day, if it's a hot day it sticks to itself, it's a nightmare to put it on but what we've done so far
is two days ago I pressure washed this and all the paint came off and he says, wow, I use the shitty
paint huh? I said actually dude, you used some great paint this bottom step is concrete I use 3000 psi
that's pretty strong plus I had a turbo tip on it, I couldn't pull any of this paint off this block.
bottom step because it's concrete. l said, dude, you used great paint but the wood is what failed.
because the wood heats up and then it expands, contracts, right here in the Sun and it's hot
even right now it's about 80 degrees, so what I did is I pressure washed it and then yesterday
I came and I put some caulking in all of these big gaps, and to correct his carpentry, this fella
is a 40-year mechanic and Damn he as good at carpentry but he's about as good as carpentry as I am,
We both ain't all that great, so, anyway, we had to fill the gap, now what Jason's doing is this
product here it's a peeling and stick, he's doing it now the wire, what kind of wire do you use? you
could use expanded metal mesh-like we're using. this is what I I tell folks. you know this isn't what
we do for a living but I know how to do it.
This expanded metal mesh is self-furred it's dimpled, which means when we put our stucco on it, even stapled down, it's still the stucco is going to go below
it, it's going to furr itself, here's another tip guys, see how these stairs right here have this
ridge? well I'm getting rid of that, too much work we're just going to put our stucco from here and
take it right here, we are going to put corners on here and then I'm going to make certain that I put
a slope on this, not a slope that you can fall down and crack your head open, but a gentle slope just
so the water doesn't sit here, oh let me see I think I covered all the bases, Jay is going to
finish doing this grace. I'll probably help him with that because it's hot right now the sun's
directly on it, and that stuffs a nightmare I've done about 100 boxes of it, unless you got two
people you're holding these big pieces it sticks together, the wire here. Jay already cut a whole
bunch of pieces, he put it down stapled it put the The next one on top stapled that and of course all
these staple holes, get caulking over it, this is just a first part of the stucco we're going
to use a common cement. what does common cement? it says common plaster on the bags that's a that's a
really strong cement because it's it's not going to be concrete with the rocks in it, but stucco
will work too if we go with the common, it's not great for spreadability, but I can spread it
over this. I'm what, I'm looking for is strength. I'm going to go about Oh 3/4 of an inch thick now
what we did on the top deck here well what we did on the top deck about eight years ago, for my buddy
is the deck leaked like a sieve, so he said Kirk, I've got people living downstairs, can you fix it?
I. said sure, we put the same product on it we did wire two coats of cement than we actually did
an acrylic finish on here. He says well, Kirk, what's the difference between putting an acrylic finish
on it versus tile? I said dude, drop an egg on this and try to clean it the next day, drop a glass of
wine on it acrylic finishes are made for walls, not surfaces like this, but since he's my buddy and I
have all these acrylics leftover from other jobs, we're going to do it for him until he decides to
actually, place some tile on it we're gonna walk across the street for a minute another project.
Another neighbor, drag, to have so many neighbors. Anyway he said, Kirk, you got any good paint I could
put on the porch? I said no man, I got some acrylics you could put on, he did this three years ago it's
just wood, it's acrylic over the wood it's prepped properly and I told him every two years you're
going to have to keep putting it over it when it opens because its acrylic finishes are really not
made for wood, it's made for what we're about to do over there but it is 50 to 70 times thicker than
paint so anyway I wouldn't advise this, but he's my neighbor and he saw all my excess materials. so he says, Kirk come on, quick give me some of that stuff. Rather than throw it in my dumpster, I give it
to him, over here this is what my buddy Carl, should do, no Dennis over there he didn't do that, Holla
ladies, ah I see Toki here, that means Jason's going to leave soon for lunch, this is what we
are talking about what we're doing over at Carl's house is just the base, you do your membrane here
and all the way up there, "Hello girls," all the way up to on top of there we waterproofed this whole
thing and Jackie and I, actually did all this little bitty travertine tiles, here's a tip guys,
go with a big one, lasts a lot longer any way we're going to take you back over here Jason's going to
finish doing all that all that nasty prep work, which is the grace membrane the wire the corner
then he's going to mix me up some cement I got to get busy and plaster it out real quick, well show
you that when we get to it, alright guys, those of you who comment saying, Kirk's not a professional,
hey we just turned Jason's jukebox down, man we were playing some, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Freebird going
along, we have to stop just for you guys, okay, we're doing these stairs I forgot where we left
off yesterday because by the time. Jay did all this membrane and wired this up, it was getting
dark plus he still had to caulk all these little staple holes, do you have to caulk staple holes
on a membrane not really, if it's on a wall but if it's on a pan such as a shower or a deck you should.
I'm gonna get jay to bring these other buckets up for me because he's stronger than I am, I
just like to apply, anyway guys while he's doing theres a lot of different membranes, this particular
company makes about 10 different membranes, I told the owner go get the thickest membrane you can
get it's a sixteenth of an inch thick they also make the sick of membranes they make the DuPont
membranes, they make all kind,s of it use whatever caulking is compatible with your membrane and
should you use Durock for the stairs or you're bathroom? You can this is 10 times better, 10 times
faster especially if you know how to use the tools, anyway guys okay see all this mud here I already
did these top steps got to have something to hold on to when you're doing this stuff, okay these are
at an angle, these are supposed to be at a little bit of a downward slant, that way they're not holding
water, okay, here's how I do it, guys first I'm gonna get my corners, hey baby, i'ma get my corners, you
know I'm at home if my wife is right there, all right I'm actually at my neighbor's house we get
there get these corners get these corners, fill them up, fill them up fill them up, tight because
those are an inch get your corners here get my other corner here fill it up fill these corners
up all right now here these are going to be at an angle and I'm going to be using a Darby to make
sure I get that angle and some of you guys that are familiar with my work, they say, "Kirk", you're not
a real plaster because you use a swimming pool trowel, actually doesn't matter the trowel, but it
does on this, I cannot use a swimming pool trowel to do this properly, I need some serious corners, okay
s,o I'm coming over here, let me see I don't want to get in my own way to show you guys how to do
this, nothing to it follow the contours of what's the wire, Jays, did the hard part already and he
gave me a template, basically now all I'm doing here guys is, is using a little bit of skill
and using common sense, have I done this before? Absolutely about 20 times, have
I failed before? Absolutely, when I say failed what I mean is, guys, I mean have I done it
where water stayed on the step and created my own swimming pool,r that cupping effect that
I was talking about yesterday, yes, I have done that too and that's how you learn you can do
this with a template, or you can do it like I do, I'm doing it with a darby, you're doing
it with a Darby then when I'm on the walls I generally have a slight curve in this, doing a
straight edge for here I got get my curve out curves out, okay I'm gonna hug the bottom of it
because I want these stairs to have a slight kick in them so I'm gonna go tight here, we'll
go tight here now here's the real tricky part guys, and I've had problems with this before in
the past, I have had to come back and reskim it. You don't want this to hold water, so really
got to know what you're doing, I had a piece of wood that I put here, and it's just a template
but that's too easy, so I'm going to use a Darby, now this Darby, you come down at an angle,e and you
got to remember. This cannot hold water or it shouldn't hold water, guys if it holds water
that means you're going to be back the next day, putting a skim on it and cement stucco's
on stucco's don't hold very well for walking on guys, so you better get it right the first time,
all right, if you're not sure take it sideways where you can see your slant boom and come here
if your ends are a little bit or of course you're not sure call us, because, whether or not, you do
your membrane, will come and stucco it. if you do your bathroom shower, the same way, the pan, we'll come
and the stucco, so you could apply your tile over it, piece of cake, okay, that's one done we're
going to drop down and do the exact same thing, oka,y see where we're at kind of looking at it get
my square trowel where I got a couple holidays and lookout and see what's cockeyed, and know where to
begin, okay ,I want to start here want to start here get that so-called 45 just right acts as
a kickboard, guys, and if some falls out, grab some of your spare stuff, and put it on here, spare stuff
put it on there, okay kickboard here we go once, here, now again we're back to this right
here you could try doing this like I do sometimes you give you a bit of a template where you know
where the hell you're at, or close to it because again this cannot hold water you want the water
gradual, but you don't want the stairs too steep otherwise, someone can kill themselves, especially
on a rainy day, I have my bucket of water here, if the darby gets too stiff, just take that water
there clean that guy, this is a serrated darby, because I want this to set fast, because I'm not climbing these
stairs again, maybe when it's all se,t I can come up when it's set I can come up and hit it with
a hard rubber float, but that's it for those two guys right there now again,n I've done this a lot
of times before guys, so I got a good idea, if it's not right I got to come back with some, Poly-Bond,"
and fill a hole, we don't want swimming pool guys, Jason got to give me some more cement, but he
can't while he's holding that camera, so what he's going to do is give me some more, we'll finish it
all off and show you, oh by the way, to show you one last thing cleaning my edges because I'm out
coming back up her,e I'll come back up having to see on my own work, okay, Jay, give me some cement.
Alright, guys, I got my last two bucketfuls by the the way we used four-wheel barrels, I got my baby, we
live across the street,t she's sitting on this Dry-Vit product, which we're going to use after this
cures, but you can do tile and of course, Dennis, my neighbor my worst critic, man, he says, Kirk, oh
I see your metal corners, disregard that, here's the best part guys, excuse me the easy part now
I can lean on this, well, I'm not having to use my whole body we fill these corners up, how easy is
that? Now guys, I got something to lean on put all my weight on here lean on that, boom take it over
there now this part here easy peasy, especially when I don't have to hang over something so
that just basically, mimicking what I did up top there, but with the use of this handy dandy rail.
Man, that Sho-Nuff makes life easier, boom we take it here finish that up right there come on this
other side, I'll have that coffee in a minute baby, see my wife, she loves me, she brought me
a coffee, pretty much okay, finishing up finishing up you guys want to see something funny, show the
pillow thing my buddy here got a couple vicious little poodles, man they're the nicest poodles
when they're outside, but when they're inside, oh they try to get you every time and jump on you,
scare you? you ought to know Dennis, oh yeah they're wild all right, yeah, they bit me too,
vicious little dogs and Jay was here yesterday and said damn dad, first part all day yesterday, was
listening to them dogs, they just don't shut up. Well, they didn't shut up for all
the time I was here, so I just went ahead and put a pillow over there, I found on the street.
Okay, I'm gonna put an ending on this guy's but you see where you're going with this stuff, it's
all about the right Darby, you got to know your materials you got to know what you're doing and
yeah I can, Jay and I can do the Cement work in about four hours maybe five, the prep work took Jay all
day, to do that prep work because there's a lot to know about how to wire it properly and these
corners are my guides that Jay put on without those guides I'd be here forever trying to make
those, I could make the inner corner here, I can't make this outer corner anyway guys you see where
we're going with that from me, Jay, me, lovely wife. We thank you for watching and we'll see you guys
on the next one.
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