all right before we begin today let's review our Socratic seminar rules listen
first participate don't dominate your person who normally like to have a lot
to say remember to yield to others we love to disagree sometimes but remember
not to be disagreeable and we really want to make sure we're keeping focused
on our text or the question that someone else has raised and also you all are
very good at this but remember not to talk over or under you don't want to
talk to your neighbor we want to address the whole group okay we have a piece of
graphic art today it's by an artist named MC Escher and I know you all have
seen a lot of his work this particular piece is called waterfall and before we
start talking I just like you to look at it for a minute and think about what do
you notice and also what what does it remind you of
can you think of anything that it reminds you of what do you notice and
want to sit remind shape of just sort of think about it for a minute all right
and my first question to you today is where is this place under one gets under
water water where would I be able
it's what Devante you see coral and that makes you think that it's underwater
yes again people scams I've done drying their clothes okay like the coral part
can be under underwater garden or something so maybe part of its
underwater did anybody have an idea that maybe it was somewhere besides
underwater do you might have a different idea
okay somewhere out in the desert because you can see in the background it doesn't
look very gassy maybe a few trees with you dishes for it about the dizzy think
it's on a desert okay I think it could be like underground because in the
background it's sort of going up higher and it the levels getting bigger
what about the waterfall that's the title of the piece you have some an idea
about the waterfall a woman's so that's the question about the waterfall do you
think it's running up up or down oh it looks like it's running up I think it's
running now because like you can see your
connection right here the little things the thing that spins in the water it
spins it up there and then it goes like that and it comes back down how do we
know what start go uphill it goes downhill when we'll show you so okay so
you think that it could not be running uphill at all okay time disagree with
both of them because if it if it's running downhill how would the waterfall
be going yeah it has to ran uphill to be a waterfall or the waterfalls going
backwards what makes the water run up the hill the water is probably starting
to flow and then the rest of it just does it so what do you think that this
is a real I do you think of fun I think it's like a fair to a fairy tale
why do you think it's like a harry's held Avante it's like no place where the
water starts at and we can't tow this up going down up sort of like an optical
illusion because can't really tell because it looks like it's just going
straight like a river but then there's a waterfall out the ferry and um the whole
thing could just be flat how could it be flat oh it probably actually couldn't
because the waterfall would be dropping from where it began so where it ended
the waterfall is going down and then maybe it's pushing it up like sandy said
and it just started all over again is that hard to tell which way the
waterfall is going how many people when you when you first looked at this
thought that it maybe could be a real place but now you've looked at a little
bit longer and you think well maybe it couldn't be a real place there some
places katroo were like these stairs leading to water and like they're like
place place that are like unexplained like the these things at the top and
this is little stairs and coral I'll be wondering about the coral
it's probably not underwater and um but if it's not underwater how is the club
coral flowing instead of like a fan under it if you can I want you how to
come in I take you to her because how would the plants be flowy and would they
just be dead because they're not water the entire picture is weird so who says
the Cole can't believe Christy what about you that were you thinking
something about to share with us there's like a gate there I think like people
that could go in there but how could they go into it um some of the people
think that there's like water in there oh maybe it's something else or if it is
coral that might sense there are a lot of weird things in this it could just be
like invisible water water we can't feel
because like the pictures you think you figured out what the picture is and then
there's something that like changes I agree with Isabella it's like you think
you figure it out and then you find and then you see something and it
and you think it's a whole totally different thing what some girls in a
little while we will do our seminar response thank you for an excellent
seminar and I'm going to keep this set because I think that we can keep talking
about it there's a lot more I think that way that you get to that we might want
to discuss