Hello folks Kirk here with Kirk Giordano plastering, my son Jason helping me with this
project as usual let me show you guys is how the wire that we use for this ceiling now you can call
it a ceiling a lid or a soffit those are the terms usually those three I get a lot of people they
say hey Jay what's a lid what's a soffit just a ceiling guys when we first got here a couple weeks
ago the fella had holes all over and he said what do you think we should do to tie it in I said take
it all off man take it all off let's go to stud to stud break out enough wire so we can do our tie-in
but he couldn't break out in here because he's on a stud man he's in a pocket so I told him just
leave it alone then do the best you can that's about all you can show you something this is a
continuous two inch vent for plastering or stucco now generally this vent goes on us on a ceiling
or a soffit like this but this particular one sticks out further than the stucco so this fella
went with these right here and we're just going to feather it in what I really want to show you guys
is the actual mesh we use for this because I get calls on this all the time and by the way a fella
contractor Kirk up there's so much cement all over the pipes back when I was working Union we had a
tommy gun and you spray it you spray these and all this mesh here see this particular mesh by
the way this is 3.4 mesh it's doesn't have any dimples it's not Salford it can go this way or
it can go this way and it'll curve to follow the curve that we want to do now when I was working
Union and already I cut myself just carrying this mesh back here when you're putting that stuff on
wear gloves it's it's sharp as razors when I was working Union they would put this mesh any other
kind of mesh on here and it would have paper back so when you shoot it on it didn't get all over the
pipes although it's not hurting the pipes I do remember those Union days fellows used to say
hobos and [ __ ] that's all I want to hear I don't want to hear your talk and just keep working glad
those days are gone anyhow let me show you some of the different soffit meshes sealing message
lid meshes okay this particular one here is a Salford what's that mean it's three point four
just like I'm using but when you have a solid backing okay say this wall here it's solid now
it's it's Salford right here meaning if you tack it down it holds it away from the wall that way
when you mud it the mud can mushroom over here and that's how it adheres over here I don't need the
Salford wire whether or not it's in long rows or spotted it comes in a lot of different ways where
it it pushes against a solid ceiling right here we have studs so again that's this is not necessary I
brought it out here to describe because I do get a lot of fellows who ask me the difference and I'll
show you one more thing while I'm at it I don't really need this rib laughs you say what's rib law
rib lath is generally the only time I use rib lath is when we have studs that are 24 inches apart say
now these studs right here 16 inches apart so I can use this 3.4 mesh on it but if it was 24
inches apart what would happen would be this okay I would I would put my mesh on here and because
we have such large holes if it were 24 inches as I put my first coat on it the first coat would push
in and then after I pull it off it would bounce back all the mud would cover me and yes I have had
that happen many times just full of mud the end of the day because they use the wrong wire they used
a wire for the walls you name it I have seen it anyhow this rib lath here it has these ribs here
which to cut about 3/8 of an inch it actually goes on where this way say for example this is
Riddler and the B there's a B right here this V Channel that's it should go on where when we're
plastering this B channel accepts our cement and then of course it mushrooms through or if it's on
a flat surface it still allows it to self fur now you know about four months ago we did a job and
the guy put it on where he had it backwards he had it on like this with these ribs right here where
they were facing this way well just pretend like this was on the ceiling and he had it where this
was shown and I looked at it and he said ball take me days to tear all that stuff off and redo it
can you do it I said man we could do it but we're going to get covered in mud and it's going to take
five times as long so what we did is because your trowel will hit these if you got your rib on left
wrong the trial will hit this and every trifle it will fall in your face so guys we're going to use
rib lath 24 inch centers this is great stuff for it but it's not necessary for this and you can go
vertical or horizontal with this it doesn't matter same with this you can go vertical or horizontal
doesn't matter meaning I can place this this way that way it really doesn't matter so we're going
to get started guys but I thought I'd point out a couple things because much easier for me to just
copy and paste a video and explain all this stuff to folks when they email me and say Kirk what's
the difference between the wire so hot that meant it's a good opportunity to explain it anyhow we're
going to get started like I say if you're going to do this stuff wear gloves I'm already bleeding
in a couple spots with just this area here where it's cut it's razor-sharp okay guys we're getting
ready to put this first piece on I already made my little notch here I'll show you something that
is so important okay once you got it where you want it say like right here the most important
thing is is to make sure this soffit is fastened on extremely tight and if you're one guy like I
usually do this myself I'll put a couple to hold it just in place right here then my other ones are
going to come here here what I don't want a bunch of pockets because what happens is say we got
a pocket here I go to plaster it and it goes up and when it comes down comes down in our face and
here's a tricky part to this edge here because it doesn't have this is what all it's called floating
an edge this side right here okay there's not a stud in here and the fella said Kirk should I put
a stead on I thought now we don't need a stud we'll make it work but put put some staples in
here now this is going to be soft so when I do my submit work when I come to that I'm going to have
these as issues because there's no studs here we prefer it where there's a stud everywhere and of
course on that this other vent here what I tend to do is place my staples where they need to be
and then I'm going to cut that stud out meaning not stud I'm sorry vent once I can see what I'm
doing I'll put it right there because I want it to be right on the vent if there's a half inch gap on
that vent down there I'm going to have a lot of trouble and yes I could go the other way too we
can do it too both ways but I do have another sheet and it's going to go from here here it's
going to overlap this one anyhow so I chose to do it this way and if you guys are going to work
on ceilings man use some kind of glasses I've got dark sunglass and I can hardly see but when
you're stapling the dust falls right in your face and in your eyes and even worse than that is I've
had a staple hit us a clip like a Simpson Strong Tie and come back and hit me in my face man look
like I got shot so always wear glasses alright guys just getting ready to cut this I thought I'd
show you this part too because there is a way to do this right in a wrong way first I fastened this
and I've hung about 5,000 sheets of this stuff in 30 years so there is a way to do it you put it on
and then you you find out where you want to be and as you notice these snips are bent at a certain
way they're not straight otherwise they'd have a harder time they're bent out a certain way means
I'm going to grab this sheet here bend it down a little bit and look at that vent right there and
cut it and again I don't want to be I don't want to be a half inch from this bit otherwise it'll
take me ten times as long the plastered I want to be right on the vent so what I do is try to
cut it a little long and we pull this piece here you get the idea we pull this and this will cut
your hands to the bone and this is razor sharp this stuff that's why I'm wearing these gloves
pull it you pull it you look up and you just cut it then after you got a cut where you want it you
bend it right up there and get it on so I'm going to go ahead and put this next next piece on but I
thought I'd show you folks there there are proper tools to bend this and cut it with them these are
it okay guys here's another tip if you could cut this on the bottom measure everything where you
need to be cut it on the ground rather because if you're cutting it upside down stuffs going in your
face and your eyes but if you can pre-measure everything and cut it on the ground remember
these snips are tilted and then you just pull it up like this it's easy peasy lemon squeezy now I
got a factory edge here this factory edge gives me a lot more strength than this nasty one I cut
now what I'm going to do is I'm going to use my factory edge for this vent area here because I'm
kind of sorry I didn't tell the guy give me a couple studs in here but anyway that's okay what
we do is we put the factory edge right here and it gives us more strength right here so when I
I'm going to be the fella plaster in this someday after our last inspection so this guy right here
I already this is kind of wiggling up here so you really got to make your plaster riche a lot more
cement than sand on doing ceilings otherwise it just keeps coming down anyhow that's my last tip
here we get it done I'm gonna put a corner there and I'll show it to you okay guys I'll show you
the ending on this I got this piece cut and what I want to do is squeeze it in here you always want
to cut this stuff a little too long rather than a little too short and you could I'd rather squeeze
it in here then have excess okay so tight that is that's pretty tight now guys if you have it
loose right here another tip you can take a drill with a machine screw and put a hex screw in here I
wished I would have brought my drill but next time I come to plaster it I will or you can do corner
aid and put it here double it up anyhow I'll show you this last piece get my ladder a little closer
and again it's all about getting it right in there and getting it tight so this is tight against here
so when I go to plaster this is not going to be such a nightmare for me anyway my name is Kirk,
Jason, on the camera as usual folks we thank you for watching I will see you guys on the next one