I WANT TO PROCEED TO THE OTHER
TOPIC THAT’S SO BIG THAT WE
BOOKED THESE GUESTS FOR.
DONALD TRUMP ENERGIZED BY
GIULIANI PROCLAIMING THERE IS
SOMEWAY HE MIGHT WIN.
WASHINGTON POST NOTING THAT
AFTER GIULIANI’S BIZARRE PRESS
CONFERENCE FILLED WITH UNSOURCED
CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND OTHER
PROBLEMS, TRUMP’S UNEVERENCOURAG
GIULIANI BACK AT IT TODAY.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO MEET WITH
THE PRESIDENT THIS AFTERNOON?
HE’S BRINGING IN SOME MICHIGAN
OFFICIALS.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS AFTERNOON?
>> IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THEM AND
THE PRESIDENT.
I’M THERE JUST TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THEY HAVE BECAUSE I
KNOW -- I PROBABLY KNOW THE CASE
BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE MYSELF.
>> HE DID NOT ACTUALLY GO TO
THAT MEETING BECAUSE IN A
RELATED STORY THERE WAS CONCERN
ABOUT COVID EXPOSURE, PEOPLE WHO
KNEW GIULIANI LONG BEFORE HE
SERVED AS TRUMP’S LAWYER ARE
OPENLY PUBLICLY BEMOANING WHO
HE’S BECOME.
A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL SAYING
THIS IS AN ABLSSOLUTE EXPLETIVE
SHOW.
ANOTHER SAYING IT’S SADDENING TO
SEE WHAT HE’S BECOME.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT’S A
SHOW?
WHEN GIULIANI IS UNDER OATH,
IT’S A DIFFERENT STORY.
WHEN THE JUDGE ASKED ABOUT VOTER
FRAUD, GIULIANI SAID QUOTE THIS
IS NOT A FRAUD CASE.
CONTRAST THAT TO HIM WHEN IT’S
SHOW TIME.
>> I KNOW YOU KEEP REPORTING
FALSELY THAT WE HAVE NO
EVIDENCE.
YOU CAN’T SAY THERE IS NO
EVIDENCE.
THIS IS WHAT WE CALL EVIDENCE.
YOU’RE CHEATING.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MICKEY
MOUSE OR A DEAD PERSON.
ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES.
WE ARE GOING TO PUT REPUBLICAN
IB
INSPECTORS IN PINS AND GIVE US
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE IT IN
COURT AND WE WILL.
WE’LL GO TO COURT AND PROVE IT
IN COURT.
THE CENSORSHIP IS ALMOST AS
DANGEROUS THAN THE ELECTION
FRAUD WE’RE REVEALING.
>> TURNING TO BLAKE.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF POLITICAL
EXPERIENCE.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING QUITE
LIKE THIS?
>> NO, AND I HAVE TO SAY, I
MEAN, THIS IS -- FOR THOSE OF US
WHO HAVE BEEN IN NEW YORK
POLITICS FOR A LONG TIME AND SAW
RUDY GIULIANI 20 YEARS AGO OR
SO, THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT
PERSON.
HE ALWAYS HAD VIEWS THAT WERE
DIVERGENT FROM OTHERS BUT THIS
CONDUCT AND MISBEHAVIOR SEEMS
OFF THE WALL.
>> HOW WOULD YOU CONTRAST IT?
YOU WORKED FOR SCHUMER, CLINTON,
OBAMA.
HOW DO YOU CONTRAST IT TO THE
TYPE OF LAWYERS THEY BRING TO
BIG CASES LIKE WHETHER OR NOT
THEY WIN THE RACE?
>> I MEAN, LOOK, USUALLY, YOU
KNOW, I’M NOT A LEGAL EXPERT THE
WAY YOU ARE BUT MY UNDERSTANDING
LAWYERS USUALLY APPROACH THESE
THINGS WITH SOME AMOUNT OF
PREPARATION AND MAYBE HAVE
EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR
CLAIMS.
GENERALLY, YOU MAKE SURE YOUR
MAKEUP ISN’T RUNNING BEFORE YOU
STEP ON STAGE.
THESE ARE THINGS YOU TEACH YOU
IN YOUR FIRST YEAR OF LAW
SCHOOL.
>> I ASK YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE ON
THE CLIENTS’ SIDE OF WORKING
WITH TOP FLIGHT, YOU KNOW,
SENIOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND
POLITICIANS AND IF THIS IS THE
LAWYER YOU’RE SENDING OUT AT
THIS STAGE, I THINK THAT ALONE
IS TELLING AND LIBBY, THIS IS
NOT PLAYING THAT WELL AROUND THE
NATION.
I WANT TO JUST SHOW SOME OF THE
LATE NIGHTEGTGHT COMICS GETTING
IT ABSOLUTELY ROASTING.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> ISN’T IT FUNNY THE ONES WHO
SHOUT FAKE NEWS THE LOUDEST HAVE
FAKE HEADS?
>> WHEN RUDY WAKES UP IN THE
MORNING HIS PILLOW MUST LOOK
LIKE A ROAR SHACK TEST.
THEY HAD TO CLEAN HIM OFF IN
THOSE COMMERCIALS FOR DAWN DISH
SOAP.
>> DO WE HAVE ANOTHER ANGLE ON
THAT?
IT’S EASY TO MAKE FUN OF RUDY
HERE BUT ALSO VERY SATISFYING.
>> I MEAN, LIBBY, DO YOU REALLY
WANT THE LAST TV MOMENTS OF THE
CAMPAIGN FOR A TV PRESIDENT TO
BE THE PUNCH LINE, TO BE THE
JOKE?
>> I MEAN, ARI, YOU COULD NOT
SCRIPT THIS.
IF YOU PITCHED THIS TO YOUR
AGENT FOR A PLOT, A LOT WOULDN’T
FLY BECAUSE IT WOULD SEEM TOO
UNREALISTIC.
THE THING IS, WE CAN’T GET
DISTRACTED BY THE WORDS "THE
WASHINGTON POST" FACT CHECKER IS
LOOKING WHEN THEY LOOK AT WORDS
RUDY SAID LIKE CRAZY, CONSPIRACY
THEORY, BIZARRE.
THE MAKEUP IS THE METAPHOR FOR
THE MELTDOWN THAT WAS RUDY
GIULIANI BUT ALSO WAS THE LEGAL
CASE AND YOU MAKE SUCH AN
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
HE’S NOT MAKING ARGUMENTS IN
COURT BECAUSE HE’S UNDER OATH
AND THERE IS AN EXPECTATION.
THERE IS A LEGAL NECESSITY TO
TELL THE TRUTH AND IF THERE
IS -- IF THIS JUST KEEPS GOING
AND KEEPS GOING AND THERE HAS TO
BE SOME SORT OF LEGAL RESORTING
TO STOPPING WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS
DOING, WHAT YOU SAY IN COURT,
YOU KNOW, CARRIES A VERY
DIFFERENT WEIGHT IN TERMS OF THE
PENALTY YOU PAY THAN WHAT YOU’RE
SAYING PERHAPS AT A CROWDED
PRESS CONFERENCE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THERE IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT
POINT.
WE HIT THIS.
WE’RE DELLIBERATELY REINFORCING
IT.
GIVEN THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE
FAILED PLOT IN MICHIGAN WERE
WELCOMED TO THE WHITE HOUSE, I
THINK EVEN THOUGH I’VE TRIED TO
BE VERY CLEAR WITH EVERYONE
ABOUT THE LIMITS OF ALL THESE
THOUGH AT TRICKSK
THEATER, THE SUBSTANCE IS DEAD
SERIOUS AND SO TO REMIND
EVERYONE, BLAKE, FOR YOUR
ANALYSIS ON THAT COMPONENT AND
THE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, I’M
TRYING TO TOSS ONLY CERTAIN
VOTES, ONLY VOTES OUT OF
DETROIT.
WE WANT TO SHOW AGAIN WHAT
HAPPENED IN THAT FAILED CLASH IN
AND AROUND WAYNE COUNTY. TAKE A LOOK.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> I WILL OPEN THE MOTION TODE
DESERT
DESERTFY.
>> WE’RE GOING TO CERTIFY THIS
ELECTION THE WAY WE SUPPOSED TO.
WE NOT GOING TO BE PLAYING
GAMES.
THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> SHAME ON YOU.
SHAME ON YOU FOR LEADING TO THIS
LEVEL OF CORRUPTION.
YOU HAVE DISAOCHO VOIED YOUR
RIGHT TO SEAT IN THE SEAT YOU
OCCUPY.
YOU ARE A DISGRACE.
>> BLAKE?
>> YEAH, IT’S DISGUSTING.
IT’S CORRUPT.
IT’S RACIST.
WE WERE JOKING AROUND OR I WAS
ABOUT RUDY’S MAKEUP BUT LET’S BE
SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, THE
ELECTION IS NOT REALLY THAT
CLOSE.
JOE BIDEN WON BY MORE THAN 70
ELECTORAL VOTES.
THIS GAMBIT ISN’T GOING TO WORK.
LET’S BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING
WE LEARNED.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND MANY
MAJOR FIGURES WITHIN THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY WERE CONTENT
AND HAPPY TO TRY TO UNDO AN
ELECTION.
THEY WANTED TO OVERTURN THE
RESULT.
THEY WERE SERIOUS.
THEY WANT TO TAKE IT AS FAR AS
THEY CAN GO AND NOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE TRY TO STOP THEM.
NOT GOING TO WORK IN THIS CASE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THIS WAS A
MUCH CLOSER RACE IF THIS WAS A
ONE STATE DIFFERENCE, A FEW
ELECTORAL VOTES?
THEN THIS WOULD REALLY BECOME A