SHOPPED.
NO WAY HE DROPPED THAT
QUICK.
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU STOP
PLAYING YOU CAN.
BRIAN: "NEW YORK TIMES"
PUBLISHED OP-ED OVER THE
WEEKEND SUGGESTING THE
PUBLIC SHAMING OF BORDER
PATROL AGENTS.
THE ARTICLE SAYS, QUOTE:
LAWYERS HAVE AGENT NAMES
JOURNALISTS REPORTING NAMES
PHOTOS AND EVEN VIDEOS.
THESE AGENTS' ACTIONS SHOULD
BE PUBLICIZED.
NOT ARGUMENT DOING IT'S
ABOUT EXPOSURE OF THEIR
PARTICIPATION IN ATROCITIES.
SOUNDS LIKE DOING TO HIM
WHICH HE HAS DEALT WITH
FIRSTHAND.
FORMER ICE DIRECTOR TOM
HOMAN.
HAVE YOU READ AND HEARD
ABOUT THIS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
LET'S EXPOSE THE PERSONAL
INFORMATION OF THOSE WORKING
THE BORDER.
>> IT'S DISGUSTING.
IT HAPPENED TO ME WHEN I WAS
DIRECTOR.
THEY DOCKED ME MY HOME
ADDRESS AND I HAD 80
PROTESTERS AT MY HOUSE ON A
SUNDAY MORNING.
>> IT'S RIDICULOUS.
WHOEVER WROTE THIS OP-ED
OBVIOUSLY HAS NEVER SPOKEN
TO A BORDER PATROL AGENT.
AND SHE IS PUSHING A FALSE
NARRATIVE.
THIS IS ABOUT BORDER PATROL
AGENTS TEARING CHILDREN
APART AND NOT TAKING CARE OF
CHILDREN PROPERLY.
I WAS THERE ON THE BORDER A
COUPLE YEARS AGO.
THESE BORDER PATROL AGENTS
ARE TAKING SICKNESS HOME TO
THEIR OWN FAMILIES.
THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF SICK
CHILDREN AND CHANGING
DIAPERS AND MAKING FORMULA.
THESE BORDER PATROL AGENTS
DID NOT SIGN UP FOR THIS.
MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND SONS
AND DAUGHTERS THEMSELVES.
THEY ARE DOING TREMENDOUS
JOB AND NEED TO BE RESPECTED
FOR IT.
BRIAN: THEY SHOULD BE LAUDED
THE FACT THEY ARE VILIFIED
IS UNBELIEVABLE.
IT GETS WORSE.
THEY SAID THIS IN THE "NEW
YORK TIMES" EDITORIAL THE
DESIRE TO AVOID THIS KIND OF
SOCIAL CHANGE
SOCIAL SHANGE
SOCIAL SHAMEE
SOCIAL SHAME MAY BE ENOUGH
TO PERSUADE SOME AGENTS TO
QUIT OR MAY HINDER THE
RECRUITMENT OR REPLACEMENTS.
>> THE FACILITY IN FLORIDA
WHERE CHILDREN ARE BEING
DETAINED BY HOMELAND
SERVICES.
WHO ARE THOSE CHILDREN?
NEVER TAKEN FROM PARENTS.
THESE CHILDREN ENTERED THE
CHILDREN ILLEGALLY ON THEIR
OWN.
THEIR PARENTS ALREADY
SEPARATED THEMSELVES.
WHEN THAT 2500 CHILDREN WERE
SEPARATE PRESIDENT AND
EVERYBODY WENT CRAZY OVER.
NO ONE TALKED ABOUT THE
15,000 CHILDREN THAT WERE
SEPARATED BY THEIR PARENTS,
PUT IN HANDS OF CRIMINAL
ORGANIZATIONS, SMUGGLED INTO
THE UNITED STATES.
BRIAN: 51,000 SINCE I
BELIEVE NOVEMBER HAVE COME
HERE UNACCOMPANIED MINORS.
AND WHEN PEOPLE SEE THOSE
FACILITIES AND THEY SAY
REPUBLICANS PUT KIDS IN
CAGES, WHAT SHOULD THEY KNOW
ABOUT THESE FACILITIES?
>> FIRST OF ALL FACILITIES
BUILT IN FY 15.
I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WERE
BUILT.
THEY WERE APPROVED, FOUNDED
AND BUILT UNDER THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
LOOK, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T
THINK THEY ARE CAGES.
THEY'RE LARGE ENCLOSURES TO
KEEP CHILDREN AWAY FROM
UNRELATED ADULTS TO PROTECT
THE CHILDREN SO THEY CAN
MOVE TO HHS FACILITY.
UNNECESSARY -- IT'S A
NECESSARY FACILITY AND WE
ARE STILL USING THEM TODAY.
BRIAN: BETO O'ROURKE WENT
DOWN TO THE MEXICAN SIDE TO
SEE THOSE SEEKING ASYLUM
WAITING IN MEXICO.
HERE IS A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT
HE SAID HE DISCOVERED.
ALL RIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE IT.
BASICALLY IS HE GOING BACK
AND FORTH AND HE SYMPATHIZES
WITH THEM AS THEY WAIT
ASYLUM.
>> WE ALL SYMPATHIZE THOSE
WHO WANT A BETTER LIFE THERE
IS A RIGHT AND WRONG WAY TO
DO IT.
BOURQUE WOULD NOT STOP BY
AND TALK TO A BORDER PATROL
AGENT THAT DEALS WITH THIS
EVERY DAY.
THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
THEY HAVE HEARTS.
MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND SONS
AND DAUGHTERS.
THEY ARE SEEING THIS
TRAVESTY EVERY DAY.
THEY ARE FINDING DEAD BODIES
AND FINDING PEOPLE DROWNED
IN THE RIVER.
WHY NOT TALK TO A BORDER
PATROL AGENT AND THANK THEM
THEIR SUPPORT AND ALL THE
WORK THEY ARE PUTTING IN
THIS.
BRIAN: AOC IS GOING DOWN TO
THE EL PASO SECTOR WHAT IS
SHE GOING TO FIND.
>> A SECTOR OUT OF CONTROL.
A BUNCH OF MEN AND WOMEN
WEARING A GREEN UNIFORM
DEFENDING THEIR NATION DOING
THE BEST THEY CAN.
THESE ARE AMERICAN HEROES
AND THEY SHOULD BE THANKED.
BRIAN: LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT
THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO
PUSH AT THEIR DEBATES AND
WHAT WE ARE HEARING OVER THE
WEEKEND KIDS, ALL ABOUT
THESE KIDS.
AND THEY ARE NOT BEING
TREATED HUMANELY.
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO
THAT?
>> THE KIDS ARE BEING
TREATED VERY HUMANELY, BUT
THE GOVERNMENT IS TREATING
THEM BETTER THAN THE
CRIMINAL CARTELS SMUGGLING
INTO THIS COUNTRY.
THIS THESE CHILDREN ARE
REALLY ESCAPING VIOLENCE IN
CENTRAL AMERICA AND EL
SALVADOR AND HONDURAS.
WHY ISN'T THE PARENT HERE
THAN EL SALVADOR TAKING
CARE.
THEY ARE GOING TO HIRE A
CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION TO PUT
THAT CHILD IN THE CAR OR
BACK OF A TRACTOR-TRAILER
AND BRING INTO THE UNITED
STATES.
THAT'S INHUMANE.
THAT'S GOOD TREATMENT.
THE GOVERNMENT IS ACTUALLY
TAKING CARE OF THESE
CHILDREN.
BRIAN: ON FRIDAY NINTH
CIRCUIT OF APPEALS REJECTS
THE PRESIDENT'S TO BUILD A
BARRIER.
>> THE ACLU KNOWS WHERE TO
GO TO SUE THE PRESIDENT.
THIS WON'T BE THE FIRST OR
LAST TIME.
THE NINTH CIRCUIT BLAMED FOR
THIS WHOLE SURGE IF YOU LOOK
AT IT.
THE FLORES SETTLEMENT
AGREEMENT, JUDGE DOLLY GEE
WAS THE WORST DECISION BY
THE NINTH CIRCUIT THAT DONE
MORE DAMAGE TO THIS COUNTRY,
ANY FEDERAL DECISION I HAVE
SEEN.
THAT'S WHY THE FAMILIES ARE
COMING ACROSS.
CAN'T BE DETAINED.
BRIAN: WHAT'S UNBELIEVABLE
IS WE HAVE BILL CLINTON ON
CAMERA SAYING I NEED THESE
WALLS BUILT.
HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO
START IT.
GEORGE BUSH GOT THE MONEY TO
DO IT.
THEY TALK ABOUT -- SENATOR
REID TALKING ABOUT THE I
WILL
ILLL
ILLOGIC OF CHAIN MIGRATION.
WHAT CHANGED IN THIS COUNTRY
THE SITUATION ONLY GOT
WORSE.
>> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE
LEADERSHIP AND EVERYONE THAT
STOOD ON THAT STAGE LAST
WEEK, THEY WANTS TO SEE THIS
PRESIDENT FAIL AND THE
PRESIDENT IS NOT GOING TO
FAIL.
EVERYTHING THEY SAID LAST
WEEK IS ABOUT PROTECTING
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
MAKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
LEGAL.
GIVING A PATHWAY TO
CITIZENSHIP.
FREE MEDICAL CARE.
DO THEY THINK THIS HELPS?
THAT'S JUST GOING TO
CONVINCE MORE PEOPLE TO MAKE
THAT DANGEROUS JOURNEY.
MORE WOMEN WILL BE RAPED.
AND MORE CHILDREN WILL DIE
BECAUSE THEY ARE ENTICING
THEM TO COME TO THIS
COUNTRY.
BRIAN: YOU HAVE MORE
CHILDREN IN POCKET.
IMPORTANT TO BRING UP.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM GAVE
ME A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE
BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT
SIMPLE ASYLUM FIXES THAT
WOULD CHANGE THE SITUATION
AT THE BORDER THAT
DRAMATICALLY.
HE SPOKE WITH NANCY PELOSI
FOR AN HOUR YESTERDAY,
LISTEN ABOUT AN HOUR WITH
SPEAKER PELOSI HERE IS THE
COMPROMISE.
START TURNING THE AID BACK
ON TO CENTRAL AMERICA.
IT IS IN OUR NATIONAL
SECURITY INTEREST TO HELP
THE TRIANGLE MORE THAN
TRIANGLE NATIONS WITH THEIR
ECONOMY, WITH THE RULE OF
LAW PROBLEMS.
BUT, IF YOU DON'T TURN OFF
THE MAGNETS THAT ATTRACT
PEOPLE, WHICH IS OUR ASYLUM
LAW US.
IF YOU DON'T REFORM THEM,
THEY WILL KEEP COMING.
BRIAN: LEGISLATION DID.
IT ADDRESSED WHAT YOU WANTED
HIM TO ADDRESS.
I THINK SOMETHING IS BEING
CUT HERE.
AM I FALSELY OPTIMISTIC?
>> NO.
I THINK LINDSEY GRAHAM HAS A
LOT OF GOOD IDEAS.
BRIAN: THE FACT THAT HE
TALKED TO NANCY PELOSI WHO
COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> LOOK, NANCY PELOSI ONLY
CAME TO THE TABLE WHEN THE
PRESIDENT SAYS WE ARE GOING
TO GO OUT AND ARREST ILLEGAL
ALIENS.
ESPECIALLY FAMILIES FINAL
ORDERS BEEN REMOVED BY THE
JUDGE.
THE BORDER CRISIS WASN'T
ENOUGH TO HER COME TO THE
TABLE.
SHE ONLY CAME TO THE TABLE
WHEN ICE WAS GOING TO GO OUT
AND DO A NATIONAL OPERATION.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE
CONCERNED THEY ARE
PROTECTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT
IN THE UNITED STATES.
BRIAN: WE HAVE THAT GOING.
THIS SEEMED BY ALMOST ALL
ACCOUNTS NUMBERS FOR JUNE
DOWN 89,000.
STILL BAD BUT NOT 130.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY LOOK AT
WHAT MEXICO IS DOING ON THE
SOUTHERN BORDER.
WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN?
>> MEXICO HAS REALLY STEPPED
UP.
THIS PRESIDENT, ONCE AGAIN,
TOOK EVERYBODY TO SCHOOL
DEMOCRATS WERE AGAINST THE
TERROR THREAT.
EVEN SOME IN HIS OWN PARTY
AGAINST THE TERROR THREATS.
ONCE AGAIN THIS PRESIDENT
HAS PROVED HE KNOWS MORE
ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAN THEY
DO.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN HERE A
LONG TIME.
ANOTHER IDEA OF HIS WORKED.
HE IS THE RIGHT MAN AT THE
RIGHT TIME DOING THE RIGHT
THING FOR THIS COUNTRY AND
HE WILL NOT FAIL THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
BRIAN: WE TALKED ABOUT NO
LONGER MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO
COME HERE ILLEGALLY.
>> YEAH, MAKING ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION LEGAL THAT
SHOULD HELP PUSH THE NUMBERS
DOWN, RIGHT?
NO, THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE
MORE PEOPLE TO COME.
IF THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE
AND NO DETERRENCE, WHY WOULD
YOU STOP COMING HERE?
>> MY HOPE IS THAT JEH
JOHNSON THE DEMOCRAT AND
OTHERS WHO HAVE SAID IT'S A
PROBLEM AT THE BORDER NOW
THEY ADMIT IT THAT MAYBE
SOME PROGRESS IS GOING TO BE
MADE ON SIMPLE ASYLUM FIXES
MAKE IT DRAMATICALLY BETTER
FOR SOME OF THE UNSUNG HEROS
IN THIS COUNTRY AND THEY'RE
WORKING THE BORDER.
>> YES.
I THINK THERE COULD BE A FIX
TO THIS BORDER BUT THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE GOT TO BE
WILLING TO PUT THEIR HATE OF