>> WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET IT,
TOM.
THANK YOU.
JOINING US NOW, DR. ANTHONY
FAUCI.
GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
ITS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> THERE IS GOING TO BE A
COLLECTIVE SIGH OF RELIEF ABOUT
THESE NEW MASK RULES.
HOPEFULLY YOUR SIGH OF RELIEF
WILL BE MASKED IF YOURE
INDOORS.
IF YOURE OUTDOORS, YOU CAN TAKE
THE MASK OFF.
JUST BIG PICTURE FOR A MOMENT,
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN IN TERMS OF
OUR BATTLE IN THIS PANDEMIC?
>> WELL, IT MEANS THAT WERE
GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH, AS
MENTIONED CORRECTLY, THERE HAVE
BEEN SO MANY CASES, WE HAVE OVER
570,000 DEATHS IN THE UNITED
STATES, SO THIS IS STILL AN
ISSUE.
WERE STILL GETTING, YOU KNOW,
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW CASES
PER DAY.
BUT THE THING THATS BECOME
CLEAR, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM THE
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, THAT THE
RISK OF GETTING INFECTED IF YOU
ARE VACCINATED AND OUTDOORS IS
EXTREMELY LOW.
I MEAN, MINUSCULELY LOW.
THATS THE REASON WHY THE CDC
HAS COME OUT AND MADE THESE
RECOMMENDATIONS, MAKING IT MUCH
MORE FLEXIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
VACCINATED TO GET OUT AND ENJOY
THE OUTDOORS.
AS YOU SHOWED ON THE CHART THAT
YOU JUST PUT UP ON THE SCREEN,
OUTDOORS, YOU CAN DO VIRTUALLY
EVERYTHING, EXCEPT CONSCIENCEGRE
A MASSIVE WAY, LIKE AT A CONCERT
WHERE THERE ARE TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT, IF
YOURE VACCINATED, YOU CAN
REALLY BE OUT THERE ENJOYING THE
ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS A BIG PLUS
IN GETTING PEOPLE VACCINATED.
>> DEFINITELY.
LETS GET TO IT BECAUSE WE STILL
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, THE MAJORITY
OF PEOPLE ARE NOT FULLY
VACCINATED IN THIS COUNTRY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, THE
RULES FOR UN-VACCINATED PEOPLE
ARE MUCH MORE LIMITING.
YOU HAVE TO BE MASKED EVEN IF
OUTDOORS, ACCORDING TO THE CDC
CHART.
BUT YOU JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, IT
IS MINUSCULING LOW.
ACCORDING TO THE CDC, LESS THAN
10% OF CASES OF COVID-19 HAVE
BEEN OCCURRING OUTDOORS.
COULDNT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS
HAVE GONE FARTHER EVEN?
>> YOU KNOW, SAVANNAH, THERE
WILL ALWAYS BE THAT ARGUMENT,
THAT THE CDC, BEING A
SCIENCE-BASED ORGANIZATION,
ALWAYS WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL THE
EVIDENCE THEY GET THE CLEAR.
EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW THAT IT IS
STILL LOW, THERES ALWAYS THAT
ARGUMENT THAT THE CDC TENDS TO
BE A BIG CONSERVATIVE.
BUT THEY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY
WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET IT
RIGHT AND ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE
OF SAFETY.
WHAT I GUARANTEE YOULL SEE,
SAVANNAH, AS MORE AND MORE
PEOPLE GET VACCINATED, WHICH
WILL ABSOLUTELY RESULT IN LESS
AND LESS PEOPLE GETTING
INFECTED.
THE NUMBERS WE ARE DAY, THE
WEEKLY AVERAGE OF A DAILY NUMBER
OF CASES IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
WHEN IT DOES, YOU ARE DEFINITELY
GOING TO SEE THE CDC COME BACK
AND BE MORE FLEXIBLE.
RIGHT NOW, THEYRE GOING SLOWLY
ABOUT IT.
THEYRE BEING VERY PRUDENT ABOUT
IT.
BUT AS THE CASE NUMBERS COME
DOWN, THEYRE GOING TO BE
PULLING BACK ON SOME OF THE
RESTRICTIONS, GUARANTEED.
>> I GET IT.
YOU KNOW, IT SETS UP A STRANGE
SITUATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
START TALKING ABOUT KIDS.
ILL TELL YOU A STORY.
I WALKED TO PICK UP MY LITTLE
GIRL AT THE BUS STOP YESTERDAY
AFTER THE CDC RECOMMENDATIONS
CAME OUT.
I TOOK OFF MY MASK.
I WAITED FOR HER.
THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE AROUND.
SHE GOT OFF THE BUS WITH HER
LITTLE MASK ON, SHE HAD TO WEAR
HER MASK, I DIDNT ON THE WALK
HOME.
WHEN ARE KIDS GOING TO BE ABLE
TO TAKE OFF THE MASKS AND PLAY
OUTSIDE AT THE PLAYGROUND?
>> YOU KNOW, THATLL BE THE SAME
THING THAT I MENTIONED A MOMENT
AGO.
IT IS GOING TO BE A SITUATION --
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, KIDS WILL
ULTIMATELY MIND UP GETTING
VACCINATED, BUT YOU WANT TO HAVE
SOME ACTIVITY IN THAT DIRECTION
BEFORE THEY DO.
HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WILL LIKELY GET
VACCINATED AS WE GET INTO THE
FALL TERM, AND CHILDREN OF ANY
AGE WILL LIKELY BE VACCINATED BY
THE TIME WE GET TO THE END OF
THE YEAR.
BUT LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THE END
OF THE YEAR.
LETS TALK ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE
OR INTERMEDIATE FUTURE.
WHEN CHILDREN ARE OUT IN THE
COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU HAVE 30, 40,
50,000 NEW INFECTIONS PER DAY,
THEY ARE UNVACCINATED NOW
BECAUSE CHILDREN CANT GET
VACCINATED NOW.
FOR THAT REASON, THEY ARE MORE
AT RISK OF GETTING INFECTED
BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT IN THE
COMMUNITY WHERE THERE IS A LOT
OF INFECTION.
WHEN THE COMMUNITY LEVEL STARTS
TO GO WAY DOWN, THE RISKS TO
EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE
CHILDREN, IS GOING TO BE
DRAMATICALLY DIMINISHED.
>> BUT ISNT IT A WEIRD
SITUATION?
BECAUSE IM NOT FULLY VACCINATED
YET.
I CAN TAKE OFF MY MASK AND WALK
HOME.
SHE CANT.
LIKE, DOESNT THAT JUST POINT UP
THAT THE CDC GUIDELINES, THERES
SOME KIND OF DISCONNECT, IF
THATS THE SITUATION?
>> WELL, YEAH.
WHAT YOURE POINTING OUT, WHAT
YOURE REFERRING TO, SAVANNAH,
IS THE TOP TWO NOT FULLY
VACCINATED, THAT PEOPLE CAN GO
OUT WITHOUT MASKS, IF YOU WALK,
RUN, WITH MEMBERS OF YOUR
HOUSEHOLD, ATTEND A SMALL
OUTDOOR GATHERING, FULLY
VACCINATED WITH FRIENDS.
AFTER THAT, EVERYTHING HAS A
MASK ON IT, AS YOURE SHOWING
CORRECTLY NOW ON THE SCREEN.
SO WHAT YOURE ASKING, IF YOU
ARE ON THE LEFT-HAND PART AND
YOU SEE UN-VACCINATED PEOPLE,
WALK OUTDOORS WITH MEMBERS OF
YOUR HOUSEHOLD.
YOURE ASKING NOW IF YOUR CHILD
IS A MEMBER OF YOUR HOUSEHOLD,
CAN YOU WALK OUTDOORS WITH YOUR
CHILD WITHOUT A MASK?
ACCORDING TO THAT CHART, THE
ANSWER IS YES.
>> BUT THE CHILD CANT, NOT TO
BEAT IT TO DEATH?
>> YES, YES.
>> OKAY.
REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO ASK YOU,
POPULAR PODCAST HOST, JOE ROGEN,
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS,
MADE COMMENTS ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE
GETTING VACCINATED.
HE SAID, IF YOURE 21 YEARS OLD
AND SAY TO ME, SHOULD I GET
VACCINATED?
I SAY, NO.
IF YOURE A HEALTHY PERSON,
EXERCISING ALL THE TIME, YOURE
YOUNG, EATING WELL, I DONT
THINK YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT
THIS.
SAYING, YOUNG, HEALTHY PEOPLE
SHOULDNT GET VACCINATED.
QUICKLY, YOUR RESPONSE?
>> WELL, THATS INCORRECT,
SAVANNAH.
THE REASON WHY IS YOURE TALKING
ABOUT YOURSELF IN A VACUUM THEN.
YOURE WORRIED ABOUT YOURSELF
GETTING INFECTED AND LIKELIHOOD
THAT YOURE NOT GOING TO GET
SYMPTOMS.
BUT YOU CAN GET INFECTED AND
WILL GET INFECTED IF YOU PUT
YOURSELF AT RISK.
EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE SYMPTOMS,
YOU ARE PROPAGATING THE
OUTBREAK.
IT IS LIKELY THAT YOU, EVEN IF
YOU HAVE NO SYMPTOMS, THAT YOU
MAY INADVERTENTLY AND INNOCENTLY
THEN INFECT SOMEONE ELSE WHO
MIGHT INFECT SOMEONE WHO REALLY
COULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A
SEVERE OUTCOME.
SO IF YOU WANT TO ONLY WORRY
ABOUT YOURSELF AND NOT SOCIETY,
THEN THATS OKAY, BUT IF YOURE
SAYING TO YOURSELF, EVEN IF I
GET INFECTED, I COULD DO DAMAGE
TO SOMEBODY ELSE EVEN IF I HAVE
NO SYMPTOMS AT ALL, AND THATS
THE REASON WHY YOUVE GOT TO BE
CAREFUL AND GET VACCINATED.
>> YEAH.
SO YOU SAY YOUNG, HEALTHY PEOPLE
SHOULD GET VACCINATED?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> DR. FAUCI, AS ALWAYS,