- What's going on guys?
So today we are comparing gimbals and sliders.
We wanna move that camera,
you can do a lot of dynamicness.
That's a verb.
No.
Dangit.
I wrote down a list of everything
I kind of wanted to talk about
and just jotted down bullet points.
But I wrote it on a piece of paper,
like Thomas Jefferson would do.
Then I can't find it. I lost it.
It's not like a script or anything,
it's just like a list of bullet points
to keep my brain on track
or else five minutes later
I'll be talking about
why Kit Kats are better than M&Ms,
which is a fact by the way.
What?
You gotta be kidding me, right?
You think M&Ms are better than Kit Kats?
- Yeah, man totally.
- That negativity will never be back on this channel.
We're gonna shoo him away.
- Milk chocolate sucks. - Get away from here.
I believe everyone should have
their own opinions and stuff
but sometimes they're just wrong.
This is exactly why I need a list, okay?
You see how fast I got off track?
So sliders or gimbals?
Sometimes you just wanna move that camera.
It's pretty common practice in the film making world
to not overuse motion.
You really wanna use the motion
to really tell part of the story
or accentuate a portion.
If someone's about to say something really dramatic
or they're feeling something really deep
You can do like a slow push in.
So yeah, there's that aspect of it.
But sometimes you just film something
that's really lame
and then you just add a little bit of motion,
it's like aw.
Gimbals especially is completely wiped out the internet
with excitement over the last few years
just because of how cool
and technologically advanced they are
and smooth your footage looks.
And people are kind of getting this mentality
of "Oh, well if you have a gimbal,
why would you need a slider?"
Kind of makes sense.
You can move it side to side
and it just gets all the same shots
the slider can get.
But not quite.
Just because you get a gimbal does not mean
you can just forget about that slider.
Now here's my personal rule of thumb.
If the shot I'm trying to get
can be achieved on a slider
then I will always shoot it on the slider.
First of all sliders are super flexible
when it comes payload and balance.
For example, I have a midsize Rhino Slider EVO
and that one slider can literally go
from shooting a phone
to a mirrorless, to a DSLR,
to a cinema camera.
I have one short set of rods
that are in carbon fiber
which I wanna use if I'm traveling
because it's very light weight,
and then I have a longer set of rails
for heavier camera setups
and also, you don't have to rebalance it constantly.
You can touch the camera so you can rack focus on it.
You can switch it out to a bigger battery,
slap on a different lens
and you don't have to touch or rebalance much.
Opposed to like a gimbal
where there's a gimbal for phones
and then a gimbal for small mirrorless cameras
and a gimbal for large DSLRs
and then a gimbal for cinema cameras.
Every time you upgrade your camera,
if it's a different size and weight class,
then you're gonna have to upgrade that gimbal as well.
If you have a zoom in that goes whoop
every single time you zoom in,
that's not gonna be too much of an issue on a slider.
But on a gimbal, you take off the lens cap
and then everything's off balance.
If you're doing a shoot on the gimbal
you just have to make sure you have that time allocated
to every time you switch out a lens,
you have to kind of rebalance everything.
Another reason I prefer a slider
is the precision you get out of it.
Gimbals are definitely smooth,
but when you're kind of doing that side by side motion
you're always getting a little bit of bounce to it.
On something like a professional city cam
you have that arm that kind of absorbs
every time you take a step
so that the camera stays still
even if you're kind of bouncing around like this.
Gimbals don't really have that,
so if you're really careful
you're still gonna get a little bit of that up and down.
It's usually fine if you're using a wide angle lens,
but the tighter your lens get,
the more obvious all these little motions get
and the less clean everything looks.
A lot of times if I'm shooting on a gimbal
I like to shoot with a little bit of slow motion
because that kind of cleans up
a little bit of that jerkiness.
But on a slider it's a lot more precise
and controlled movement and it's repeatable.
So you can start throwing out much tighter lenses
and still get that super, smooth fluid motion
and there's really no need to shoot in slow motion either
because again, it's so smooth.
So let's say you work for a company
and your job is to get product shots
or close ups and super precise motion on it.
It's really hard to get detailed shots
with motion on it on a gimbal
because you realize how imprecise you are.
On a slider, you can get right up in there,
put a micro lens or a telephoto lens in there.
Get all that detail
and even when you're doing these super precise moves
you can still generally touch the camera
and you can zoom the lens
which is kind of a cool feel
if you're sliding and zooming the lens
and the camera's much more accessible on a slider as well.
You can touch all the buttons,
you can rack focus,
you can do whatever you want.
If you have it on a gimbal
it's always weird to touch it
and it's kind of bouncing around
and you're trying to change some settings.
Definitely helps if you can control the camera wirelessly
and this one is major,
if you have a heavy camera,
the slider will save your back.
Do not underestimate a whole days shoot with a gimbal.
Those things are so heavy
and they're awkward to hold too.
It's not like a steady cam
where all the weight is supported on your waist and back.
It's like you're holding it out here
at the worst possible angle
and you can get a ready rig
where you have to bars come out
and that kinda helps support.
Those definitely help a whole lot
if you're doing a big long take.
But it's still so much easier
to just be on a slider,
just pushing it back and forth.
I've had people request gimbals for a shoot
to film a sit down interview.
That's like a 45 minute interview
and I'm like... why?
Does not make any sense.
Just use a slider for that.
Another thing that's awesome
is that a lot of these sliders now
are becoming automated.
On my Rhino Slider I have an arc
and a motion on there
so I literally just program in the settings
and then I just... I'm done.
I just wait, I just let it do all the work for me.
I even did one shoot where I took this camera
through it on a Rhino Slider,
programmed in everything
and then ran over and used a gimbal
to get a second camera angel.
So with me alone,
I was operating two cameras that was moving.
There's this thing called ARRI Trinity,
I'm not gonna lie,
I really wanna try out one day.
It's a steady cam with a gimbal on the head
so you can do jib motion.
I mean that would be very cool.
Because then you're getting a lot
of the benefits of the gimbal,
but then at the same time it's on a steady cam.
I do not want to know how much this thing costs.
Actually, I do.
60,700 dollars.
Ho, ho.
On a slider I can operate a red comfortably by myself,
do the motion and rack the focus.
I put the red on the gimbal,
it's at least a two man job, usually three,
because you definitely need somebody racking
that focus because you can't just go
and touch the lens yourself
and plus your holding this super giant heavy thing
and you don't wanna drop.
To get more precision,
you have that third person controlling
exactly where that camera's aiming.
For these reasons a lot of times,
If I'm on a professional shoot
I'll try to shoot it on a slider,
opposed to a gimbal.
Get a lot more control,
you get a lot more precision, repeatability,
it doesn't kill your back.
With smaller cameras like a DSLR
or a C100 Mark 2,
I had pretty good experiences
with my Rhino Slider EVO.
It's pretty compact, smooth, works well.
If you put on the steel rods you can definitely
handle a heavier camera like a red,
but I don't totally recommend it.
I tried stripping down the red
and putting it in the arc system
which is what kind of pans the camera automatically.
(winding noise)
But the camera's a little bit heavy,
they say it's like a 10 pound payload.
If you're interested in a Rhino Slider,
use the link in the description
because then it's a win, win, win situation.
You get 10 percent off.
I get a little kick back
and Rhino Slider gets to sell you
a couple rods of metal for hundreds of dollars.
A lot of times if I'm shooting on a bigger project,
I'll go out and rent a DanaDolly
which is like a bigger version of it.
I like DanaDolly's
because they're a little bit more heavier duty
and I also love the fact
that you can throw on pretty much any tripod head on there.
But of course, it's much heavier, much bigger
and you usually need a team of people
to assemble and move it,
and if you're interested in gimbals
my current favorites are for phones
are probably the Movi Cinema Robot
for DSORs and mirrorless cameras.
I hear a lot of good things about the Ronin-S,
I haven't used it myself yet.
But everyone says it's really awesome
and probably the Freefly Movi Pro
for the big, big cameras.
But this ARRI Trinity though.
I want it.
Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely love gimbals
and they open up so many new possibilities
but at the same time they're not replacing sliders.
But I got this slider automated
so let's read some comments
from the slider cam.
And I look so cool.
Real quick, just play some dramatic music
and I'm just gonna look at my phone,
watch this.
(epic music)
I mean how dramatic is that?
Oh right, my last video was about
the GoPro rig, this thing right here.
I'm actually using this to record audio right now.
Matti says "Ha ha I deeply apologize
for nerfing you, sorry."
This only has one shot,
I'm being hit in the nuts and everything.
Yeah right, Matti.
He was having the best time of his life right there.
(romantic jingle)
Camera Conspiracies says
"Damn that was some stable footage.
It all went to hell in low light,
but it was glorious while it lasted."
Yep, this thing is not a terrible option
for Vlogging anymore.
By the way, do you guys know
who Camera Conspiracies is?
If you don't, go check out his channel
and you'll either go there and be like...
What the hell, this is so weird, who is this dude?
Or you might like it and subscribe.
So go check him out.
Please do a video with Huawei's Mate20 Pro.
Done, it's coming in the mail,
I think today.
Or tomorrow, I don't know.
Probably you'll never read this,
but you're my hero man.
Well first of all I'm reading it
and thank you Tven... Tvennet... Tvennet.
You look like a lovely person.
(laughs)
(BEEP) yeah I am.
The Sony FDR X3000 is still
the better choice for vlogging question mark.
Go ask Camera Conspiracies,
I'm pretty sure that's what he shoots on.
What does Peter think about this?
Has Matti told him he's hanging out with Potato Jet?
Okay, real quick.
Let's just not say anything,
he doesn't know about Matti and I's relationship.
Let's just keep it on the DL.
JV Santiago wants to know what music
was playing at 11:33.
I actually get all my music from Epidemic Sounds.
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They're probably one of the best music libraries
I've found for YouTube and they're not too expensive.
But yeah, if you wanna got check em out,
you can download all their songs
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They'll never take it down,
it's yours forever to use on that video.
Nathan Crotty says I unsubscribed.
No you didn't.
Did you really?
Oh crap.
He actually did.
I'm starting to lose some subscribers.
I should probably end this video here
before I say anything else offensive and lose more.
So I'll see you guys later.
Ka-Chow.
How do you end the freaking...