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>>> WELCOME BACK. A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE IS A
GLOBAL PRIORITY BUT CAN WE MAKE
PROGRESS WHEN WE ARE SO DIVIDED
POLITICALLY AND PHILOSOPHICALLY
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS YES.
THIS IS A COLLECTION OF
PRACTICAL AND BIPARTISAN IDEAS
WRITTEN BY ENVIRONMENTAL
EXPERTS WITH FORWARD THINKING
SOLUTIONS.
SOLUTIONS. THE BOOKS EDITOR AND PROFESSOR
OF BIOLOGICAL LAW AND POLICY
JOINS ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS A VERY PRACTICAL BOOK.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> IT'S MEANT TO BE A BOOK THAT
ANYBODY CAN PICK UP AND READ.
THE ESSAYS ARE SHORT AND IT'S
WRITTEN IN PLAIN ENGLISH.
IT WAS EDITED TO MAKE IT
READABLE TO THE AVERAGE PERSON.
THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
THIS IS POLARIZING NOW AND AS I
WAS GROWING UP THIS WASN'T SO
MUCH.
MUCH.
MUCH. WE
MUCH. WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT
POPULATION CONTROL AND THE EPA
WAS ESTABLISHED.
WAS ESTABLISHED. WHY IS IT SO POLITICAL AT THIS
POINT?
POINT?
POINT? >>
POINT? >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE DECADES
IT'S BECOME A WEDGE ISSUE.
THE DEMOCRATS SAY THAT THE
REPUBLICANS ARE BAD BECAUSE
THEY DO NOT ACCEPT IT AND THE
REPUBLICAN SAID THAT THE
DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO BURDEN
YOU WITH UNNECESSARY REGULATION
AND COST.
AND COST.
AND COST. YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.
50 YEARS AGO, AND IT REALLY WAS
JUST 50 YEARS SINCE EARTH DAY
1970 AND IN THOSE DAYS PEOPLE
CAME TOGETHER.
CAME TOGETHER. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAME
TOGETHER AND THAT.
THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID IT
WAS 30 YEARS AGO WITH THE 1990
CLEAN AIR ACT.
THIS BOOK SAYS THERE'S LOTS OF
SUBSTANTIAL THINGS WE CAN DO.
>> PEOPLE LOVE TREES.
THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF
THE ECOSYSTEM. PARTICULARLY AS
WE ARE FOCUSED ON CLIMATE CHANGE
EVEN THE PRESIDENT WHO SOMETIMES
SEEMS QUITE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THIS
AGENDA HAS AGREED THAT WE
SHOULD PLAN TREES ACROSS THE
PLANET.
PLANET.
PLANET. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT WATER
SCARCITY.
SCARCITY.
SCARCITY. PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
OBVIOUSLY.
OBVIOUSLY. THERE'S A DROUGHT IN CALIFORNIA
AND WE HAVE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT
IT HERE. WHAT SHOULD WE BE
DOING.
DOING.
DOING. >>
DOING. >> WE HAVE WATER AS A RESOURCE
THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
CONSIDER WASTES.
CONSIDER WASTES. WE CAN RECYCLE WASTEWATER INTO
USABLE WATER.
USABLE WATER. SINGAPORE HAS AN EXTRAORDINARY
PROGRAM.
PROGRAM.
PROGRAM. THIS HAS TO BE THE GAME PLAN
FOR THE 21st CENTURY.
>> AND WE CAN DO MORE
PERSONALLY AS WELL.
RED LIGHTS TO GREEN LIGHTS.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE
THINGS THAT WE STOP DOING OUR
WE TRY TO STOP BUT WE DO NOT
FIND A SOLUTION ON THE OTHER
SIDE.
SIDE.
SIDE. WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT?
>> THIS IS MY OWN ESSAY IN THE
BOOK.
BOOK.
BOOK. WHAT I AM ARGUING IS THAT THE
PAST ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM WAS
ALL ABOUT TELLING PEOPLE WHAT
THEY COULD NOT DO.
THAT TURNS OUT TO BE HELPFUL IN
STOPPING THE WORST PROBLEMS BUT
IT DOES NOT GIVE PEOPLE
INCENTIVES TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
IT DID NOT GET US TO A CLEAN
FUTURE.
FUTURE.
FUTURE. WE ARE STILL STRUGGLING WITH
WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
AS EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU NEED
INCENTIVES TO GET THE CREATIVE
SPIRIT ACROSS THE SOCIETY WITH
THE INNOVATORS AND ENTREPRENEURS
.
.
. >>
. >> YOU
. >> YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT KIDS AND
CLIMATE LEGISLATION.
CLIMATE LEGISLATION. >> THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE
PSYCHE OF OUR YOUNGER PEOPLE.
THEY ARE IMPORTANT. YOUNG
PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE HAVE TO DO
IT BETTER GOING FORWARD.
WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT THESE ARE
A NECESSARY BYPRODUCT.
THE FOLKS THAT I TEACH EVERY
DAY THE TWENTYSOMETHINGS ACROSS
PARTY LINES. I THINK THEY
CONSIDER A MATTER OF FAIRNESS
AND EQUITY.
AND EQUITY. >> I DO NOT BLAME THEM BECAUSE
THEY THINK WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT
THEIR FUTURE.
THEIR FUTURE. THAT IS THE MESSAGE THAT IS
GOING ACROSS.
GOING ACROSS. YOU HAVE A COLLEAGUES THAT IS
MANAGING TO COMBINE
ENVIRONMENTALISM WITH HIP-HOP.
>> IF I FOCUS ON WHAT I AM
THINKING I WILL START
BLUNDERING.
BLUNDERING. WHEN I LOOK AROUND AT THE TREES
I START WONDERING.
NOT AFRAID OF LIGHTNING AND
THUNDER.
THUNDER.
THUNDER. NOTICE ME LOVING THE FORESTRY.
IT HOLDS ME AND CONSOLES ME.
THE OTHER THING THAT IT DOES IT
MOLDS ME.
MOLDS ME.
MOLDS ME. >> TELL ME MORE ABOUT HIM AND
THIS NEW APPROACH TO THINKING
FRESHLY ABOUT COMMUNICATING
WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.
>> THIS IS THOMAS EASLEY WHO IS
A DEAN AT YALE FOR INCLUSION
AND DIVERSITY.
AND DIVERSITY. HIS ESSAY IN THIS BOOK IS
CALLED HIP-HOP SUSTAINABILITY.
THE POINT IS YOU CANNOT BROADEN
THE BASE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
TRANSFORMING CHANGE WITHOUT
REACHING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE
BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION. IT IS UPPER-MIDDLE-CLASS
SUBURBAN.
SUBURBAN.
SUBURBAN. IT IS TAKING IT TO INNER CITIES.
THEY WERE LEFT OUT AND
DISENGAGED.
DISENGAGED. THEY NEED TO BE PART OF THE
ENTHUSIASTIC