hey everybody good morning I am in Quartzsite Arizona
I am bumping this video up because of its importance and then we'll get back
to other RV stuff but I'm actually going to reach out to some fellow RV or some
full-timers Class A people I really really really need your help so I'm
gonna tell you what's going on and then I'm gonna give you a bunch of
information so that you can diagnose it correctly because if I leave out stuff I
tend to get like 500 comments of the same people asking well why don't you
just do this and then I have to write to 500 people and say I can't because of
this so that's why I'm gonna be as clear as possible but let's go back to
Flagstaff Arizona we left with a full tank of water 66 gallons of water in
there I know that because the overflow started pouring out and I knew we were
totally full of water we drove through the mountains from about 8,000 feet wet
twists and winds ups and downs got here and I had less than a third a tank of
water all nearly all of my water sloshed and drained and siphoned out on the trip
babbling right to put that into perspective this is much different than
Yoda because rather than having a fill right here that you put water in and it
has a vent right next to it you can feel the air coming out and when it's full
water I'll slosh out of that vent well instead in this class a and a lot of
class A's we simply have a threaded input this is for my fresh water take
you thread the hose in there turn it on when it's full I thought that it was
going to come out of one overflow vent and you can see it dripping you know
it's full it's actually - I'll show you on the other side so in this compartment
on the other side this is where the propane's at and I actually took apart a
wall right here so that we can see the water tank which is about 4 inches from
the edge here and goes all the way back pass through to the other side it is a
huge 66 gallon water tank now what you'll notice here is on top right here
you have the overflow and vent great it's at the top of the tank that
makes sense problem is it simply immediately goes down and there you
can't see it back there but it drains onto the ground it never goes up it just
simply goes down yeah and like I said there are two of them there's one here
on this side and you won't be able to see it probably but way back there it's
gonna do the same thing go down there's one on each end I started looking into
it and sure enough this is a known problem with a lot of the newer class
A's they don't have room to do anything else there's no option guess what
because there is a steel floor all the way through here for us to stand on
inside the RV in fact I've got all of about a half an inch of clearance above
the tank I can kind of put my finger in there that's steel so there they didn't
have an option to bring the vent up higher than the top of the tank
they just said yeah just to put it right on the ground on the top of the tank
which is a terrible idea and I guess a bunch of people realize
that their entire tank can just be emptied in a day I'm like really so you
can't boondock in today's RVs like they've made it I don't want to say
impossible but hey if you have an idea you should be writing something below
and giving me an idea because I okay there's another vlog or a blogger
I'm sorry I forgot their name but they said it you don't have the physical
option to bring that vent higher than the tank which I don't know what to tell
you I does the slide also so even if I could drill through the steel floor and
bring it out somewhere the slide comes in now so I don't have that option
either the only real option I have is what they were talking about is building
a little racetrack of tubing on top of the tank to kind of make it harder for
the water to escape while you're driving right it's just gonna loop it back and
forth and come back on the top of the tank and then it's still gonna vent and
eventually that's gonna fill up with water when you're filling your tank and
come out the out wherever you put the out o or you can build the opposite of a
p-trap and you can reroute that vent right there to the top of the tank go up
a couple feet and then just turn around and come back down and pipe
back into where it's out like I said I got a steel floor right there with half
an inch clearance on top so and why are there two they're both doing the same
dumb thing on both ends why do I need two of those I have no maybe if you're
part of this way filling and then this way the other day absolutely frustrating
so at this point right now I can't cap them so don't recommend that you will
rupture your tank that tank needs air flow constantly whether you're parked or
you're driving you cannot just put an inline valve and say nope
don't want to lose but you cannot do that it absolutely has to be there if
there was a way to put in a one or two way vent you know and just allow air to
come and go as it pleases that won't work either because like I said my input
to fill the tank is threaded I need a way for water to escape when it's full
otherwise I will never know when it's full so this system of venting the air
and water through the top of the tank must be there for this entire system to
work the problem is I can't keep the water in the tank as I go from place to
place and that is baffling to me so I know some of you guys have run into this
problem and know you've made fixes I'm guessing you've made a couple of the
fixes that I've already mentioned are possible but do you have any advice for
us in this circumstance please let me know below because I'm usually pretty
good at making some fixes and changes that I have to this one has me
absolutely baffled I did kind of think about cap being the one that was here
and maybe that would help not lose as much of the water but you know you start
going over some of these bumps and you can actually turn your water tank into a
siphon effect where once it goes out that it just keeps collecting the water
as you're going uphill and just draining your water everywhere it's so
frustrating let me see just trying to cover all in my basis so I'm not talking
about these three vents right here this one back here will empty the freshwater
tank there's available on that this is cold in hot water I'm not talking about
those okay I'm talking about this half inch pecs right here which will
empty it if it gets too full on this side and there's another one just like
it on the other side now the easiest solution for most people I wish I could
do would just be to reroute that vent higher than the tank or loop it somehow
and I don't have that option so it's either I bought the wrong RV for
boondocking or we have just got to find a way to get that vent up somewhere
higher so until we figure that out we're gonna keep working on this solar project
but uh we basically can't carry any water anywhere we go right now and
please let me know what do you guys have if you have any videos - links or you
want to show me something make a private video on YouTube unlisted and give me
the link love to hear from you guys otherwise I'm gonna battle over this in
my head for a little bit longer and by now you know I'm doing solar here in the
desert with Darby prepper Wayne so back to normally scheduled programming here
in a couple days