- Out in public when you're at a bar
or anything like someone randomly can be like,
yo, I wanna hire you to like strip
at my like bachelorette party
or something like that.
And it's just like, I'm not even a stripper!
(group laughs)
(Techno music plays)
- [Host] The word "midget" is offensive.
Three, two, one, go.
(shoes tap)
(group laughs)
- Why I somewhat agree is because the term "midget"
was actually coined back in the 1800's,
when little people could not, you know, live normal lives,
they couldn't go to work a certain way,
they couldn't go to school a certain way.
And that created an actual circus lineage
of little people who make their livelihood based
on the word midget.
I, I understand that it is very painful
and it was very painful for me as a child to hear that word.
But I think all of these people have stopped
and told someone like, you cannot refer to me by that.
And I respect that as well.
But if someone is like, I just don't care,
and that's how I make my money.
Then do you.
- It's the ignorant people that use it.
It's the fact that people that who aren't ignorant
that know the history behind the word,
or know that the word's offensive,
still use the word as the hook, like "midget wrestling."
Like you don't like we don't see it called "dwarf wrestling"
or "little person wrestling."
We call like, that word is the hook that brings people in.
To me that just says a lot of like,
oh, we know it's a bad word.
We know it offends you.
We just don't give a crap.
- I've worked in the entertainment industry
for over a decade,
and I've also played drums on tour in a rock and roll band.
And I've been reviewed as the "midget drummer."
It's really tough to be taken seriously
and also take your project seriously,
when you are referring to us in an offensive way.
Ask me what my name is and call me by my name.
- [Host] People fetishize me.
Three, two, one, go.
- For those of you that agree, I am very curious
what you guys come across
- Yeah, what are you doing all the way over there?
- I am like lost here, I'm like,
wait, people fetishize about you?
- [Christophe] Congratulations man.
(group laughs)
- Before meeting my wife, I had,
I dated average-height women,
but it was also like out in public
when you're at a bar or anything,
like someone randomly come up to me and friends
and be like, yo, I wanna hire you to like strip
at my like bachelorette party
or something like that.
And it's just like, I'm not even a stripper!
(group laughs)
Like I'm just chilling at the bar with my friends.
- I feel like as a female little person
we definitely get fetishized a lot.
I, I almost think as a little person too
people don't think we are like real
and have like real feelings,
like we're some type of like mythical creature, whatever.
And I'm like, no, I'm a real person, I'm a lady,
and the fact that you're talking
to me like that is, it's bad.
(Ali laughs)
- I've also done a lot of entertainment gigs like Ali has,
and it is an open door to invite all of these sleazy people
and invitations into your face.
You know, it's, they're, they're right there.
- Especially when you're in a, like you said,
when you're in a bar or a club.
- Yeah.
- And people are drinking. - Yeah
- Then this gets amplified and it's,
it's even more like over the top.
A lot of average-size people also look at it like,
"Oh, I've never been with someone like that before."
It's almost like a bucket list, you know.
And we're on it!
- What is sex like with a little person
and how crazy can we get?
- Can you tell me where you go
to meet these bucket list people?
- Yeah. I'll tell you, man.
I'll tell you, I'll give you some numbers.
- I feel like because I'm a guy and a little person,
I don't get fetishized, like how she said,
which makes me feel very sad,
but also like, I don't, like in a weird way
I kind of want to experience that,
but also don't with the stuff that you said.
- [Vinnie] Watch, it's gonna happen now.
(group laughs)
- It's gonna happen now.
- Wait but I have a question. Do you have social media?
- [Kevin] Yeah.
- Really? And you don't get like.
- No one has ever slid into my DM's being like,
"Hey, I wanna tower over you."
- Really?
- I mean, some of my friends
they normally tell me,
"Oh, you're so lucky,
because you know everyone wants to get like with you."
And stuff like that.
It might be fun one night or one day
when you are like kind of in the mood for it or whatever.
But in my case, it's been a nightmare since I started like
around like my last years of high school.
- I've been an online sleuth
and an online nerd since I was a kid.
15 years of my life is compiled on the internet
and I've spent half of that time warding off
what I call "LP collectors."
Oh, and, and also if you wanna sound cool
and you know a little person,
you can use the term LP.
- Yeah. (group chuckles)
- I would say this little person
I would have people messaging me, DM-ing me,
while I was a teenager up to this day,
you know, "Can I have sex with you
because you are a little person?"
That kind of messes you up as a teenager.
- You have to wonder like,
how far is somebody gonna take it?
- Exactly.
- And then we're, we're little people,
and then also we're women.
So then it's like, there's a whole safety thing
that you have to worry about too.
Like - Oh yeah.
Are they going to just pick you up
and take you off somewhere?
- Well, I have straight up choked people out,
like in defense of someone trying to pick me up so hard
and not giving up,
that I'm actually jamming, like my full core
and body into their throat, just to like get them off of me.
I hate it,
but it almost makes me like,
not used to human touch as much
because I'm so used to like, do not pick me up.
Do not fucking pick me up.
- [Host] I want to have children.
Three, two, one, go.
- Oh, wow, we're all over the place.
- You know, I love kids,
I think they're amazing, wonderful, cute.
I think that that ship has sailed and sank, or whatever.
So I don't, I don't think that's a possibility for me,
but more power to anyone else that does it,
as a average-size person or a little person.
- My parents are average height.
It was always one of those things where they made me feel
like I was just like everyone else.
With me and my wife, it's one of those things where
I wanna bring up a kid
and make him feel that same exact way,
but explain to him that there's going to be things
that are going to be tough.
A little mini me (laughs)
Teach him play guitar, I don't know.
(group laughs)
- A lot of the things you said,
like growing up you and I probably relate
in the same way that our parents never really
knew how to explain our situation to us.
The ability to kind of relate to my kid in that way
is something that I'm kind of looking forward to.
- I, I don't think I have like a bad life
or anything like that,
but if I'm gonna focus on the, all the problems
or the main problems that I ever had,
that's probably related to my height,
so I just do not wish that like on my kid,
you know what I'm saying?
The whole, like going to a school,
the whole like trying to probably like get a date,
the whole like "I wanna be just like my friends."
Or "I wanna like play this type of sport
that I'm not allowed to."
But like I said, this is how I see it right now
and how I seen it in the last five years,
maybe in the future, I don't know,
I get like a partner and, and my mind changed.
I don't know. I don't know.
This is just how I say it right now.
- I'm, Ima tell you this.
I think with everything that you've gone through,
and whatnot,
you paved such a great road for yourself and your,
if you decide to have a child,
I think you would be a great dad, you know,
because you went through all that stuff and like,
you faced it.
- Your concerns are like completely legitimate because like
there's also like the other medical fears
for people like us as well.
- Yeah. But that's my thing, like right now
like I'm okay with myself.
Like right now I actually see it as an advantage.
It's I just don't wish what I went through,
like to anyone.
- I don't think anybody's trying to change your mind
because man being in your young twenties and enjoy it.
You know what I mean?
But also there's, there's an element where you never
know what you're going to get no matter what, you know.
And so
- Unless you adopt and that's where, you know
- [Christophe] I think even that, I mean,
- well, the genius right there
then my grandchildren still have like the
the thing about to bring it.
I was just trying to cut my line right here.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [Host] I appreciate when people offer to help.
Three, two, one, go.
- The only two women came over to strongly agree.
So I can attest that definitely,
I appreciate the help.
To do a lot of things on a daily basis
being this small is really challenging.
A prime example, going to the grocery store.
All the stuff that I want is always on the top shelf,
of course.
So, you know, half the time,
if there's not somebody around,
I have to actually do the climbing.
Like it's like rock, rock climbing all the way
to the top to get what I want.
But I love it when there's somebody on the aisle,
I don't hesitate, I ask for help.
- I had average height family members when I was a kid.
Back then we didn't really have an understanding
of people disabilities.
And so it would be very much that thing of like
prove to me, you can do it if I wasn't here.
And that used to upset me so badly.
I would be in a perilous position
where I might break my back
before I would ask for help.
So if I'm in a position to be like, ask for help
I always think that it ends up opening more conversations
to people to show that you are confident to not
be afraid to ask for what you need.
- I try and get like things myself, you know,
- Use the climber cart.
- I'll climb
- I'll use the cart.
I'll just like take the soda box,
pile him up - Grab another cart.
- Just be like, alright, whatever.
But like, it's one of those things where I try
and do it myself first.
But if I can't, I, I don't have an issue being like, yeah
And just being like, "Ima need you to get that."
And they're like, "Oh my gosh, can I get that for you?"
And they like freak out and they like
feel like they just did the best duty of the day.
- Yeah. I'm with you on that.
Because like, I'm not trying to like be rude
to those people that offer their help.
It's just like, I know you're trying to be helpful
but I need to know how to do this.
- Wait I have a question for you guys.
So you guys climb?
- Yes
- I climb too, but this is my only problem with that.
When I see someone really hot
or someone that, that like I don't know,
like I find really hot, I just, I can't.
- You, you use the moment.
- I can't, I can't do the climbing thing when this is
someone really hot next to me.
So what I do is like, I just don't get the, the thing.
I just don't get it.
- [Kevin] Why don't you just ask them?
That way you start a conversation with them!
Why don't you ask them?
- [Katrina] Yeah, I was gonna say it opens up
- [Christophe] That's a great in man.
- I just give up. I'll get that next time.
You know what I'm saying?
I normally climb.
- [Christophe] Yin and yang, you know?
- I actually went out of my way
and bought like a toy claw,
like one of those like grab like grabby toy claws,
like to go to a grocery store.
It's like, oh, I need to grab a bag of chips.
It's like, okay, I cannot climb this
I'm just gonna use this claw.
Boom.
- [Host] I like being little.
Three, two, one, go.
- It, it took me a long time to get as far as you know
do I ever wish I was not a little person?
No, I'm very confident in my skin and who I am.
I don't know.
I think that just came from like age and just acceptance.
And I, I finally got to a point of, of accepting.
This is the situation and now I love it.
- I'm really happy in my skin.
I have made such incredible friends
and I know beautiful people with dwarfism
and maybe I wouldn't know them if I didn't have dwarfism.
The reason why I'm not on that line is
because I surf and I wish my arms were a little bit longer
so I could paddle into bigger waves.
Otherwise I'm all good.
- Obviously there are gonna be moments where it's like, oh
this would be a lot easier if I was average height.
But like, it's just fun finding things
about being a little person that like
makes you enjoy it.
Because like average height people can't really
say the same cuz since the world's built
for average height people's like, you know,
everyone can do a lot of the same things.
- We only live once and this is our life,
and this is what we were set to do.
Live it the best you can.
And like Kevin was saying, you know
like there's so many different discoveries you can find
out about yourself.
- Yeah, I somewhat agree because
when I was in my late teens I went down the rabbit hole
of trying to figure out dwarfism history itself.
And it's so hard to find
because the community has been completely
like demolished through the media.
When I looked back,
I found that little people were worshiped
in ancient Egypt and that really woke me up.
And when I kept continuing down that I saw
that they were given high power positions.
And I started realizing this,
it was a prevalent thing in other cultures.
And people would come up to me
and try to pat my head or kiss my face.
And I, it really threw me off at first.
And then I started realizing in other cultures
that it was like a negative thing
to not touch a little person.
- And I agree with all you guys are saying
but I will be lying to myself
and I will be lying to you guys,
if somehow if blue fairy tale just come fairy tale,
fairy just come here
and give me the opportunity of just being normal,
I will probably pick it.
But I understand exactly all you guys are saying.
And I identify a lot with all these experiences, so yeah.
So I that's that's, that's my only, that's my only thing
but hey, we're here and we are making the best
out of it and I'm so proud of all you guys.
I'm happy that I met you and yeah, that's just it.
- [Kevin] I'm happy I met me too.
- [Host] And that is officially a wrap you guys.
(group claps)
- [Ali] Yay!
- Awesome.
- [Ali] Good to see you.
- [JC] Nice meeting you guys.
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