- OLIVIA: And then maybe, maybe I'll let you roast me for my Patreons.
You can roast my handwriting.
- LEAH: Oh, perfect.
- OLIVIA: Yeah.
- LEAH: Should I introduce myself?
- OLIVIA: Yeah, introduce yourself.
- LEAH: Okay, my name is Leah, and I make videos about handwriting analysis,
also known as graphology.
It's a branch of psychology that's largely shat on,
but [laughs] here we are regardless.
And the goal for looking at these samples today,
because there are certain traits that certain professions share,
and there are certain ways to recognize different professions,
or different...
I don't know, like, different niches in handwriting sometimes.
Like, you know, you can tell who kind of has anger issues sometimes.
You can kind of tell who...
You can tell what people gravitate towards sometimes in handwriting,
and there are different indicators that indicate different professions,
and the goal was, I was trying to see,
okay, anyone that considers themselves a spiritual practitioner
or a witch, or whatever people decide to call them as,
under that umbrella, is there anything that these people share?
So, Olivia was kind enough to get me a bunch of samples.
- OLIVIA: Yeah, I reached out to all of my practitioner friends, and I just
uploaded this huge Google Drive thing with just all these different samples,
so... and I'm curious if you have specific opinions on certain samples,
I'm going to try to look and see who it is and try to...
- LEAH: Okay, cool.
- OLIVIA: ... confirm or deny from what I know of these people.
Some of them, I'm obviously closer with than others, but, yeah.
- LEAH: Oh, fun.
Okay, wait.
Can I share my screen? - OLIVIA: [Laughs]
Okay, this is my folder. - OLIVIA: Okay.
This is my folder, and I've found that there are three categories.
- OLIVIA: Oh my god [laughs].
- LEAH: There's a lot of different...
It felt like, in first looking at all the samples,
I'm like, "Oh god, none of these have anything in common with each other."
And then I started really going through everything and kind of
figuring out what are the similarities.
There are some definite patterns.
So, like, [laughs] there's people that I would call romantic.
There's this very romantic style of handwriting that's like...
I guess I'll go a little deeper into these later.
But I found that someone wrote...
There are some people that write super in this romantic style.
There are some people that write with, like, clear anger in their handwriting.
- OLIVIA: Mm.
- LEAH: And then there were some people that...
It's hard to say if it's gentle, because, for the most part,
it is gentle, but this is also where I was kind of putting
my miscellaneous handwriting.
But they all kind of do have a gentle quality to the writing.
Although I think this was kind of the miscellaneous handwriting,
and I'm wondering if these people are potentially newer to the craft
as well.
I'm not totally sure.
- OLIVIA: Oh, interesting. Okay.
- LEAH: But, so, my initial predictions for looking
at the handwriting was, I was like...
Because I've looked at handwriting of people that are very spiritual
in the past,
and usually it's like, large upper zones,
because upper zones are, like, the upper third of the handwriting
is your moralities and intellectual ideas, and...
and it also goes along with, like,
it can go along with religion.
So, I'm like, "Okay, that seems pretty witchy."
And I looked at other people that have very strong sense of spirituality,
and they usually have large upper zones.
And then I also was wondering if I'd see baselines that aren't really
on the baseline, just because that would kind of indicate
someone that's very imaginative and doesn't necessarily...
has a hard time keeping their feet on the ground,
just because I noticed that pattern in a couple people's handwriting
in the past.
But I actually didn't notice that, really, all that much,
and I didn't even notice too many large upper zones.
But anyways,
so, for the romantic writers, the romantic witches,
I noticed a lot of arcaded styled handwriting,
a lot of stylistic deviations,
a lot of writing that's reminiscent of older cursive styles.
- OLIVIA: Mm-hmm.
- LEAH: So, for example,
this is the Palmer Method.
This is Spencerian Cursive,
and this is D'Nealian.
These guys are not... although it's a lot of cursive,
it's like, no one's writing simple cursive.
It's all cursive that's pretty reminiscent of an older style
of handwriting,
which would indicate someone that's...
I don't know, that honors these older traditions,
which was kind of interesting.
- OLIVIA: Okay, so that's kind of interesting, too,
because I'm curious if I'll be seeing this moreso in
traditional practitioners or people who follow more traditional things
compared to something that's more of a UPG and more of new age style.
- LEAH: Perfect. What's UPG mean?
- OLIVIA: UPG is Unverified Gnosis.
So, it's kind of like, it's not something that they got
from a specific practice that's taught and hierarchied.
That's a weird word to say, but it's not a structured thing.
It's more something that's kind of based off intuition.
- LEAH: Got it, yeah.
So, these were some of the patterns that I've noticed.
And then, I guess I'll just show some of these romantic styled writers.
Your handwriting is definitely in there, because it's like...
It's like this kind of older style cursive,
but it's also kind of got these upper zones.
You could argue there's some indicators of anger in there, but
it's definitely this older style of cursive, and here's...
just all these...
even this.
I put this person in this category - OLIVIA: Interesting.
Because it's, like, these stylistic deviations that are happening.
So, I was like, that's what I kind of...
- OLIVIA: The two people that you showed that weren't mine,
the first one is Annie the Green Witch, and she practices a lot of
folk magic, so it is a lot of older style remedies.
And then, the next person you showed, I believe he...
His name's Ocean, and he is a Nordic practitioner, so again,
very based in folk and tradition.
So, I think that's kind of interesting that it shows up in his handwriting.
- LEAH: That's just cool.
And again, honestly, other graphologists may have other opinions
on people who are super spiritual and their handwriting,
because I know there are some graphologists where,
their houses, they have binders filled with handwriting.
This gal that I used to go to this study group with,
her name is Linda,
she says, "Oh, I could get out my stripper binder."
And it's, like, a binder - OLIVIA: What? [Laughs]
filled with handwriting from all [laughs] strippers.
- OLIVIA: Fuck yeah, Linda!
- LEAH: I'm like, "Oh my god, what other binders do you have?"
[Laughs]
- OLIVIA: "I can get out my stripper binder."
That's not something I would have ever thought to hear
somebody ever say to me.
That's hilarious [laughs].
- LEAH: Yeah, so, because this is honestly,
what I'm attempting to do now,
which I don't think I've really attempted to do this before,
where I...
I kind of did this a little bit when I was trying to learn about
writers with DID - Dissociative Identity Disorder -
because there's not too much thorough examination,
and I'm lucky to have a bunch of systems that were
willing to send me a bunch of handwriting,
so I was able to kind of do it for that.
But this isn't really something that I normally do,
so I feel like not the biggest pro.
Then, in the angry writers, it was like...
all this high tension, compressed letters, angularity.
This, this is all indicators of someone that has this tension
and anger in them,
and a lot of people are like,
"Oh, that's just the way I write.
That's just the way I write."
But it's like, if you're writing in a way that's super tense,
and that's the way you normally write,
that's how you normally carry yourself.
So, that's what I say to anyone who's like,
"Oh, I'm not angry.
This is just the way I write."
And it's like,
"Mm, no."
So, here we've got a lot of high tension.
There's a lot of tension in there.
This one was more of a...
Okay, and the other things I saw,
I saw some large upper zones.
I saw some evidence of impatience.
I saw some non-uniform all-caps, versus...
You can have...
Where am I going with this?
Sometimes all caps will be something that happens to people
in certain professions,
but usually how you tell the difference between
if someone is writing in all caps because it's for their profession
or not is how uniform it is.
For example, this person writes in all caps,
but it's very non-uniform in terms of size,
and in terms of legibility as well, they're struggling.
This is the more "neater" version of their handwriting.
They had two samples, but this one was the more neater version,
and you still see the non-uniform, and even the speed...
- OLIVIA: I have to go see who these two are.
- LEAH: Yeah.
- OLIVIA: I know who the pink one is. Okay.
- LEAH: Which, this is impatience, but it's also like,
when you have un-uniformity,
you can't really count on this person to behave predictably.
This person is always kind of impatient and fast,
so you can kind of have an expectation of how they will behave.
I don't know if that makes sense, but...
I don't know, some people are genuinely unpredictable
and you don't know what the heck to expect from them.
- OLIVIA: [Laughs]
- LEAH: You know what I'm saying?
This person, you kind of know to expect the unexpected,
if you know what I'm saying.
- OLIVIA: Yeah, I was just going to say,
I was like, "That's expected of this person,"
of not being able to expect anything - LEAH: [Laughs]
or to be unexpected with this person, that's expected [laughs].
- LEAH: [Laughs]
The other thing I saw is,
I saw quite a bit of mixing all caps and lowercase,
which would indicate defiance.
It can also indicate ADHD, but honestly, ADHD is such a huge spectrum
that I find it really hard to see what people have in common.
But I noticed, I don't know, there were a lot of capital Rs.
I'm like...
For example, in this person, there's some big, giant Rs,
and I'm like, "What is going on?"
- OLIVIA: Hmm.
- LEAH: So, it's like, mixing these all caps.
Oh, and I also put her in this category.
I don't think this person's actually an angry person,
but they were definitely kind of sick of it when writing this,
just because of all the underlining. - OLIVIA: [Laughs]
You notice, if you...
I'm not comparing this person to a dictator,
but a lot of dictators have so much underlining
when they write things down.
So, I don't think this is how this person normally is.
- OLIVIA: No! [Laughs]
- LEAH: I think this person is just sick of getting unsolicited DMs
being like, "Oh my god, read my astrology chart,"
and they're like, "Go, get lost."
- OLIVIA: Well, yeah, this is one of the accounts
that she gets hundreds of DMs, hundreds, saying,
"Oh, you reached out to me, but I think it's a different account
that you made,"
and she's like,
"I literally don't have any more accounts."
It's one of those things with just scammers.
And she gets a ton of them, because she actually does do readings.
But she doesn't reach out to people,
and so, she's just so over having to say this.
- LEAH: Yes.
- OLIVIA: So I think she... That was probably...
- LEAH: You have to approach it... [laughs] - OLIVIA: Yeah, like...
- LEAH: You have to approach it with a level of diplomacy.
Do not send me an email. - OLIVIA: Yes! [Laughs]
Do not send me a goddamn email when I tell you don't email me.
Yeah.
- OLIVIA: That's exactly...
So, that's hilarious.
I think she's going to get a kick out of that. You're a dictator, Robyn.
You heard it here first.
- LEAH: You're a dictator [laughs].
Let's see, this one, I mean, we've got some giant Ks,
which is an indicator of defiance,
but this one, I think I was just also noticing the compression.
This one has some indicators of depression in there, so I'm...
- OLIVIA: Oh, let me see.
- LEAH: But, I guess I did put it in this category...
This one just indicates depression, because I was just getting this...
The baseline is kind of sinking.
It starts at the top, and then it gets kind of lower,
and also the form is kind of suffering,
and the middle zones are all closed.
- OLIVIA: Mm.
- LEAH: So, it's like, emotional, emotionally closing off.
Not to get in this person's business, but I put this person
in this category because...
because it is compressed letters, and it does have a speed to it.
But I don't know if this person is actually angry,
now that I really think about it.
But what was I talking...
I was talking about how I noticed some mixing of all caps and lowercase.
- OLIVIA: Yeah.
- LEAH: For the gentle people, some of them aren't just gentle.
Some of them are just traumatized.
But, okay.
- OLIVIA: Aren't we all?
- LEAH: I know, aren't we all?
Again, these people aren't necessarily going to
kick you in the shins, you know?
The same way people in the other category might.
They might kick you in the shins.
- OLIVIA: [Laughs]
- LEAH: These guys,
these guys don't kick any shins.
Because this one, I noticed,
there's a decent amount of slowness to all these handwritings
compared to the faster ones.
These are all a lot slower, which would indicate caution.
And a lot of these are even back-slanted.
Especially this one is pretty back-slanted.
And back-slanted handwriting,
it usually indicates emotional withdrawal
due to past trauma,
unhealed past trauma.
It doesn't mean someone without a back-slant necessarily
is healed from their trauma either,
but it is kind of a give-away in that sense.
Lower zones that loop down.
- OLIVIA: Mm.
- LEAH: Anyways,
which is kind of a...
I don't want to say, it's like a "feel sorry for me" trait,
because that's such a mean thing to say,
but it is kind of associated with victimizing yourself.
Mrr. But, okay.
So, I struggled to find what everyone had in common, but...
- OLIVIA: Yeah, when I got all of these samples,
I was like, "Man, Leah's really got her work cut out for her,"
because all of these are so fucking different.
But I did go across the board.
Like, I didn't stay with a single practice.
It was anybody and everybody who practiced, so.
- LEAH: Yeah, no, and it was really so fun to see
I think especially just a lot of people with very clear
stylistic choices with their form,
which also just kind of shows...
would indicate someone that, you know, has a style to them
and cares about how they're coming across,
and has this unique creativity about them.
You know, that, I definitely noticed.
But then there are some people that are...
that kind of other aspects of their personality are showing through
more than others, perhaps.
I'm like, I think that's all I've got.
- OLIVIA: Cool, no, that was super interesting.
- LEAH: It was chaotic, but...
- OLIVIA: [Laughs] That's okay.
I mean, as you talk about the different pieces,
backslants and upper zone and lower zones and things like that,
I'll try to link above if people are like,
"I don't know what she's talking about."
- LEAH: Yeah.
- OLIVIA: Thanks for coming on and I guess not roasting my friends,
but... [laughs]
- LEAH: If I ever poked too hard at any of them when doing my analyses,
you can always just, I don't know, cut me off.
- OLIVIA: [Laughs] Okay, no I...
- LEAH: If I say anything that you're like,
"How could she say that?"
- OLIVIA: Yeah, no, I think everything...
Well, that, and also, if there was anything that I think
might have been kind of like, uh, I didn't say their name, you know?
All right, I'm going to leave everything for Leah to find her
down in the description.
Make sure you check out her channel.
It's fascinating. She's awesome.
And, yeah. That's all.
I think I'm going to pull you over to Patreon and give you a chance
to roast me and my handwriting, so we'll see how that goes.
If you're interested in seeing that, you know,
it's five bucks a month.
It's less than a Starbucks coffee every single month
to support me [laughs] so, yeah.
Check that out, and as always, thanks for watching.
Best of luck.
Be kind to each other.
And may your gods treat you as you've treated others.
Bye!
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