Well, so it seems that both
Paul and Dom know of this group because a certain Dom tried to convince me that he was related to one of the members
(awkward laughing)
Thanks (sarcasm). I believed you for five whole seconds
Wait Dominic. I thought you were in exo
me too
Yeah, weren't you like.. I forgot which one you were..
D.O?
Hi, my name is Paul Park, and I'm from Dallas, Texas and I'm a junior clarinetist currently at Eastman
Hello, my name is Dominic and I'm a senior cellist and I'm from New Zealand
Hi everyone. My name is James. I am a freshman here at Eastman School of Music and I
am majoring in French horn performance
I'm Elizabeth. I'm also majoring in French horn performance and I am a sophomore
Okay. So have you guys ever heard of kpop do you know what it is?
Yes, I've heard of it. One of my good friends from high school is very
Into kpop. I know one song
Call me baby. That's it. Hey, what about you? And I have seen some scenes in videos. I've
What about you? (referring to Elizabeth)
I've seen some videos.. I've...
Had lots of friends who were very interested in kpop
So I have lived vicariously through that but in general I have never delved into the world
Yeah.. I think I've heard about it.. (laughter)
As in like, do you actually enjoy certain groups do you like watch music videos? Or do you just know of it?
Well, I've heard of twice
They're a good group. I've heard of exo and I thought some of their songs were pretty good. I think
So I believe both of you guys are familiar with exo. yes, I had a friend who was into them
Yes. - I had a friend who was into them
I think I've listened to a couple songs
This boy group has currently nine members
They used to be 12, but they lost three members since they were like "Eh. screw you SM Entertainment,
We're leaving" anyway, so they debuted back in 2012, and we're about to react to a b-side track from
I'm chewing my gum sorry
B-side track from their 2017 album called the war
So this song is called forever and was composed by Kenzie LDN noise and Adrian McKinnon
Awesome.
I like the auto tune. - Yeah
In the beginning
Oh his voice is so low
It sounds like a rap video right now - It does
It's interesting because the lyrics are like
It's very like love poem
but the
It sounds like just like a like papi dance track. Like it doesn't it doesn't sound like a ballad per se. Oh
Oh is that D.O?
It think it was. - That was you! -That was me. That was my brother
When there's a lot of layering of the voices which feels more ballad-y to me than just having one person
rapping or such
Oh, dominant - I didn't hear anything (laughing) Ok I'll listen.
Ooh this person's voice is
Yeah
It's like you've got nice range not too high not too low I guess sounds like my cello
(judging)
Elizabeth: here there's slightly more going on
What was that? What was that?
Chromaticism James: yeah. that's what it was
Oh, that's so cool
Major, there we go, - Ok this is cool I like those
This is like the dawn section, - yeah sounds like some kind of like tribal dance or something
See every time they get past the chorus.. There's like more going on
Yeah.. is this the bridge?
I'm just guessing at this point. Was I right?
Is he like.. the rapper of the group or something?
I'm guessing he is.
That's interesting. The rapper's voice is lower.
Yeah.
It was the same in the other video.
Oh really?
The rhythm
Triplets. Triplets! Rhythm!
Okay
woahhhh
I like the addition of major. James: Yeah I know. It's like an afterthought.
I always think when it's a minor song. I mean you put like the major chord in there.. It's really..
really.. like it's so strong in your ear. - Mm-hmm
Yeah, that was really cool
Amazing. Yeah. I mean it must have been chromaticism, I don't know what it was it was like weird. - It was probably modal mixture
(We?) haven't gotten to that in theory yet.
The ending was very drastic, very abrupt.
All right. Yeah. So what did you think of that song overall musically?
Very good.
You called it swag
Swag.
what musical things happened that caused you to think it was swag?
Well.. like
the liberty they took?
It's very good. it was a very big fermata.
No, you know, that part when the rap kind of I mean the music kind of died down? And that was just rapping? - Yeah
Yeah, yeah, like right before that happened. Yeah. - that was your favorite musical moment? - Yeah. I was like "Oh, when is he?
When is he gonna stop?"
What's your favorite moment? - I don't know if I can say I have like a favorite moment
But like I thought it was interesting. How like
Each member of the group would like take turns after like every line of
Singing I guess? It brought like a lot of colors to the song. I just like how they built ten
I liked how they built tension by adding in.. Like there were a lot of elements. And
Instruments that happened like individually and then as the song progressed they layered them together more
So by the end like the texture was thicker
So it kind of builds the tension of the song throughout so you're never bored like "Ugh I've heard this before"
Yeah, but the thematic material keeps coming back. -Yeah - So there's that sense of familiarity
So next up is a girl group (100% girls)
They are called Nine Muses and they debuted in 2010 with nine members
But since then their lineup has changed drastically and they now have five members
So basically sometimes groups that last a really long time members quit and members join in. - Yeah. -So there's lots of fluxuation
Sounds familiar...
Nine Muses? Or Love City?
Both.
We'll see..
Yeah, we're about to react to their 2017 comeback called Love City and it was composed by Maria Markus and Rohan Heath.
It's a cool font. It's like. One foot in serifed and one foot not.
I don't know fonts
Serifed just means that there.. - Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, let's go
This is very different, - yeah
Sounds like some music that you would hear at like.. a club or something
The texture of their voice. Wow
Makeup is minimal. or at least it looks- I mean I'm sure it's not minimal but it looks..
Toned down.
It felt a little minor at the beginning but it's definitely major
Are they boxing? - I think so
Oh wow.
Oh wow!
Oh! It's a sequence! It's an ascending sequence. Yes, did you hear that? I think it was by half steps.- Yeah, it was (inaudible) chromatic
Chromatic sequences are a thing.
They definitely are.
This is very dramatic.
See every time like the brighter section came,
It's like happier. (the music)
Yeah, all their voices are very similar in range.
But I think that's why when they get to the course and they're all singing at the same time
It sounds really cool. - Yeah - the tambours are all the same
So you really get the effect of the chord more than "Wow, it's more people singing"
But like it's really closely stacked not like satb. Yeah. Yeah
This part kind of scares me. - Oh, yeah - I'm gonna get nightmares tonight
Oh things are getting violent.
Womanpower
You know? It's a thing.
It's like building up, oh, there we go. There we go
Getting a little... violent there.
There we go, there it is. I think there might be some applied chords in there.
Yeah, the harmonies are like so close together you're right. - I think that's why sounds so cool. - It almost sounds like a synth.
Yeah, well because we're used to hearing like a choir sing with the basses, the tenors, the altos, the sopranos..
Yeah, so you hear like the wide range of all voices but because these are so close together
Like it's a really different effect. - Yeah, I like the silence at the end. That was cool with the fireworks
Sometimes in music silence can be very..
meaningful
Yeah, most of these pop videos and this piano kind of thing. Maybe ending with a piano is a new trope
Maybe. - A new trope. I like that (laughs)
That was really cool. - The chorus is mainly just 1 and 5 I thought.
It's so interesting because they would have sections of like the chromatic sequence
Yeah
But it was mostly pretty simple. - I think that's just..
Something that a lot of songwriters put in songs when you get to the familiar thing
Mm-hmm, like the chorus that comes back again. And again you want to really root people in
"this is something you've heard before so you don't get lost." - It's all about repetition
Yeah, I think having simpler harmonies for the chorus helps us be like, oh, yeah, here we are again
Yeah, which is so cool, but then it gives them room to like do some funnier stuff you know, versus.. - This is cool
You know It's interesting to like
Cuz I really haven't listened to much kpop but hearing this there's definitely a lot of more interesting musical things to pick up on
then in like regular American
Pop music at least to me like I don't hear chromatic stuff like that, or maybe I'm just not listening to the right kind of music
I don't know. I just think they really like
They go over-
well not.. they don't go overboard but like they really go in and like get creative and like really like put in production value which
Is cool. - Yeah. No, this is crazy production.
So yeah, you said that this music video at least was really overwhelming
Yeah. - how did the music support? - It was very dramatic
I thought. The whispering and like even the dubstep part
It was like so intense at some times. So like
laughter
Yeah.
"Some times you like" and then you smiled? Would you elaborate?
Wait I don't even remember why I said this now (panicking)
So, what was your favorite moment musically of that song or least favorite moment. - I think the l.o.v.e section with the crunchy chords.
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