CITY'S
CITY'S FIRST BLACK WOMAN POLICE CHIEF AND THE CITY'S FIRST
WOMAN POLICE+@ CHIEF FOR THAT
MATTER.
MATTER.
MATTER. THIS A+@FTERNOON WE BRIN+@G IN
REPORTER TONYA ISER WHO HAS
COVERED DPD FOR MANY YEARS AND
HAVE A LOT OF SOURCES IN THE
+@DEPARTMENT.
+@DEPARTMENT. FIRST OF ALL WAS THIS A
SURPRISE TO YOU, I KNOW YOU'RE
PLUGGED IN+@TO THE RANK AND FIL
AND THE COMMAND STRUCTURE AND
THE DEPARTMENT SO WAS THIS A
SURPRISE?>>REPORTER: IN SOME
WAYS A SURPRISE AND IN OTHER
WAYS NOT, IT WAS CLEAR OVER THE
PAST THR+@EE MONTHS THAT WERE A
GROWING NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF
THE COUNCIL THAT WERE UNHAPPY
WITH HER PERFORMANCE AND THEY
WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE
DEPARTMENT'S CRIME-FIGHTING
DEPARTMENT'S CRIME-FIGHTING EFFORTS AND THEY WERE UNHAPPY
WITH HER EXPLANATIONS RATE
PROSWERE HANDLED.
PROSWERE HANDLED. THERE WAS A GROWING SENSE THERE
WAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS ON+@ THE
HORIZON AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT A LOT OF MAJOR CITY
CHIEFS HAVE RESIGNED.
WE HAVE SEEN THE FORT WORTH
POLICE CHIEF ANNOUNCED HIS
RESIGNATION IN THE SEATTLE
POLICE CHIEF HAS RESIGNED AND
THE ATLANTA POLICE CHIEF HAS
RESIGNED SO THERE IS SOMETHING
GOING ON RIGHT NOW AMONG MAJOR
CITY CHIEFS.>> A GOOD POINT,
THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE IN
POLICING AND A LOT OF CHANGE
HAPPENING WITH POLICING THESE
DAYS AND IT IS CERTAINLY A HOT
SEAT TO BE IN.
YOU ME+@NTIONED COUNCIL THAT SH
HAD SEVERAL DETRACTORS ON CITY
COUNCIL AND THEY WERE VOCAL
ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE UP UNTIL THE+
VERY END SHE HAD SUPPORT FROM
THE CITY MANAGER WHO HAS THE
POWER TO HIRE OR FIRE HERE.
WAS THAT NOT THE CASE?
WHAT WERE THE FACTORS THAT LED
TO THIS AND DO WE HAVE ANY
INDICATION YET?>>REPORTER: THAT
IS REALLY HARD TO SA+@Y, THE CI
MANAGER PLAYS A VERY CLOSE TO
+@
MANAGER PLAYS A VERY CLOSE TO THE VEST, AND HE HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY, PUBLICLY SU+@PPORTIV
AND HE HAD SAID BEFORE, MONTHS
BEFORE, EVEN BEFORE ALL OF THE @
GEORGE FLOYD STUFF AND THE
PROTESTS, HE WAS PUBLICLY
SUPPORTIVE OF HER WHEN SHE WAS
COMING UNDER CRITICISM BUT IT
IS A TOUGH JOB+@ A+@ND IT IS
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SHE HAS
BEEN ON THE JOB THREE YEARS A+@
3 TO 5 YEARS IS THE STANDARD
TENURE FOR A MAJOR CITY CHIEF.
WHILE HER LEAVING IS NOT
COMPLETELY SURPRISING I THINK
WE DO HAVE TO PLACE IT INTO
CONTEXT, THAT THESE ARE REALLY
TOUGH JOBS. +@
ALSO A FEW MOMENTS AGO I
RECEIVED A COPY +@OF THE MEMO
THAT WAS SENT OUT TO ALL
MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT AS
SHE WRITES THAT IT WAS WITH DO
OVER EMOTIONS THAT I WRIT+@E TO
YOU AND I WANT TO INFORM YOU I
HAVE TENDERED MY RESIGNATION
AND SHE GOES ON TO SAY I WANT
TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE
TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU AND
LET YOU KNOW+@ HOW THANKFUL AND
PROUD I AM TO HAVE LED SUCH AN
AMAZING GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT
REBECCA LOPEZ AND I HAVE BOTH
SPOKE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THIS
CALL, MEMBERS OF THE COMMAND
STAFF ON THIS CALL, AND IT WAS
@ DONE DURING A MICROSOFT TEAMS
+@
DONE DURING A MICROSOFT TEAMS MEETING.
MEETING.
MEETING. IT WAS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED
MEETING AT+@ IT WAS VERY SHORT
BUT SHE GOT ON THE CALL AND SHE
SAID SHE WAS PURSUING OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES AND TOLD THEM SHE
WAS LEAVING.
WAS LEAVING. +@
WAS LEAVING. +@>> SHE OF COURSE IS NOT
CLARIFYING YET WHAT THE OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES ARE SAYING SHE
HAS TO KEEP IT CONFIDENTIAL AT
THIS POINT WE HAVE TO KEEP ON
WATCHING FOR WHERE RENIE HALL
ENDS UP AFTER SHE LEAVES THE
DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW EVERY TIME WE GET INTO
THESE BIG THINGS WITH THE
DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT I AM
ALWAYS AMAZED AT HOW MANY TIMES
I HEAR YOUR PHONE DINGING OVER
THERE AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT
OF CONNE+@CTIONS WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT.
DEPARTMENT. WE KNOW THAT CHIEF+@ HALL HAS H
SUPPORTERS WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT SHE HAS A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT
HAVE NOT BEEN HAPPY WITH THE
WAY THAT SHE HAS LED IT, CAN
YOU TYPIFY WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
HEARING SO FAR FROM RANK-AND-
FILE? +@
FILE? +@
FILE? +@ IS IT A SPLIT DECISION?
I DON'T KN+@OW THAT I WOULD SAY
IT IS A SPLIT D+@ECISION, A LOT
+@
+@ OF
+@ OF PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO ARE
GLAD TO SEE HER GO AND THERE
WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY UPSET
WITH HER THAT FELT THAT SHE WAS
NOT SUPP+@ORTIVE OF THE RANK AN
FILE.
FILE.
FILE. AND
FILE. AND AGAIN, AND I KEEP SAYING
THIS, SOME OF THIS IS THE
NATURE AND THE FUNCTION OF A
BIG CITY CHIEFS JOB.
AND EVEN DAVID, WHO I HAD AN
ENORMOUS RESPECT FOR AND HE WAS
ONE OF THE BEST DALLAS CHIEFS
I'VE EVER SEEN SO FAR, HE HAD A
NO-CONFIDENCE VOTE SO IT IS NOT
UNCOMMON FOR RANK-AND-FILE
OFFICERS TO BE UNHAPPY WITH THE
UNCOMMON FOR RANK-AND-FILE OFFICERS TO BE UNHAPPY WITH THE@
CHIEF.
CHIEF.
CHIEF. BUT IN GENERAL PEOPLE WERE
READY TO SEE HER GO AND READY
TO HAVE A NEW START.
YOU KNOW IT IS INTERESTING
BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHO WILL
BE THE INTERIM CHIEF.
THE COMMAND AROUND HER IS
FAIRLY YOUNG+@ AND THEY'RE ALL
PEOPLE THAT SHE HAS PROMOTED.
THEY ARE NOT WHAT I WOULD CALL
VETERANS IN TERMS OF COMMAND
STAFF, THESE WERE PEOPLE
PROMOT+@ED VERY RAPIDLY.
HER SECOND-IN-COMMAND IS NOW
OVER AT CITY HALL AT SOME SORT
OF PUBLIC SAFETY JOB AND THERE
HAS BEE+@N SOME SPECULATION THE
MAYBE WOULD BRING HIM BACK BUT
HONESTLY I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
WILL HAPPEN ON THAT FRONT.>>
THAT WILL BE A CRITICAL THING
TO WAT+@CH FOR, NOT ONLY DO THE
STICK IN RING AND INTERIM ROLE
BUT ALSO THEY EVENTUALLY FILL
THE JOB WITH.+@
BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED WE
HAVE SEEN THIS WITH OTHER BIG
CITIES, INCLUDING FORT WORTH,
WHERE WE SEE TURNOVER AT THE
+@TOP OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS
+@TOP OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS@ WHAT A CRITICAL TIME THIS IS
HAPPENING NOW BECAUSE OF SO
MANY CHANGES IN POLICING.
WE HAVE THIS MOVEMENT TO NOT
FIND THE POLICE AND WE HAVE
SEEN DEMONSTRATIONS WERE POLICE
HAVE TO BE PRESENT, I WONDER
DOES IT REALLY CO+@MPLICATE THE
EFFORT TO DRAW TOP TALENT TO
DALLAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE OTHER
OPENIN+@GS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AS YOU SAID IT IS A TOUGH
JOB.>> ABSOLUTELY IT HAS TO
COMPLICATE THINGS.
COMPLICATE THINGS. ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS
DALLAS HAS NEVER HAD AN
HISPANIC CHIEF I CAN IMAGINE
THERE WILL BE A HEAVY PUSH
DALLAS TO HAVE AN HISPANIC
CHIEF.
CHIEF.
CHIEF. THE PERSON TH+@AT WOULD HAVE BE
THE MOST LIKELY HISPANIC CHIEF
IN DALLAS WOULD HAVE BEEN
CHARLIE KATO BUT HE LEFT FOR
MESQUITE FOR FIVE YEARS AGO.
ALBERT MARTINEZ LEFT TO BECOME
IN CHARGE OF THE CATHOLIC
DIOCESE IS A SECURITY FORCE,
AND SOMEONE'S NAME I HAVE HEARD
MENTIONED.
MENTIONED. IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING.
THERE HAS EVEN BEEN SPECULATION
THEY MAY TRY TO GO AFTER ART
ACEVEDO. YOU KNOW D+@AVID BROWN
GOT IT, BUT ART ACEVEDO IS AN
+@
+@ INTERESTING CHARACTER.
INTERESTING CHARACTER. HE HAS BEEN CHIEF IN AUS+@TIN A
NOW HOUSTON SO WHO KNOWS.
AN INTERESTING SPECULATION
WHILE WE ARE SPECULATING.
>> YET WILL HAVE TO SEE, HE HAS
BEEN SOUGHT AFTER AND A BIG
NATIONAL PROFILE AS HE LED THE
DEPART+@MENT IN HOUSTON BUT THI
WILL BE AN INTERESTING ONE TO
SEE PLAY OUT AND IT WILL BE
FASCINATING TO SEE IF WE GET
OUR FIRST HISPANIC CHIEF HERE
IN DALLAS, THE+@RE BEEN SEVERAL
FIRST IN RECENT YEARS INCLUDING
RENIE HALL, AGAIN THE FIRST
WOMAN TO LEAD THE DALLAS POLICE
DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCING TODAY
THAT SHE IS RESIGNING EFFECTIVE
NOVEMBER.
NOVEMBER.
NOVEMBER. I KN+@EW YOU WOULD BE A WEALTH
INFORMATION EVEN ON THE FLY
WITH THIS LATEBREAKING IS
COMING DOWN SO I