Amber Heard's attorney Elaine Bredehoft began to give interviews about the verdict of Johnny
Depp's lawsuit.
- Do you think Amber Heard is in fact a survivor of domestic violence?
- Yes.
I absolutely believe that and there's a tremendous amount of evidence much of which did not come
in this trial
And her body language revealed that this was a big mistake, for reasons that you're about
to find out:
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Well, it's no doubt that one of Elaine's jobs was to try to clean the public's perception
of Amber.
So she had to avoid any statements that put Amber under a bad light.
That's why, when Gayle King compared Amber's 'celebrity status' with Johnny's, THIS happened:
- I think that a lot of that was that it was Johnny Depp.
I think the celebrity status...
- But she's a celebrity, too - you serious?
- But she's a celebrity, too - But you have to remember, it's a tale of
two trials, all the evidence come in the UK
Yeah, she couldn't possibly say yes to that, so she avoided the topic completely.
That's why it's so important in any behavior analysis to pay attention when people just
don't answer the question or try to divert from the topic.
Because there must be a reason behind such evasion.
To make sure that Amber was perceived 'correctly' by the public opinion, Elaine had to plant
a NEW word related to her, and that could be one of the reasons she was wearing a green
blouse, a symbol for renewal and rebirth.
But... she had to choose this word:
- So, what the Depp's team learn from this?
demonize Amber and supress the evidence.
- Ah, and, so, what basically they did here is demonize her.
- You know, and that's because she was demonized here.
- You have to remember that what they learned from the UK case is to demonize Amber, which
is what they did
Yeah, what she didn't realize is that she's shooting herself in the foot, because she's
establishing a connection between her client and a very negative concept, so I think Elaine
is not aware that she's getting the exact opposite effect of what she intended.
And the other way that Elaine was trying to control the narrative was with this 'anecdote'
of Amber that she repeated in both interviews:
- And one of the first things that she said when she came back from the verdict, when
we went into the conference room was: I am so sorry to all these women.
- You know, one of the first things she said is: I am so sorry to all those women out there,
this is a setback
And that is insulting, because when it comes to victims of domestic violence, it doesn't
matter if you're a man or a woman.
This is another sad attempt at polarizing the public opinion.
I guess they are expecting women to go up in arms to defend Amber.
But well, at least there is ONE thing that Elaine said that her body language confirmed
as truth:
- Is she able to pay a 10.4 million dollar judgment?
- Oh, no.
Absolutely not.
She ain't lyin'
You can imagine that after this trial, Elaine is not a big fan of social media, and she
made sure to express her opinion about this:
- And it was horrible.
Really, really was lopsided, and I appreciate you saying that.
It's like the Roman Colloseum, you know, how they view this whole case.
But they made it a zoo.
It's easy to spot that this topic affects her emotionally, because she speaks giving
more emphasis to words, and displays an emotional reaction of taking your head back, which signals
that you don't like to talk about the subject.
You want to physically retreat from all those memes.
To be fair, I did my part, too:
- Do you rec... do you recall...
I'm trying, I'm trying - (Hello darkness my old friend)
- Uhm...
what if anything...
Now, we have to adress the very important question: Is Amber really going to appeal
this verdict?
Watch Elaine's body language when she answers and let's see if you can spot any emotional
clues:
- Does your client want to appeal?
- Oh, absolutely.
And she's got excellent grounds for it.
We've even tried to have the UK judgment in, to dismiss this case, because he already had
his shot
Now, a few details in here.
First, the timing of the answer was instant.
"Is your client interested in appealing, absolutely" it was immediate, so that tells us that it
was expected.
But Elaine's modulation of the word "Absolutely" was not the best, so she's got some reservations
about that answer.
Not to mention that she starts to tilt her head away from the interviewer, and even facing
to one side.
That's another signal that she wants to avoid the topic of the possible appeal.
Another difficult question: "Do you think Amber Heard is IN FACT a survivor of domestic
violence?"
Watch Elaine's reaction:
- Do you think Amber Heard is in fact a survivor of domestic violence?
- Yes.
I absolutely believe that and there's a tremendous amount of evidence much of which did not come
in this trial
At first I thought that I had seen Elaine turn her eyes to her right in a creative access
cue, but I made sure to compare with the moments when she was talking to Nate Burleson, who
was sitting to her right, to confirm that she was just keeping eye contact with him.
This is the kind of things that you should double check to not misinterpret these kind
of signals.
But there's an interesting contrast between the chin up when she says "I absolutely believe
that" and the chin down, defensive, on "a tremendous amount of evidence".
She's got reservations about that last statement.
And she is not specific about said evidence, either.
Now, not everything that Elaine said was about Amber.
In fact, when you watch the next clip, you will notice some nervousness in her.
And I spoiled the body language details on purpose.
Because I want you to pay attention to her words:
- I redo my closings a hundred times, afterwards, wether I win or lose.
That's part of being a good lawyer, a good trial lawyer.
There's always something.
But I think there were a lot of influences here that were beyond our control.
Yeah, she's basically trying to save face in a not so professional way.
In that short clip, she justified herself saying that she redid her own closings, that
this is a signal of what a good trial lawyer is, and that it SEEMS that there were some
external forces into play.
She's simply trying to fix the professional trainwreck that this trial was for her career.
So, that's the moment she revealed that there was also a personal intention behind these
interviews.
Back to body language, first impressions are paramount.
So, if Elaine decided to keep talking in behalf of her client, she had to make sure to give
the right message, including her nonverbal expression.
And her posture was a big obstacle.
For example, in the NBC news interview, she had to sit on a high turd... uhm, stool, and
it is a very uncomfortable position.
Notice that it doesn't give you much space, she has to keep her hads over her legs, and
her legs crossed at the ankles.
To be fair, this is not her fault, but still, since she's adopting this posture, people
are gonna perceive her like she's not sure about her own statements, or a lack of confidence.
Well, if I was defending Amber Heard, I would feel insecure too.
It's a good thing that she wore black, which is a very professional color and at the same
time makes you look powerful, and she took the time to express her ideas at a good pace.
But the moment I heard that Elaine was giving interviews about the verdict, I knew that
this was going to be a nice exercise on intentions.
In other words, answering the question: why exactly is she doing damage control by appearing
in public?
I suppose that Elaine's professional experience as an attorney was one of the reasons that
she landed this case, in the first place.
My doubts are based on HER ability, and the rest of Amber's legal team, to understand
the implications of body language in a trial.
And it includes what to do AFTER you lose the most visible trial of the last ten years.
The same way that Amber constantly looking to the jury when answering every single question
was very, VERY bad advice, it was equally bad advice for Elaine to be exposing herself
publicly afterwards.
Because if you lose the case and keep quiet, you're just a loser.
But if you go all out media tour, THEN you become a SORE loser.
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