Today we're going to have a look at
the managementology and how you can
set up and operate the basics of your Cloud environment.
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Hi my name is Thomas. I'm here with Wayne.
We're going to talk about
the managementology in the Cloud Adoption Framework.
But before we talk about that,
Wayne can you talk a little bit
about the Cloud Adoption Framework.
Hey Thomas. Great to be here.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah, I'm a huge fan.
I mean I've been doing this with customers for some time now.
When I came to think about the Cloud Adoption Framework.
This is really a customer's digital transformation framework.
It's really about helping them go from building a plan,
understanding the platform that they need to
build and ultimately get to the point where we can
stand up workloads and manage and operate
those workloads in the best possible way.
It is fairly dense,
it has got guidance for
both business people as well as technical people.
We've got to think a little bit about how do we
change the notion of Cloud from
being a place in a destination to a model
about how we can operate and run our business.
Now that's great. Again I think that's
a very important point you just made about.
It doesn't have just covered like technology, how to.
It's also about the management,
the processes and to people which are included in that.
One of the main challenges we see with
customers is how do they get their Cloud environment ready?
Can you tell us a little bit how people can do
that and how organizations can do that?
Yeah absolutely. Think about this in
the same way as if you were building a home.
You got to build a foundation,
you've got to make sure that you could
just services, your water,
your electricity, all your sewage lines kept plugged in.
When we stand up your foundation
within Azure you want to do the same thing.
We call this a landing zone.
That landing zone has a common identity paradigm and has
a common management platform it has
a common security platform that you build in at the core.
When we think about getting ourselves ready, you identify your plan
you know what you wanting to move and what you're ultimately
wanting to build your understanding motivations and drivers.
Then we start building the technical
foundational pieces within Azure.
With that, we've got to make sure that we're putting in things like
Centralized Logging we putting in management views and so on.
So that landing zone is absolutely
critical for us to be able to then
build highly mature-highly scalable environments moving forward.
Once we have built these landing zones and basically the
environment ready we also need to
operate and manage these environments.
What do you think about how
customers should and could manage their environments?
A lot of this comes down
to your operating model and so we've got a lot of
depth and a lot of guidance built within
the adoption framework today which
talks about the operating model.
But you can actually take a couple of views.
When we think about DevOps as a practice,
you want to look at how do we
distribute if we're going
on a more de-centralized type model how do we
distribute some of those operating principles
to those adoption teams that are actually building applications.
In a more centralized way, traditional IT will operate and manage
these environments but ultimately
you want to really think a little bit
about when you think about how do we operate,
how are we going to decentralize,
how are we going to empower people
to run and manage and manage those environments.
The adoption framework really helps you
make some of those decisions.
I find that every single customer I speak
to you rarely comes down to,
"Hey how do we think, how do we want to draw that velocity,
how do we want to make sure that we can really
get people to self-serve,
get into a place where we can
help manage and operate these environments in the right way?"
Think about their operating model,
think about the management that you're going to
apply and then from that platform
you've actually got the signals that you
can then actually utilize and
leverage within those operating structures
Next we also have well-architected framework.
We have to Cloud Adoption Framework
and well-architectural framework.
Can you tell me a little bit how the managementology in
the Cloud option framework aligns
with the well-architected framework?
Yeah, I'm a big fan or on what we've done with these two.
I like to look at them in that really
work hand in glove or on and they come in unison.
Think about the adoption framework as helping you
really get just get your digital transformation
moving forward and then Well-Architected is
really about taking those signals and
those indicators that you've
got coming out of your environment say can
we further improve and optimize
and iterate on those workloads that we're building.
There's many different areas within
well-architected framework that help
us improve the replication that we
have whether it be on cost security reliability.
You want to be able to have those signals coming in from
the environment and the Cloud environments
to give you indicated to say,
"Hey we're either going to be kind of excessive
on our costs or we've got security gaps that we need
address and then we use
the Well-Architected methodology to
really go deep on those applications and actually
look at how do we improve things in those specific
areas" We've got great assessment tools today
that the team of built which actually helps us
go down into those applications and connect to
the subscriptions that we've got in our environments to give
me a lot of good indicators of how I can improve.
Most notably like when you think about costs of
different types of licensing structures but also the way that we
architect applications into v
grayish egos charges depending on how we need to kind of build out
acts or applications that might need to stream across
different will be people at across
different regions and data centers.
It's great and again I love
the note and it's not just about managing.
It's also about optimizing the workloads,
the architecture, the applications running into Cloud.
Now we talked a lot about the Cloud now and obviously
a lot of our customers are running in
Hybrid and Multi-Cloud Environments.
There's something this Cloud Adoption Framework
can actually help us with.
There is a whole scenario that's been built around hybrid.
This is the one area that we seen
so many different conversations being popped up.
I mean we've got great technology
today that we talk about hybrid and hybrid across
identity hybrid kind of
network structures hybrid management tooling.
People would have heard about arc.
But when you think about
what's in the adoption framework today it really leads well
into helping customers look holistically at
their environment very few customers
look at it in one single aspect and say,
"We're only going to take the Cloud
view," There's always this question around how do I connect
back to the data that's sitting
on-premise and make sure that I can manage that in a right way
all right apply governance in the right way
across my entire environment.
Hybrid is there,
it's part of that management conversation especially as we
start to look at specific workloads in specialized workloads.
We're going to want to make sure that we address some of
the hybrid nature in the hybrid requirements.
Awesome now I love to see that we're not just building
something for Cloud-native organizations,
we also help customers with existing infrastructure as well.
Going back to the managementology you
see line of sight between customer strategy and management.
Yeah without a doubt. Usually when I'm talking
to customers around this kind of taught it look at
it in a continuum right so you start
off with you build your strategy and your plan.
Without your strategy and plan you have
motivations drivers business outcomes.
The key thing is making sure we really
clear on what those outcomes of many organizations
today use kind of OKRs or some form
of structured to be able to manage the outcomes that they have.
Now when I look at those markers and I go back and I
get across into my management conversations.
I want to look back and say,
"I'm I meeting those requirements and those outcomes that I
originally as part of my strategy.
I think connecting those two pieces helps you go full circle say,
"Hey we moved to the Cloud for a specific reason are now
being implemented a managing operating and running."
I'm actually checking to see how my meeting those requirements.
I think it's so that whole end-to-end really makes a lot of
sense when you when you kind of bring it
together in one more view.
I think it's one of the value pieces that I've seen what
the Cloud is where you start to break down
these silos of individuals who have traditionally worked in
very kind of siloed environments like I'm a networking guy,
I'm the security guy, I'm the infrastructure compute person.
How do we now move across those and kind of get people to
start working together in these
outside of the silos into this kind of v-Teams?
Lots of good guidance in the adoption
Framework as well around how to organize people.
I think spending some time they
really helps you make sure that you're
connecting that strategy right the
way through to the operations and management.
That's actually an excellent point.
I mean I speak to a lot of
IT operations people which
are managing currently existing infrastructures.
Now with these new Cloud environments,
what roles and functions do you
see managing these Cloud environments.
Yeah I think there's definitely
an evolution of overalls and people and the skills
that we have and so you'll take
your traditional infrastructure IT management folk.
They haven't learned code more than script more with.
We are seeing more obviously your deck so
kind of having to learn how to operate more and that's
a DevOps model but when I
think about those functions on those roles.
I typically look at it in a couple of ways you
have your strategy function that's setting course and direction.
You have your Cloud center of excellence that's actually out there
building culture and changing
culture and implementing tools and systems.
You then have your automation function that is helping you
script up everything because you want to build
as much as code so you get repeatability.
We have and obviously impacts management as well that.
You then have your governance function that
is cross plots of the business
that's things that think about that from
a finance perspective that governance perspective legal,
you've got security networking all
of them built helices governance function.
They are putting Godwills controls in place
and then you look at your adoption operations and platforms
teams that are actually out building applications
and retain your platform ops and managing.
As I think about those types of
functions in groupings of people you're not
a look across the organization to say wait
one find the best skills and I can I bring them together.
Roles and functions are
huge when we start talking about the Cloud and
how we can move things forward in the right way.
We want to bring people together
and you want to get people operating in
a much more agile active manner.
No absolutely. I mean especially when I talk to customers as
well like how do they put the optimization in place,
I think is a key question they have and with
the Cloud Adoption Framework and
the management mythology we are addressing that as well.
That's on point.
Just think about your end-users.
What do you end users have to
do now as they kind of start to evolve
because you get to a point where we've got things like
low code and no code type scenarios.
There's all the systems that they want to go and
access and so when you look at it from
a operations implementation management you want to
empower these users to be able to do more utilizing these tools.
It's not just an IT function anymore it's
definitely at business and kind of induce
a function as you start to think about how the Cloud
changes the dynamics of working.
Yeah absolutely I mean there's a lot of
opportunity there and I love that it comes real
together like technology and business
coming together to actually drive business value.
We only had a couple of minutes to talk about this
but if people want to learn more where do they go.
Yeah aka.ms/adopt that's
kind of a landing place that I go to it probably 20
times a day going to
the docs platform to actually
go and read up about the Cloud Adoption Framework.
From there you've actually got access
into well-architected as well.
I would absolutely use the Learning Path on
Microsoft learns at docs dot Microsoft.com/learn.
Absolutely tons of great content there for
both the Cloud option framework as well as well architected.
Those are the two resources today that I would absolutely
go and spend some time talking or looking at.
Then I think from a hybrid
perspective going India adoption framework
we've got a whole bunch of new content around various scenarios.
Some of those scenarios are data scenarios.
You've actually got scenario specific
industry we've got scenarios for hybrids,
we've got deep dives on security.
Spend some time we're really going through the adoption from
contribute understanding and utilizing that on as need be.
Thank you very much, Wayne. That was great and thank
you very much for everyone watching I hope to
see you in another episode and make sure you check out
the Cloud Adoption Framework on aka.ms/adopt.
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