EVERYBODY.
MY NEXT GUEST IS A STAND-UP COMEDIAN
( BAND PLAYING) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
WHO HOSTS THE IMMENSELY POPULAR PODCAST "WTF."
PLEASE WELCOME MARC MARON.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> WOW, I SHOULD HAVE-- I SHOULD
HAVE BROUGHT MY SUNGLASSES.
>> Stephen: YEAH, PRETTY NICE OUT HERE, ISN'T IT?
BRIGHT.
WE WERE JUST TALKING BACKSTAGE THAT WE GO WAY BACK, BUT I HAVE
NOT SEEN YOU IN YEARS.
>> IT'S BEEN A WHILE, YEAH.
>> Stephen: FOR REASONS THAT NOBODY HERE WOULD POSSIBLY KNOW,
WE KNOW EACH OTHER FROM 19-- DAMN-- 90... WHEN WAS IT?
'93.
>> OOFS LIKE '94, I WAS HOSTING A SHOW ON COMEDY CENTRAL.
I WAS HOSTING A CLIP SHOW CALLED "SHORT ATTENTION STAND THEATER."
>> Stephen: S.A.S.T.
IT WAS ON 23rd SHOW, MY FIRST TV SHOW CALLED "EXIT 57."
>> AND THERE WERE A LURC BUNCH O YOU.
YOU WERE ALL IN AN OFFICE HAVING A GREAT TIME.
AND I WAS JUST IN THE NEXT OFFICE OVER BY MYSELF BROODING.
LIKE, I'D HEAR YOU GUYS LIKE, "YAY!
WE'RE GOING TO DO A SKETCH."
AND I'D BE LIKE, "OH, GOD, MY LIFE SUCKS!"
>> Stephen: THAT WAS THE SOUND OF PANIC YOU WERE HEARING FROM
OUR OFFICES.
WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING.
>> IT SOUNDED SO FUN, THOUGH, STEPHEN.
YOU WERE SO YOUNG AND FULL OF LIFE.
>> Stephen: WEREN'T WE ALL, THOUGH, WEREN'T WE ALL?
>> NO I WAS FILLED WITH HOSTILITY AND ANXIETY.
YOU SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE HAVING A GOOD TIME AND I WANTED TO BE
PART OF IT BUT YOU NEVER LET ME YOU.
>> Stephen: NEVER ASKED.
>> I THINK I DID ASK.
I SAID, "HEY, COME ON I WANT TO BE IN ON THE FUN THING."
AND THEY WERE LIKE, "NO, TALK SHOW."
>> Stephen: BILL MAHR WAS THERE-- "POLITICALLY CORRECT"
HIS OFFICE WAS NEXT TO MINE.
>> DID YOU EVER SEE HIM?
>> Stephen: HE WOULDN'T TALK TO ME.
>> I NEVER SAW HIM.
I SAW PICTURES OF HIM.
I THOUGHT HE WAS A GHOST.
I KNEW THE SHOW TAPED THERE.
>> Stephen: I SAW HIM WALK DOWN THE HALL SOMETIMES.
REMEMBER AIR AMERICA RADIO?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: YOUR OLD GIG.
WHAT WAS THE NAME OF YOUR SHOW.
>> MORNING EDITION, FROM 6:00 IN THE MORNING TO 9:00 IN THE
MORNING.
I GOT UP AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING --
>> Stephen: WAIT A SECOND.
>> DID YOUR SHOW.
I CAME ON A 6:00 A.M. SHOW.
>> IT WAS ALL LIKE A DREAM.
>> Stephen: THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ME AT ALL.
>> YOU WERE BARELY YOURSELF.
>> Stephen: I HAD A GOOD TIME.
>> WE HAD FUN.
>> Stephen: DO YOU MISS TALKING ABOUT POLITICS?
I STILL TALK ABOUT IT A BIT.
BUT I'M AS SCARED AND ANGRY AS THE NEXT GUY.
I'VE BECOME FRIGHTENED OF MY PHONE.
>> Stephen: WHY, WHY?
>> BECAUSE YOU HAVE A NEWS BROWSER.
YOU A NEWS BROWSER ON YOUR PHONE.
AND YOU WAKE UP AND YOU'RE LIKE, "OH WHAT DID HE DO WHILE I WAS
SLEEPING!" ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT-- YOU HAVE THAT MOMENT LIKE, "I DO
CHECK IT NOW?
SHOULD I HAVE COFFEE FIRST?
HOW IS THIS GOING TO GO?" YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
GOOD.
THERE WON'T BE ANY POINT IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS WHERE WE OPEN
OUR NEWS BROWSER AND G, OH, EVERYTHING WORKED OUT!"
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
FOR A WHILE AT THE BEGINNING I COULD NOT IDENTIFY WHAT THAT
FEELING WAS, THAT TERROR OF LOOKING AT THE NEWS ON MY PHONE.
IT WAS VISCERAL.
I COULD FEEL IT.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY AKIN TO LIKE AN ABUSIVE STEPFATHER
KICKING YOUR BEDROOM DOOR IN TO GO, " I'M BURNING THE HOUSE
DOWN!" AND HE JUST LEAVES AND SHUTS THE
DOOR BEHIND HIM AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE GOING, " I SHOULD
LEAVE, RIGHT?
SHOULD I LEAVE?" >> Stephen: AND THE ONLY THING
THAT CALMS YOU DOWN AT ALL IS, "I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS HOW TO
WORK A MATCH."
( LAUGHTER ) ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> THE THING-- THE THING THAT'S TERRIFYING, THOUGH, IS ALL THE
NEWS IS PRETTY HORRIBLE IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN MIND.
>> Stephen: SURE.
>> AND-- BECAUSE, I'M-- I'M LITERALLY, SOMETIMES I DON'T
UNDERSTAND-- LIKE, I LITERALLY EVERY DAY GO, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT
HE'S GOING TO DO NEXT.
AND I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM KNOW EITHER BUT I
THINK THEIR TONE IS DIFFERENT.
I'M LIKE, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO NEXT."
BUT I THINK THEY'RE LIKE, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO
NEXT, MAN!
THIS IS CRAZY."
YOU'RE LIKE, "WHY THE HELL DID YOU VOTE HIM HIM?"
AND THEY'RE LIKE, "SHOULD THE HELL UP."
AND I'M LIKE, "THAT'S WHAT HE RAN ON, THAT'S WHAT HE RAN ON."
>> Stephen: I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR PODCAST "WTF."
YOU STARTED THIS IN YOUR GARAGE, RIGHT?
>> YES, SIR.
IT'S STILL IN MY GARAGE.
>> Stephen: REALLY.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
LOOK WHERE YOU ENDED UP IN A NICE, BEAUTIFUL THEATER.
I WORK OUT OF MY GARAGE.
I HAVE A VERY SHORT COMMUTE TO WORK.
LAW LAU( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: WHEN HUOBAMA ON-- >> YES.
>> Stephen: IT WAS IN YOUR GARAGE?
>> YEAH HERE, CAME OVER.
>> Stephen: THE PRESIDENT CAME INTO YOUR GARAGE?
>> IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT HAPPENED.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE-- WHEN I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, I
THOUGHT I'M GOING TO GO TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AND MY PRODUCER
BRENDON WAS LIKE, "NO, HE WANTS TO COME OVER."
AND I WAS LIKE, "THAT'S CRAZY.
I LIVE IN A TWO-BEDROOM HOUSE, ONE BATHROOM AIR, GARAGE.
AND NOW THE PRESIDENT IS COMING OVER.
IT'S NOT A CASUAL DROP-IN.
I HAD TO ASK MY NEIGHBOR IF IT WAS OKAY IF WE PUT SNIPERS ON
HIS ROOF.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: THAT'S NICE.
THAT'S NICE.
>> HE'S RETIRED.
HE WAS THRILLED.
HE SAID, "THAT SOUNDS GREAT!
SOMETHING'S HAPPENING."
>> Stephen: YOU'VE GOT A NEW NETFLIX SHOW CALLED GL SECOND
SEASON.
>> THE GORGEOUS LADIES OF WRESTLING.
>> Stephen: WHEN I REMEMBER.
THAT WAS A REAL THING.
EXPLAIN WHO THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO THE GLOW WERE.
>> IN THE 80s, THERE WAS A SHORT-LIVED TV SHOW RIDING ON
THE COATTAILS ON THE WAVE OF PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING AND IT
WAS ALL WOMEN AND IT WAS RAW AND INSANE.
>> Stephen: THEY WERE LADIES.
>> YEAH, OKAY FINE.
AND THIS SHOW, THIS SHOW IS BASED ON THAT.
IT'S A FICTIONALIZATION OF THAT SO IT'S NOT BASED ON THEIR
ACTUAL LIVES.
IT'S IN THE MID-80ss, ME AND 14 WOMEN ON A WRESTLING SHOW.
I PLAY A DOWN-AND-OUT CRANKY, COCAINE-ADDLED,
MANAGER-DIRECTOR-- WHICH WAS A STRETCH FOR ME.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: WELL, WHEN DOES IT TAKE PLACE, WHAT YEAR?
>> IN THE MID80.
>> WE'RE ABOUT THE SAME AGE.
I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE IN '86.
WHAT ABOUT YOU?
>> ABOUT THAT.
>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE TO BRING YOUR MEMORIES OF THE 80s
TO THE SHOW?
>> SURE, I DO.
I WENT TO COLLEGE AND THEN I WENT TO HOLLYWOOD BEFORE I ENDED
UP BACK IN NEW YORK TO BE A COMEDIAN.
AND I DID MY GRADUATE WORK IN COCAINE IN HOLLYWOOD.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: OH, WOW, WOW.
>> YEAH, IT WAS INTENSE.
IT WAS AN INTENSE COURSE.
IT WAS A YEAR.
>> Stephen: MASTER'S?
Ph.D.?
>> IT ALL HAPPENS AT ONCE.
WHEN YOU'RE STUDYING COCAINE, IT ALL COMES AND THEN-- AND THEN
EVENTUALLY YOU'RE SICOT AND I CAN YOU HAVE TO LEAVE AND STOP.
SO-- SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE DIANY DRUGS, ALMOST 20
YEARS CLEAN AND SOBER.
( APPLAUSE ) BUT THE FUNNY THING WAS-- THANK
YOU.
ARE BUT HERE'S-- HERE'S WHERE IT PAID OFF.
I GET CAST AS THIS GUY, AND HE-- YOU KNOW, HE'S A COCAINE GUY.
AND I KNOW ABOUT COCAINE.
SO THE WOMEN THAT CREATED THIS SHOW, LIKE, I HAD A LOT OF IDEAS
ABOUT THIS GUY BUT I WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT ONE THING.
I WALKED UP TO THE WOMEN WHO WERE CREATORS, WHO WERE KIND OF
NERDY WOMENS, THAT'S NOT AN INSULT.
I WALKED UP TO THEM.
I SAID THIS GUY IS EYE USE PERP HE DOESN'T SHARE HIS COKE.
NO VIAL.
HE KEEPS IT IN A SPINDLE FROM A CUT-OUT EXPHAGZ DOES IT WITH A
PEN TOP AND A KEY AND THAT'S IT.
AND THE TWO WOMEN LOOK AT ME AND CARROLL SAYS, "WE'RE SO GRAD
YOU'RE HERE."
>> Stephen: SAVED ON CONSULTANTS.
WELL, GREAT TO SEE YOU, MAN.
"GLOW"" COMES OUT THIS FRIDAY ON NETFLIX.
MARC MARON, EVERYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY JASON ISBELL.