>>> WERE BACK AND CONTINUING
OUR CONVERSATION.
AS FOR HOW THE GOP VIEWS THE
ISSUE OF RACE HEADING INTO THE
MIDTERM ELECTIONS, AXIOS HAS
THIS FOR US TODAY.
WITH OR WITHOUT DONALD J. TRUMP
ATOP THE PARTY, THE REPUBLICAN
STRATEGY FOR THE 2022 ELECTIONS
AND BEYOND, VIRTUALLY ASSURES
RACE AND RACISM WILL BE
INVOLVED.
REPUBLICANS SEE THIS MOST
DIVISIVE ISSUE AS EITHER
POLITICAL NECESSITY OR AN
ELECTION WINNER.
SO THATS WHERE WE ARE.
STILL WITH US, EUGENE ROBINSON
AND MIKE MURPHY.
I WANT TO START WITH A QUOTE
FROM MY FAVORITE COLUMNIST WHO
LOOKS SHOCKINGLY LIKE YOU.
SAYING, THERE WHO THOSE WHO DENY
THAT ANYTHING CALLED SYSTEMIC
RACISM IS A FEATURE OF THE
AMERICAN LANDSCAPE.
THEY SHOULD KNOW THIS IS VERY
DIFFERENT FROM WHAT AMERICAN HISTORY SAYS.
HISTORY SAYS.
THIS SAID, WHAT SHOULD THE
CONVERSATION ON RACE IN AMERICA
BE?
>> FIRST OF ALL, A CONSISTENT
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF OUR FULL
HISTORY.
AS I PUT IN THAT COLUMN, TULSA
WAS ARGUABLY THE WORST, BUT
CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY WHITE MOB
MASSACRE OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
IN THE EARLY DECADES OF THE 20th
CENTURY.
THIS WAS NOT A ONE-OFF.
IT HAPPENED IN ATLANTA IN 1906,
IT HAPPENED IN SO MANY CITIES IN
1919 THAT IT WAS CALLED A RED
SUMMER.
THESE WERE WHITE RIOTS AIMED AT
DESTROYING BLACK BUSINESSES
WHICH WERE COMPETING WITH WHITE
BUSINESSES, AIMED AT KILLING AND
INTIMIDATING BLACK WORKERS WHO
WERE COMPETING AGAINST WHITES
SUCCESSFULLY FOR JOBS IN THE
GROWING INDUSTRIAL ECONOMY.
AND THIS IS PART OF OUR HISTORY.
THE RIGHT WING IS ALL A-FLUTTER
ABOUT CRITICAL RACE THEORY, AND
I GUARANTEE YOU THAT 0.001% OF
THOSE CRITICS HAS EVER READ ONE
OF THE DRY, ACADEMIC JOURNAL
ARTICLES ABOUT CRITICAL RACE
THEORY OR EVEN THOSE -- THATS
NOT THE POINT.
ITS THE HISTORY, AND LEARNING,
AND ACKNOWLEDGING AND COMING TO
TERMS WITH WHAT HAPPENED.
WHEN WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PHRASE
SYSTEMIC RACISM MEANS.
BUT REPUBLICANS DONT WANT TO GO
THERE.
AND AS A MATTER OF THE CULTURE
WARS, THEY BELIEVE THAT VOTERS
DONT WANT TO GO THERE.
WANT TO RESIST IT.
AND WHATS WHAT THIS IS REALLY
ABOUT.
BUT HISTORY HAS A WAY OF
WINNING, OF MAKING ITS EFFECTS
KNOWN, NO MATTER WHO TRIES TO
STOP THIS PHENOMENON.
SO WERE GOING TO KEEP TELLING
THE TRUTH.
>> I POINTED THIS OUT LAST
NIGHT, THERES A SUPERB PIECE IN
YOUR PAPER AGAIN, SHOWING THE
VARIOUS MASSACRES OVER THE
YEARS.
YOU DONT REALLY HAVE TO READ IT
IF YOU DONT WANT TO.
LOOK AT THE MAP.
THE PLACES, THE DATES, AND THE
DEATH TOLLS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
THE CYCLE THAT TULSA WAS PART
OF, THE HISTORY TULSA IS PART
OF.
MIKE, THERE IS A POLL OUT FROM
AXIOS AND IPSOS, THEY CAN
PROBABLY PARTNER WITH QUIZNOS IN
THE FUTURE.
MORE CHANGE NEEDED AMONG WHITE
DEMOCRATS IF YOU ASK THEM, YES.
87%.
ENOUGH CHANGE ALREADY, SOUNDS
LIKE THE LATE JERRY STILLER IS
WRITING THE QUESTIONS.
AMONG WHITE REPUBLICANS, 79%.
THERES BEEN JUST ABOUT ENOUGH,
WERE FINE.
SO, MIKE, 8 IN 10 RESPONDING
REPUBLICANS, ISNT THAT THE CORE
THAT SO MANY POLITICIANS ARE
AIMING FOR RIGHT NOW, WHETHER
THEY ADMIT IT OR NOT?
>> WELL, YEAH.
THATS PART OF IT.
BUT OFTEN THE KEY TO A GOOD
CAREER IN POLITICS IS TO MAKE
POLLS, NOT FOLLOW THEM.
MY BUDDY JOHN ENGLER SAID, POLLS
BORE ME, THATS WHERE WE WERE A
WEEK AGO.
WHAT WERE STRUGGLING WITH IN
POLITICS NOW IS THIS IDENTITY
GROUPISM WE HAVE.
THERE IS A LEGACY OF SYSTEMIC
RACISM IN OUR COUNTRY, BUT
MOVING FORWARD, WHEN IT BECOMES
GROUP VERSUS GROUP, AND THATS
THE KEY LENS, THEN PEOPLE DIVIDE
UP INTO TRIPEDESCRIBES AND PEOPL
LIKE TRUMP SHOW UP.
SO HOW CAN WE CREATE A NEW,
BETTER HISTORY?
LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, PEOPLE
OF COLOR DONT HAVE THE SAME NET
WEALTH AS CAUCASIANS DO.
THATS A GAP WE HAVE TO CLOSE.
I WANT TO SEE A FREE MARKET
REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT.
MY PROGRESSIVE FRIENDS HAVE
OTHER IDEAS, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE
THAT DEBATE.
WE NEED COMMON FACTS, BUT WE