>> EXACTLY AND THERE’S A REASON FOR THIS BAFR WHICH HASEHAVIOR S
WHICH HAS RATCHETED UP.
I THINK THE MICHAEL COHEN NEWS
IS MAKING HIM CRAZY.
GEORGE CONWAY, HUSBAND TO THE
PRESIDENT’S COUNSELOR, KELLYANNE
CONWAY, FOUND HIMSELF ON THE
RECEIVING END OF A PRESIDENTIAL
TWITTER TAKEDOWN IF THAT’S WHAT
YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THE PRESIDENT CALLED CONWAY A
TOTAL LOSER, ADDING THE
COMMENTARY TO A TWEET FROM HIS
RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN MANAGER,
BRAD PARSCALE, WHO CLAIMED THE
PRESIDENT TURNED DOWN CONWAY FOR
A JOB AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
AND TRUMP DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HIM.
>> PRETTY GOOD.
TWO LIES IN ONE SENTENCE.
>> THOSE TWEETS FOLLOW SEVERAL
BY CONWAY, QUESTIONING THE
PRESIDENT’S MENTAL FITNESS,
EXPLAINING HIS CONSTANT
CRITICISMS OF TRUMP TO "THE
WASHINGTON POST."
WASHINGTON POST." CONTRARY TO THE CLAIMS IN
PARSCALE’S TWEET, HE DECIDED NOT
TO WORK AT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
AFTER THE PRESIDENT OFFERED HIM
A POSITION, HEADING THE CIVIL
DIVISION.
DIVISION. HE CITES TRUMP’S ATTACKS AND THE
FIRING OF FORMER FBI DIRECTOR
JAMES COMEY IN EARLY 2017 FOR
HIS DECISION AND SPEAKING ABOUT
SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER,
CONWAY TELLS THE POST HE
REMEMBERS HEARING ON THE RADIO
ABOUT MUELLER’S APPOINTMENT.
QUOTE, I’M THINKING TO MYSELF,
THIS GUY IS GOING TO BE AT WAR
WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FOR
THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
I’M NOT DOING THIS.
CONWAY TELLS THE PAPER HE TOOK
TO TWITTER EARLIER THIS WEEK TO
QUESTION THE PRESIDENT’S MENTAL
HEALTH.
HEALTH. IN PART, TO AVOID A CONFLICT
WITH HIS WIFE, QUOTE, IT IS SO
MADDENING TO WATCH THE
MENDACITY, THE INCOMPETENCE.
IT’S JUST MADDENING TO WATCH.
THE TWEETING IS JUST THE WAY TO
GET IT OUT OF THE WAY, OFF MY
CHEST AND MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE.
THAT’S BASICALLY IT, FRANKLY SO
I DON’T END UP SCREAMING AT HER
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. >> OF COURSE, JAKE, HE HAD DONE
WORK FOR DONALD TRUMP AT TRUMP
TOWER
TOWER TOWER.
TOWER. THESE PEOPLE LIE THINKING THEY
CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO
SAY AND THE FACTS WILL NEVER GET
IN THEIR WAY.
THE FACTS ALWAYS GET IN THEIR
WAY.
WAY. WHAT A FASCINATING DYNAMIC
BETWEEN GEORGE CONWAY AND THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> IF YOU PUT THESE TWO THINGS
TOGETHER, THE McCAIN INCIDENT
AND THE CONWAY INCIDENT, TO ME,
IT TELLS A LARGER STORY.
AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, GEORGE
CONWAY DID LEGAL WORK FOR THE
PRESIDENT AND WAS IN TALKS ABOUT
A JOB AND ON THE McCAIN ANGLE
TRUMP SAID YESTERDAY I KNOW
THERE WAS A LOT OF HEAT AROUND
WHAT HE WAS SAYING, ACTING QUITE
ANGRY BUT HE SAID SWRM CALLED
AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE FOR
THE HEALTH CARE BILL.
WE KNOW THAT’S NOT HOW THIS WENT
DOWN, BECAUSE JOHN McCAIN, HOURS
BEFORE THE SPEECH IN THE 2:00 TO
3:00 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DAY GAVE
A PRESS CONFERENCE ON LIVE
TELEVISION WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM
SAYING THERE’S VERY LITTLE
CHANCE I’M GOING TO BE FOR THIS
BILL.
BILL. SO, AGAIN, THOSE -- IT JUST
DOESN’T COMPORT WITH THE REALITY
AS WE KNOW IT.
WHEN YOU PUT THOSE TWO INCIDENTS
TOGETHER, IT SHOWS THAT THERE’S
A DETACHMENT FROM THE FACTS AS
WE KNOW IT.
MAYBE THE PRESIDENT KNOWS
SOMETHING THAT IS PLAINLY NOT
OBVIOUS TO ANYBODY ELSE BUT IT
WOULD SEEM UNLIKELY.
>> YOU COULD TAKE JUDICIAL
NOTICE OF ANY COURTROOM IN THE
STATE OF FLORIDA, KRISTIN.
HOW IS IT THAT PEOPLE IN MY
FORMER PARTY ARE ABLE TO LISTEN
TO THIS GUY, SUPPORT THIS GUY
WHEN THEY TELL LIES?
AGAIN, WHO SAID LET’S GO TO THE
TAPE?
TAPE? GO TO THE VIDEOTAPE.
LET’S GO TO THE VIDEOTAPE.
IT’S RIGHT THERE.
>> THERE’S AN INTERESTING
PATTERN I’VE PICKED UP IN A
VARIETY OF FOCUS GROUPS I DO
AMONG REPUBLICANS TO HEAR HOW
THEY’RE THINKING ABOUT THINGS.
PEOPLE DON’T USUALLY KNOW WHO
THEY’VE BEEN INVITED TO SIT
WITH.
WITH. THEY DON’T YET KNOW THEY’RE IN A
ROOM FULL OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO
THINK LIKE THEM.
THE MOMENT THEY FIGURE OUT THAT
THEY’RE INSIDE A SAFE SPACE WITH
OTHER REPUBLICANS, THEY’LL BE
MORE WILLING TO CRITICIZE THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. I WISH HE WOULD STOP THE
TWEETING.
TWEETING. I WISH HE WOULD KNOCK IT OFF.
BEFORE THAT MOMENT THEY’RE VERY
HESITANT TO COME OUT AND SAY
ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM.
THEY’RE SAYING I DON’T WANT TO
BE THE ONE ATTACKING HIM TO
PEOPLE WHO ALREADY DON’T LIKE
HIM.
HIM. RELATED TO THAT, THEN, IS THEY
DON’T LIKE IT WHEN IT SEEMS THAT
A REPUBLICAN IS CRITICIZING THE
PRESIDENT BECAUSE IT’S OUTSIDE
THE FAMILY.
THE FAMILY. IT MAKES IT SEEMS LIKE THEY’RE
TRYING TO BOOST THEIR OWN
PROFILE VERSUS THE PRESIDENT AND
I THINK THAT’S WHY YOU’RE SEEING
A LOT OF THESE REPUBLICANS SIT
SILENT.
SILENT. THEY DON’T WANT TO GET THAT
BLOWBACK.
BLOWBACK. THAT’S WHY SOMEBODY LIKE MITT
ROMNEY MAY NOT CARE.
>> HOW COULD YOU GET BLOWBACK
FOR DEFENDING JOHN McCAIN
AGAINST BEING --
>> IT’S SUCH A CLAN.
IT’S THE SAME THING.
DEMOCRATS, DURING BILL CLINTON’S
TERM, EVEN BEFORE MONICA, WE
WOULD BE IN THE HOUSE.
THEY WOULD BE TRASHING HIM
NONSTOP.
NONSTOP. WE WOULD BE AT THE HOUSE DINING
ROOM.
ROOM. THEY WOULD ALL BE TRASHING HIM,
NONSTOP.
NONSTOP. AND THEN THE LIGHTS WOULD TURN
ON, CAMERAS WOULD TURN ON.
THIS IS A VAST RIGHT-WING
CONSPIRACY.
CONSPIRACY. BASICALLY SAYING THIS IS A WITCH
HUNT.
HUNT. KEN STARR IS AN EVIL MAN, A
PERVERT, THIS, THAT.
I SAW FRIENDS I HAD GREAT
RESPECT FOR SAYING PRIVATELY IF
HE’S LYING ABOUT THIS, IF HE’S
COMMITTING PERJURY, I’M GOING TO
HAVE TO VOTE TO IMPEACH.
HE WOULD BREAK THROUGH EVERY
BARRIER THEY WOULD SET UP AND
THEY WOULD STILL SUPPORT HIM.
THIS IS IMPORTANT WHAT YOU’VE
TOLD US.
TOLD US. MAYBE IT EXPLAINS SOME POLLING
THAT I DON’T QUITE UNDERSTAND,
WHICH WILL SAY 85% -- 234% OF
REPUBLICANS SUPPORT DONALD
TRUMP, RIGHT?
TRUMP, RIGHT? THEN YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE DONALD TRUMP TO
HAVE A PRIMARY OPPONENT?
THAT NAME IS 50, 60% IN SOME
STATES.
STATES. I’VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO SQUARE
THOSE.
THOSE. IF 85% OF REPUBLICANS ARE ALL IN
FOR THIS GUY AND SAY THEY
SUPPORT THEM, WHY DO OVER HALF
IN OTHER STATES WANT AN
OPPONENT?
OPPONENT? >> YOU HAVE POINTED OUT THAT THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOT 234% IN
FOR DONALD TRUMP.
THEY JUST DON’T LIKE THE IDEA
WHEN IT’S DONALD TRUMP VERSUS
ANYONE ON THE OUTSIDE, THEY MAY
TAKE THE SIDE OF DONALD TRUMP.
>> DONALD TRUMP VERSUS NANCY
PELL OES
PELL OES PELOSI, DONALD TRUMP VERSUS THE
PRESS.
PRESS. DONALD TRUMP VERSUS KAMALA
HARRIS.
HARRIS. >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. AND I THINK THAT’S WHY WHEN YOU
SEE DONALD TRUMP CRITICIZING,
SAY, GEORGE CONWAY, THE CHARGE
HE LEVELS THAT HE’S A LOSER.
HE’S TRY INGING TO MAKE A NAME F
HIMSELF BY COMING AFTER ME.
HE’S TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR
HIMSELF BY BEING THE GUY THAT
CRITICIZES ME.
CRITICIZES ME. THAT’S ONE OF THE WORST CHARGES
YOU CAN LEVEL WITHIN SORT OF THE
REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE, THAT
SOMEONE IS TRYING TO GO AGAINST
THE PRESIDENT TO MAKE THEMSELVES
LOOK GOOD.
LOOK GOOD. >> MIKE?
>> MIKE? >> KRISTEN, DO YOU EVER POSE THE
QUESTION TO THESE CONFLICTED
REPUBLICANS IN THESE FOCUS
GROUPS, WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT
TO YOU, BEING AN AMERICAN
CITIZEN OR BEING A REPUBLICAN?
>> IF I ASKED THAT, PEOPLE WOULD
ALL SAY IT’S BEING AN AMERICAN
CITIZEN.
CITIZEN. IF I HAD A DOLLAR FOR THE NUMBER
OF TIMES IN FOCUS GROUPS PEOPLE
OF ALL PARTIES SAY I DON’T VOTE
THE PARTY.
THE PARTY. I VOTE THE PERSON.
PEOPLE DON’T THINK OF THEMSELVES
AS PARTISAN.
AS PARTISAN. BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS THAT YOU
HAVE A LOT -- THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT CAME UP LAST TIME I WAS ON
THE SHOW.
THE SHOW. THEY QUITE LIKE SOME OF THE
POLICIES THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS
ADVANCED.
ADVANCED. AND AS A RESULT, ANYBODY WHO
SEEMS LIKE THEY’RE STANDING IN
HIS WAY OR CRITICIZING THEM,
THEY GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK.
THAT’S WHY SOMEONE LIKE A
LINDSEY GRAHAM, I ASSUME
PRIVATELY HE DOES NOT LIKE WHAT
THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING.
DOES HE WANT TO GET INTO A FIGHT
WITH TRUMP OR SIT SILENT AND GET
POLICIES PASSED?
POLICIES PASSED? >> THEY WOULD GET THE SAME
ANSWER THAT THE DEMOCRATS WOULD
HAVE GIVEN IN THE LATE ’90s.
DEMOCRATS TIME AND TIME AGAIN
SAYING IF HE HAS COMMITTED
PERJURY, I’M DONE WITH HIM.
PAT MOYNAHAN SAID I’M GOING TO
VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT.
WELL, HE DIDN’T.
NONE OF THEM DID.
SO AGAIN IT’S A TRIBAL THING.
BUT IT IS -- I’M JUST WONDERING
ON CAPITOL HILL -- I SUSPECT YOU
HEAR THE SAME THING OFF THE
RECORD FROM A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
THAT I HEARD FROM DEMOCRATS
DURING CLINTON’S IMPEACHMENT.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. 100%.
100%. AND I THINK THAT UNIVERSE OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO EVEN
SAY IT OFF THE RECORD HAS GOTTEN
SMALLER BECAUSE THE HOUSE
REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE, NOW THE
CORE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
THE BULK OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN
AND, FRANKLY, SENATE REPUBLICANS
AT THIS POINT.
THE MODERATES AND THE NONTRUMP
FOLKS, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE MORE
SKEPTICAL OF TRUMP WERE SWEPT
OUT OF OFFICE IN WHAT CAN ONLY
BE DESCRIBED AS A WAVE AND THOSE
WHO ARE LEFT ARE REALLY THE
REALLY TIGHT TRUMP ALLIES, AND
THAT’S KIND OF THE REALITY OF
IT.
IT. WHEN YOUR PRIMARY, POLITICAL
HURDLE IS A PRIMARY CHALLENGE
FROM THE RIGHT IT’S WHERE YOU
HAVE TO BE.
IT’S SELF PRESERVATION.
IT’S THE ONLY OPTION AT THIS
POINT.
POINT. BUT I THINK THAT’S FAIR TO SAY,
THAT PEOPLE ARE -- GET TIRED
WITH HIM.
WITH HIM. IT’S GOTTEN JUST BAKED INTO THE
CAKE AT THIS POINT.
AND FOR ALL -- YOU COULD SAY A
LOT ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE PAUL RYAN,
BUT AT TIMES HE DID SPEAK OUT
AGAINST HIM.
AGAINST HIM. IT WASN’T ENOUGH FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE BUT THERE WERE TIMES THAT
HE DID.
HE DID. THERE’S NOBODY WHO WILL ANYMORE
REALLY.
REALLY. >> GO BACK TO THE NATIONAL
EMERGENCY VOTE LAST WEEK.
WE LOOKED DOWN THAT LIST OF
REPUBLICANS WHO CLAIM TO BE
CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVES.
CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVES. WE’RE WILLING TO HAND OVER THE
POWER OF APPROPRIATION TO THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
TOM TILLIS IN NORTH CAROLINA,
PEOPLE HAVE SAID PUBLICLY I WILL
PRIMARY YOU IF YOU VOTE AGAINST
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
STATES. >> TOM TILLIS WROTE AN OP-ED.
>> THEN FLIPPED ON IT, BEN SASSE
AND OTHERS.
AND OTHERS. >> HARVARD LAW SCHOOL OR
SOMETHING?
SOMETHING? >> I MEAN COME ON.
COME ON.
COME ON. TOM, COME ON.
>> ALSO ROY BLUNT GOT DISINVITED
FROM A REPUBLICAN DINNER AFTER
VOTING TO REJECT THE PRESIDENT’S
EMERGENCY DECLARATION IN
MISSOURI.
MISSOURI. >> THAT’S SUCH A TERRIBLE,
TERRIBLE -- WHAT?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
THAT’S LIKE A GOOD DAY.
>> ROY, HERE IS THE DEAL.
YOU’RE WELCOME AT OUR HOUSE ANY
TIME.
TIME. >> AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO GO TO
THAT DINNER.
THAT DINNER. YOU’RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
THAT’S A PUNISHMENT?
>> THESE QUESTIONS ARE AT THE
HEART OF THE CYNICISM.
>> ALL THE CHICK-FIL-A HE WANTS.
I LOVE IT MYSELF BUT WE’LL GIVE
YOU HONEY MUSTARD.
>> LOTS TO GET TO, INCLUDING WHY
THE PRESIDENT IS ACTING SO
STRANGE?
STRANGE? BARBECUE ACTUALLY.
BARBECUE ACTUALLY. >> I WAS AT THE ATLANTA AIRPORT
THE OTHER DAY, FRESH OUT OF
THE --
THE -- >> WILL IIE, WHY IS THE PRESIDEN
ACTING SO STRANGE?
>> YOU DON’T GET THAT UP NORTH.
>> NO, YOU DON’T.
ONE OTHER THING ABOUT PRESIDENT
TRUMP DENYING HIS RELATIONSHIP
WITH GEORGE CONWAY AND THE WAY
HE FEELS ABOUT HIM, "NEW YORK
TIMES" REPORTED RECENTLY THAT
STEVE MNUCHIN’S WEDDING, DONALD
TRUMP WENT UP TO GEORGE CONWAY
AND SAID GOOD MOVE TURNING DOWN
THAT JOB AT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT.
DEPARTMENT. YOU DON’T WANT TO WORK FOR A
WEAK LEADER LIKE JEFF SESSIONS.
>> OH, LORD.
>> THAT’S A "NEW YORK TIMES"
REPORT.
REPORT. >> WHY IS HE ACTING THIS WAY?
>> OBVIOUSLY LIES.
>> HE DOES.
HE LIES ALL THE TIME.
TELLING THE TRUTH WOULD BE
BETTER.
BETTER. >> OR --
>> OR -- >> THIS IS A STORY YOU WERE
REFERRING TO EARLIER.
>> WHAT A BURGER I HAVEN’T HAD A
WHAT A BRGER IN FOR --
>> HAD ONE OF THOSE IN AUSTIN,
TEXAS, A WEEK AGO.
>> HAVE YOU REALLY?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> I LOVE IN AND OUT BURGERS.