Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul and it's time to celebrate Thorsday
with a bang as we're gonna be breaking down the ending of Thor Love And Thunder.
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of Thor Love and Thunder.
So the film ends with both Jane and Gorr dying with the latter entrusting Thor to look after
his daughter Love.
Love is played by Chris Hemsworths real life daughter and his son also makes an appearance
as a younger version of Odinson.
Thematically the movie is very much about love, loss and also finding love beyond the
loss when the heart starts to heal.
This is reflected in Love who Thor ends up taking care of at the end of the film.
He weilds Mljonir whilst she weilds Stormbreaker and he raises her as his own kid, making breakfast
for her and getting her ready for what's to come.
However it's very bitter sweet as Jane isn't there and the first major thing I wanna talk
about is her death and the post credits scene.
In that we watch her reach the gates of Vahalla and here she's greeted by none other than
Heimdeel who of course was killed at the beginning of Infinity War.
Now the story of Jane is heavily based on the Mighty Thor run and if you go off that,
there's actually a big chance that she's gonna come back.
Now in both the comics and film, we pick up with Jane as a cancer patient who is going
through chemotherapy.
The outlook is pretty bleek and it's through this that she's led into becoming The Mighty
Thor.
Now in the source material, Jane received her diagnosis whilst Thor was off fighting
Gorr in a book that we'll talk about in just a bit.
She underwent treatment and whilst this was going on, Thor ended up becoming unworthy
due to a fight with Nick Fury.
Mjolnir was left on the moon and from here it reached out to Jane who then travelled
to it with the help of Heimdall.
Upon reaching it she gained the power of the God which took her from a Thordinary woman
into the Mighty version that she ended up becoming.
Now in the film we discover that Jane and Thor spent a lot of time together between
the events of The Dark World and Ragnarok.
They were great, in love, she’d go do science, he’d go fight battles, and they lived together
for some time.
However the pair grew apart due to their individual insecurities and she ended up breaking up
with him by leaving a note.
couldve sent an email
Really great sequence of events and an important part in this montage is that we learn Thor
told Mjolnir to protect Jane at all costs.
Similar to how Odin created a sigil upon uttering the worthiness spell in the first film, doing
this also binds the Hammer to her which ends up being the reason that the pair become linked.
In the film we catch up with Jane as she's going through Chemotherapy and see a patient
reading her book The Foster Theory which we first heard being discussed all the way back
in the first Thor movie.
This involved the idea that one could travel through gateways in space and we get a little
reference to the worm hole explanaition from Event Horizon and Interstellar.
Eric Selvig can't cure her cancer, there's a visit from Darcy and Lady Sif also helps
to set up the rules that one must die in battle in order to get into Vahalla which we'll talk
about in just a bit.
There's also a nod to Sifs costume in the comics as well as the thunderstrike thor one
that he wore in the 90s.
She ventures out to New Asgard which is overseen by King Valkyrie and the pieces of the hammer
are on display there.
There's also a play with Matt Damon as Loki once more, Sam Neil as Odin, and Luke Hemsworth
as Thor.
This time though they're joined by Melissa McCarthy who's playing Hela.
Now after Jane gets Mjolnir she ends up gaining the power of Thor but this also worsens her
cancer.
We get the reason for this discussed in much greater detail and it basically boils down
to this.
Because Thor is a God the cells in his body are strengthened and his immune system is
extremely powerful.
This makes it capable of wiping out all toxins and diseases within seconds and this ends
up backfiring on Jane.
Because the chemotherapy drugs attack cells, a God's body would see this as a threat and
instantly wipe out the treatment in the blood.
However, because all of the cells within a God's body are hardened the tumour itself
also became more resiliant and this killed Jane faster than it would had she not become
Thor.
Now throughout the movie she teams up with Odinson and together they set out on a quest
to stop Gorr The God Butcher.
The constant transformations end up taking a toll on her body and by the end of the film
she dies in his arms.
Throughout the movie there's jokes about how she can't nail down a catchphrase and she
whispers it into his ear at the end.
Thor says it's perfect and though we don't hear what it is...I'd like to think it's something
really stupid like every Rose has it's Thor.
Now this arc is similar to the comics and in those she transformed one last time in
order to stop Mangog from destroying Asgard.
Here it's a lot simpler but we can actually see where things go in the comics to roughly
plot out how she'll return.
Now she comes across Heimdell at the gates of Vahalla and because she died in battle
she'll be able to enter it.
In the comics something similar happened but Thor ended up calling her consciness back
and he channeled the God Tempest through the broken Mjolnir which ended up resurrecting
her.
Jane vowed to focus on the second chance she'd been given and she turned away from being
The Mighty Thor in order to focus on her chemotherapy.
She ended beating the disease and eventually Jane became A Valkyrie which is how I think
that Jane will return.
I can see there being a bit of a break before her next appearance but I do think that the
post credit scene at Vahalla teases that they are following the same story.
I think that she will return to the land of the living because fate wills it so and that
she and Thor will end up raising Love together, instilling in her the best qualities that
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Now Gorr is an incredible villain in the film and Christian Pale really brings his all as
the God Butcher who's here to murder everyone in the heavens along with Paul Allen.
His arc in the movie is heavily based on the Thor God Of Thunder Run in which he made his
debut.
In that book we got a really indepth look at his psyche and discovered that he came
from a barren wasteland where he had to fight to survive every single day.
Because the people of the planet had so little they became devoutly religious and they'd
cry out to the Gods every day to help them.
If they survived they believed that the Gods had blessed them with whatever scrap of food
or water that they came across and they became highly superstitous.
Gorrs mother was killed in front of him when he was very young and though he escaped her
final words instilled in him the feeling that he should always look to higher powers for
help.
However after the death of his wife and child he started to curse the Gods and fearing retribution
for having a blashphemer amongst them, his tribe cast him out to die in the cruel wastelands.
At this point he came across two Gods dueling that had crash landed on the planet and one
carried with them the Necrosword, a powerful blade that in the comics is carried by the
God Knull.
Here due to bloody Sony, f**king Sony, Marvel didn't include him likely because Sony would
make them sign a contract where they acknowledge Morbius exists and that he's gonna be in the
thunderbolts or something.
Anyway the Golden God wins but badly beaten he cried out to Gorr for help.
Gorr realised that these Gods he'd worshipped were weak and self centred and he vowed to
kill them all for not liking the video and subscribing.
Now the prologue of the film changes things up and in that we join Gorr and his daughter
who are left in the sweltering ruins of their home planet.
She ends up dying and he wanders the wasteland until he comes across a lush oasis which is
occupied by the God that he'd prayed to.
Similar to the comics he'd just defeated the weilder of the Necrosword and he's there basking
in the glory whilst Gorr is at death's Gorr.
Ey.
Now Gorr plead to him to deliver the divine reward that was promised to his followers
but the God mocks him which leads to the necrosword reaching out to Gorr.
Before the God can kill him he claims his first victim and it shows him a flash of Eternity.
He utters the words all Gods must die and goes after each one of them like they Odin
money.
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Ey, Odin money, that's a good un.
Now the film also takes other notable elements from the graphic novel run as we get the story
narrated to us by Korg.
He pops up telling the story at several points and in the comics Thor actually narrated the
tale to one of the youngsters on the planet.
He'd arrived there to find that there were no Gods which led him to discover that the
ones who ruled over it had been taken out by Gorr but Korg recounts the times that Thor
fell in love.
He's now decided to cut himself off from it and now just travels with the Guardians, believing
his only purpose is to be a warrior that people call upon.
Starlord shares some similarities with him as he lost Gamora similar to how Thor loses
Jane but he hammers home the idea that it's better to have loved and lost than to never
have loved before.
After learning of Gorr he sets out to his next target at New Asgard and Thor comes across
Jane.
Gorr ends up kidnapping the children of New Asgard including Heimdalls kid Axel which
confirms the fan theory that Heimdall f**ked.
They're taken by Gorr and Axel reaches out to Thor Heimdall style and using a tourist
boat, Thor and co out across the cosmos to recruit an army of The Gods.
There's a nod to Tom Cruises film cocktail and they arrive at Omnipotence City.
In the comics this was an area that Thor travelled to as it housed the Hall Of The Lost, a library
that contained details on every missing God.
It basically created a roadmap for Thor to trace Gorrs butchering and here he came across
Falligar The Behemoth who he also runs into in the movie.
The shot looks exactly the same as how it does in the comics but instead of being the
Hall Of The Lost, Omnipotence City actually is housing a ceremony hosted by Zeus.]
Lots of cameos here including Gods, Dragons and Celestials who of course appeared in the
tv spot.
It would be the perfect place to have a Gorr recruitment drive but Zeus is very much showboating
and he refuses to join the fight.
Telling the crowd there's nothing to fear he actually admits to Thor that he's terrified
and he's a good example of why you should never tweet your heroes.
Thor grew up idolising him and he was Thor's childhood hero, however this shatters his
view of the Gods and he sort of reflects Gorrs questioning of the deities.
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Now Thor believes that Zeus killed Korg and he ends up catching one of this lightning
bolts which he then launches back at him, seemingly killing him too.
I say seemingly because as we learn in the other post credits scene, the God is actually
alive and he's p*****d.
Zeus is alive and Russell Crowe will likely be returning as the big bad for the next film
as he and pretty much everyone hates Thor.
He talks about how people used to worship Gods without even knowing whether they existed
or not and how times have changed.
They used to pray for lightning and rain but now when they look to the sky they want to
see Superheroes.
Zeus wants everyone to become God fearing once more and he will no doubt reign terror
on the worshippers that turned their back on him.
Zeus is also joined by his son Hercules who we see is played by Brett Goldstein.
You might recognise him from Ted Lasso, Derek and The Pact.
Hercules has been a major part of Marvel comics for a while now and due to the character being
out of copyright they've milked him like a Homelander scene.
Now having all the myths and legends tied to the character made it easy to flesh out
his backstory and in the comics he's got the exact same origin story.
This includes his banishment from Olympus, his Twelve Labours and everything they covered
in the Disney movie that they're now making into a live action movie...yaaay...another...nother
one of them.
In the comics he's had several run ins with Thor over the millenia and he once led a crusade
against his Viking followers.
The pair had somewhat of a rivalry in the past, however, for the majority of their time
together they've been allies.
Hercules has been part of The Avengers and during the New Labours run he stated that
Thor was one of his mightiest friends.
Therefore I think that he will actually end up working with the God Of Thunder and that
they'll end up fighting his father along with Love and potentially Jane as a Valkyrie.
This has some basis in the comics and Zues was put on trial shortly after the events
of Secret Invasion.
This was carried out by his brother Pluto and though it was pretty much a mock trial
used purely to determine his guilt, they could adapt it into the upcoming films.
As I said, Zeus was found guilty and he was forced to drink from the River Lethe which
turned him into a child, possibly signifying where things can go in the future without
turning Thor into a God Butcher himself.
I think this is why they did the fake out in the film as it kinda defeats the point
of taking out Gorr if Thor is murdering Gods himself.
Anyway he ends up taking the Gods thunderbolt and they set out on a journey to the Shadow
Realm.
In the comics Gorr had found a way to travel through time, lots of timey wimey wibbly wobbly
stuff and we actually met three version of Thor in the comic.
One from the past, present and a much older version of the God who had been fighting Gorr
for 900 years.
In this dystopian world, Gorr had kidnapped several of the young Gods and he had them
working on a device known as the God Bomb which was capable of destroying every single
God throughout the timeline.
The three thors battled it out with Gorr and all the Gods prayed to Thor which granted
him with enough power to absorb the bomb.
He was aided by Gorr's son who turned against his father after realising that he had killed
his mother.
She had been brought back by Gorr and she patientily waited until the day he'd killed
all the Gods so that they could spend some time together like my wife when I tell her
we can go on holiday once the MCU ends.
She ended up calling him a God because he'd managed to become an immortal, fueled by his
hate that decided the fate of all the other Gods.
Realising he'd become the very thing he hated he ended up killing her and he became The
God of Hipocracy.
Gorr was killed in the comics but he goes on somewhat of a redemptive arc in the movie.
We discover that he wants to use the bifrost to open a gateway to Eternity.
In the comics Eternity is an entity that actually embodies they entire Marvel Universe and he's
very much the universe as much as the universe is him.
There's also a statue room in the film that is filled with the heads of The Watcher, Lady
Death, Eon and the living tribunal who's been popping up a lot recently.
In the movie, getting to Eternity allows you to make a wish and Gorrs is presumably to
kill all the gods.
He ends up getting Stormbreaker after an incredible fight scene that feels like one of the most
visually enthralling moments in the MCU.
Valkyrie is stabbed and Jane is left really weak due to the cancer.
One more transformation is gonna be a one way trip for her and similar to the comics,
she has to later decide whether to sacrifice herself in order to save Thor.
After this everyone returns to Earth and Thor tells Jane to rest up whilst he goes and fights
Gorr.
He then ventures out to Eternity and has a battle with Gorr at the Gates Of Eternity.
This is where the kids have been taken and Thor ends up empowering them which is abilities.
Thor and Gorr go head to head with the former losing badly.
At this point Jane decides to take on the Mighty Thor mantle and she arrives to help
out.
The Necrosword is destroyed but during this time the doors of eternity open and Gorr goes
forward.
In this place sits Eternity and Gorr and Thor have a bit of a back and forth.
Gorr could wish for the gods to be wiped out and Thor chooses to spend his potential last
moments with Jane who is also dying too.
Thor tells him that what he really wants is love and that he can wish for his daughter
to return.
Gorr thinks that she'd be alone because he's also dying but Jane says that she won't be.
Gorr makes this wish and both he and Jane die with the former telling him to look after
his child.
As the movie ends Korg says that he's now found love himself with a guy named Dwayne,
Sif helps to train the children of Asgard and Thor is raising Gorr's daughter.
They are very much the love and thunder with Stormbreaker and Mlojnir also representing
this too.
The movie also has a big nod to the mighty Thor Run as we get a statue of Jane that looks
exactly like how it did in the comics.
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Now as for my thoughts on the film, I think it was a really solid entry and though I probably
prefer Ragnarok overall, this still had some really great moments, I think you can tell
there were some bits of it left on the cutting room floor and had the movie even been just
15 minutes longer that they would've helped to flesh out just certain things.
I loved Christian Bale in the movie but I really wish that we got more of him because
he's not in the film as much as I think he shouldve been.
The comics had Gorr as a major antagonist throughout the whole God Of Thunder Run and
here he's not in it enough to knock it completely out the park which I think he was very close
to doing.
The guardians as well feel underdeveloped and I wish we got more of their adventures
together so we could really feel the comraderie.
I think also that the tone of the movie can be a bit up and down at points and though
some of the jokes didn't fully land for me, most of them did which made it a good laugh.
Chris Hemsworth just embodies the God Of Thunder and Natalie Portman by far has her best performance
as Jane Fonda...sorry Jodie Foster...
Moving on.
There's lots of neat easter eggs too such as the Space Dolphins, Infinity Conez, several
of the Gods and the aesthetic of the final battle works really really well.
Loved the black and white chrome feeling to the entire thing and those last couple of
scenes really hit me in the feels.
Just a shame that they had to cut some stuff down as I think the emotional beats would've
hit even harder if they'd left them in.
Overall I am wrestling back and forth between giving this a 7 or an 8 and I think that it
probably falls more towards the lower number just because of the hangups I have.
Still though I dont think its the worst Thor movie ever like a lot of reviewers are making
out and to me it falls just short of Ragnarok with that movie feeling like it had more room
to breathe.
So yeah 7.5/10 maybe but that could definitely pick up on subsequent watches.
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