WITH JUDGE GENIUS /* JEANINE.
THIS IS "THE FIVE."
>> EVIL SWEPT ACROSS UVALDE
YESTERDAY.
ANYONE WHO SHOOTS HIS
GRANDMOTHER IN THE FACE HAS TO
HAVE EVIL IN HIS HEART. IT IS FAR MORE EVIL FOR SOMEONE
IT IS FAR MORE EVIL FOR SOMEONE
TO GUNDOWN LITTLE KIDS, IT IS
INTOLERABLE.
>> Jesse: WE’RE GETTING
BRAND-NEW DETAILS ON THE
HEARTBREAKING TRAGEDY.
POLICE GIVING MORE INSIGHT INTO
HOW THIS TERRIBLE EVENT
UNFOLDED.
JEFF PAUL IS ON THE GROUND WITH
THE LATEST.
JEFF.
>> YEAH, JESSE, WE’RE STARTING
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SHOOTING
AND ABOUT THE SUSPECT.
ACCORDING TO TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG
ABBOTT, HE SAYS ABOUT 30 MINUTES
BEFORE THE SHOOTING, THE SUSPECT
SENT MESSAGES ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IN ONE HE WROTE HE WAS GOING TO
SHOOT HIS GRANDMOTHER.
IN ANOTHER HE WROTE HE DID IN
FACT SHOOT HIS GRAND DLT MOTHER
AND A THIRD, HE SAID HE WAS
GOING TO GO SHOOT UP A NEARBY
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE SUSPECT CRASHED HIS TRUCK
NEAR ROBB ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
FROM THERE HE BARRICADED HIMSELF INSIDE A FOURTH GRADE CLASSROOM.
INSIDE A FOURTH GRADE CLASSROOM.
19 STUDENTS AND TWO TEACHERS.
OFFICERS RESPONDED WITHOUT
HESITATION.
>> THE REASON IT WAS NOT WORSE
IS BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS DID WHAT THEY DO.
THEY SHOWED AMAZING COURAGE BY
RUNNING TOWARD GUNFIRE FOR THE
SINGULAR PURPOSE OF TRYING TO
SAVE LIVES.
>> SHORTLY AFTER MAKING THAT
STATEMENT, THAT NEWS OCCURRENCE
WAS THEN INTERRUPTED BY TEXAS
DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL
CANDIDATE BETO O’ROURKE, BEFORE
HE WAS REMOVED BY POLICE
OFFICERS HE TOLD THE GOVERNOR
THAT HE WAS DOING NOTHING AND
THIS WAS TOTALLY PREDICTABLE.
JESSE.
>> Jesse: JEFF, THANKS A LOT.
GREG, YOU HAD TIME TO THINK
ABOUT WHAT’S HAPPENED.
WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH US?
>> Greg: YOU KNOW, THIS IS
TERRORISM AND LIKE TERRORISM,
YOU FIND A WAY TO PREVENT AN
ATTACK AFTER IT OCCURS, RIGHT?
THAT IS WHEN YOU SEE THE
VARIABLE YOU MISSED.
IF YOU HADN’T MISSED THE
VARIABLE, THE ATTACK WOULD HAVE
BEEN PREVENTED.
YOU DON’T SEE BLIND SPOTS UNTIL
SOMETHING OCCURS.
RACISM, LAWLESSNESS OR GUN
CONTROL. THE LAST FOUR MASS
SHOOTINGS, HISPANIC MALE, WHITE
MALE, BLACK MALE, ASIAIRCRAFTS N
MALE.
ALL MALES, OBVIOUS.
ONE TRAIT THAT DOESN’T MATTER IS
RACE.
MALENESS, THIS IS NOT DEFENSE OF
THE KILLING.
I LOOK OUTSIDE OUR STREETS, THE
KILLER, AND YOU SEE SO MANY
BROKEN PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
TREATED.
THEY MAY BE TUCKED AWAY AND THE
PANDEMIC MAKES IT WORSE THROUGH
ISOLATION.
WE HAVE A COLLECTION OF AIMLESS,
DISTURBED, MENTALLY ILL MALES.
IN THIS CASE, HE WASN’T
PREVENTED BECAUSE OF AGE.
WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO, LIKEOUR MASS
KILLERS ARE GETTING YOUNGER AND
YOUNGER AND YOUNGER BECAUSE THEY
DON’T HAVE A HISTORY.
LIKE THE INVERSE OF WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE THERE IS DECREASE
BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO SEE
HISTORY OF VIOLENCE IN OLDER
MALES AND MORE SECURITY.
IN THIS CASE, THEY GET YOUNGER,
THOSE ARE ONES THAT CAN GET AWAY
WITH IT BECAUSE OF NO HISTORY.
HE WAS ABLE TO BUY A GUN BECAUSE
HE HAD NO CRIMINAL HISTORY.
HE POSTED 30 MINUTES BEFORE,
THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO ACT.
>> Jesse: THAT IS INTERESTING,
MALE COMPONENTS, BEING ABLE TO
PURCHASE THE WEAPON BECAUSE YOUR
SLATE IS CLEAN.
AND MISSED WARNING SIGNS,
MARTHA.MARTHA
>> GREG MAKES A GREAT POINT.
THE THING IN COMMON, MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUE.
ALL OF US WHEN WE STARTED TO
LEARN WHAT HAPPENED HERE
YESTERDAY, YOU GO RIGHT BACK TO
SANDY HOOK, IT HAS A LOT OF
SIMILARITIES.
YOU HAVE THIS YOUNG MAN AND I
THINK ABOUT IN ADAM LANCE’S CASE
WE LEARNED THERE HAD BEEN
EFFORTS TO COMMIT HIM.
HE WAS AFRAID HIS MOTHER WAS
GOING TO DO THAT TO HIM.
ONE THING THAT HAS BROKEN DOWN
IN SOCIETY IS THAT OPTION, THE
OPTION OF RELYING ON AN
INSTITUTION, A HOSPITAL, WHERE
SOMEONE WHO IS NOT ABLE TO
FUNCTION IN SOCIETY CAN GO FOR
TREATMENT.
WHAT HAPPENED, DECADES AGO, WE
DECIDED THESE PLACES WERE NOT
OPERATING WELL, AND SOME
WEREN’T, SOME WERE HORRIFIC.
THE THING IS WE DECIDED TO
MAINSTREAM EVERYBODY AND
MEDICATE EVERYBODY.
NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT
IN THE PUBLIC WHO MAYBE CAN’T
FUNCTION THAT WAY.
IT IS INTERESTING TO ME, I WENT
ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE HIGH
SCHOOL AND ONE THING WE LEARNED,
HE WASN’T GOING TO GRADUATE.
THIS IS DEVASTATING FOR SOMEONE
HIS AGE.
HE WORKED AT A WENDY’S, HE
DROPPED OUT DURING COVID, THIS
IS A NEXUS IN TERMS OF THE
ISOLATION THAT WAS HAPPENING, AT
THIS POINTS, WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT
HIS PARENTS, THERE ARE REPORTS
HIS MOTHER HAD TROUBLE WITH
DRUGS.
GRADUATION IS THIS FRIDAY NIGHT.
THERE ARE PICTURES OF KIDS
GRADUATING AND THEY HAVE
PICTURES UP AND DOWN THE STREET
IN TOWN, THEY ARE PROUD OF THE
KIDS GRADUATING.
THIS IMPACT, THESE ARE NOT
EXCUSES, THESE ARE DATA POINTS
AND THINGS PERHAPS SOMEBODY
COULD HAVE PICKED UP ON AND WE
WILL TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT BLOCK
AND THE SCHOOL SECURITY ISSUE.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
THEY WERE DOING A LOT, DIDN’T
SEEM TO BE WORKING.
>> Greg: JEFF BROUGHT IT UP AT
THE BEGINNING, BETO O’ROURKE
CRASHED THE PRESS CONFERENCE.
LET’S PLAY THAT.
>> GET OUT OF HERE, THIS IS NOT
THE PLACE.
>> THIS IS TOTALLY PREDICTABLE.
>> SIR, YOU ARE OUT OF LINE.
YOU ARE OUT OF LINE.
YOU ARE OUT OF LINE, PLEASE
LEAVE THIS AUDITORIUM.
>> GET OUT OF HERE.
>> I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU, YOU ARE
A SICK -- TO COME TO THIS AND
MAKE A POLITICAL ISSUE.
>> THE PERSON WHO CALLED HIM A
SICK SON OF A -- THAT WAS THE
MAYOR OF THE TOWN THIS HAPPENED
AT, JEANINE.
>> Judge Jeanine: IT IS TEXAS
AND THAT WAS ABOUT AS
INAPPROPRIATE AT TIME THE
GOVERNOR WAS RECOGNIZING THE
PAIN, GRIEF, HEALING THEY ARE
TRYING TO BEGIN, THE FACT THEY
HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED AND WILL
REMAIN TRAUMATIZED THAT SMALL
TOWN FOR DECADES, ESPECIALLY THE
CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL AND FOR
HIM TO COME MAKE A POLITICAL
STATEMENT IS SUCH A CHEAP
POLITICAL SHOT AND I BELIEVE HE
SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT DOWN FOR
THAT.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR
POLITICS, TODAY IS TIME TO
RECOGNIZE THE HORROR THAT HAS
BEEN IMPOSED UPON THIS TOWN AND
THESE FAMILIES AND THESE
VICTIMS.
IT IS A TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
WE CAN DO SO NO OTHER CHILD HAS
TO SUFFER THIS KIND OF DISASTER
OR TRAUMA AGAIN.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL
ILLNESS, ONE THING THAT CONCERNS
ME IS IT IS JUST THIS KIND OF
BLOB, MENTAL HEALTH, THE BUFFALO
SHOOTER TAUGHT US THAT WHEN
SOMEONE SEEMS INCAPABLE OF
FUNCTIONING IN OUR SOCIETY, WE
SEND THEM FOR A 730, WHAT I USED
TO DO WHEN I WAS A JUDGE, I
WOULD SEND THEM FOR A
PSYCHIATRIC REVIEW.
NOW THEY DO PSYCHIATRIC REVIEW,
LETTING HIM OUT.
THE GOOI IN BUFFALO GOES OUT AND
KILLED 10 PEOPLE, THE GUY WHO
TRAVELED TO BUFFALO, I SHOULD
SAY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT
NECESSARILY MENTALLY INSANE.
THIS IS NOT INSANITY.
INSANITY IS YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE
YOU ARE, YOU ARE IN A STATE YOU
CAN’T TELL TIME OR RELEVANCE OR
WHAT IS GOING ON.
THIS GUY IS PREDICTING WHAT I’M
GOING TO DO, HE IS SAYING, I
JUST DID IT, NOW I’M GOING TO DO
THIS.
THE QUESTION IS HOW WE CAN COME
TOGETHER AND HEAL.
THE PAIN FOR EVERYONE, I DON’T
CARE IF YOU ARE PROGRESSIVE,
RIGHT-WING PERSON, I DON’T CARE
WHAT YOU ARE.
WE ALL PLEAD.
I’M A MOTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER
AND I GRIEVE FOR THIS KIND OF
TRAUMA.
WE ALL IMAGINE IT HAPPENING TO
OUR LOVED ONES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO
IS MAKE SURE WE START
PROSECUTING CRIME AND I’M NOT
GOING TO BE POLITICAL HERE, I
WANT TO PROSECUTE CRIME AND GUN
CRIME.
I WANT TO KNOW AND WE’LL TALK IN
THE NEXT BLOCK, THE CRUMBS,
THERE WERE CRUMBS, WE KNOW HE’S
FROM A BROKEN HOME.
WE KNOW HE’S A LONER.
WE KNOW HE WAS SELF-INJURING
HIMSELF.
WE KNOW THAT HE WAS MADE FUN OF
BECAUSE HE HAS A LISP AND HE
WORE EYELINER.
WE KNOW THERE WAS VIOLENT
RHETORIC FROM PEOPLE HE WORKED
WITH AND HE WAS ISOLATED, DOES
THAT MEAN WE CAN GO OUT AND
ARREST HIM?
NO.
LET’S NOT THROW IT AT MENTAL
HEALTH.
WE’LL TALK IN THE NEXT BLOCK.
>> Greg: GERALDO, SAY YOU SEND
SOMEONE TO A PSYCHE WARD AND
THEY ARE NOT INSANE, THEY ARE
EVIL, SOCIOPATH, HOW DO YOU
ADDRESS THAT?
>> Geraldo: I DON’T KNOW, I
THINK WE HAVE TO COME TO GRIPS
WITH THERE IS MENTAL ILLNESS IN
EVERY COUNTRY ON EARTHS, BUT
THESE MASS SHOOTINGS, WHY IS IT
HERE THEY RESULT IN SUCH
SLAUGHTER?
I WANT TO SAY A DIFFERENT THING,
GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
I AM SORRY AND ASHAMED WE
HAVEN’T DONE MORE TO PROTECT
CHILDREN.
I WAS LISTENING TO JEFF PAUL’S
REPORT JUST THEN AND HE TALKED
ABOUT HOW ALL OF THE FATALITIES
WERE FROM THAT ONE CLASSROOM.
19 CHILDREN AND TWO TEACHERS.
SO REGARDLESS OF THE KIND OF
WEAPON YOU HAVE, TAKES TIME, YOU
GOT TO SHOOT, SHOOT, SHOOT.
IMAGINE THE TERROR THAT THESE
CHILDREN IN THAT ROOM ARE
FEELING WHEN THIS ANIMALS NOW
KILLING THEM.
HE’S BARRICADED HIMSELF IN THEIR
CLASSROOM AND HE IS KILLING
THEM, JOHNNY AND MIKY AND THIS
IS THAT.
I CANNOT FATHOM THE TERROR THAT
THESE CHILDREN ENDURED.
I MEAN, FOR THAT, ALL OF US,
THERE IS NO IDEOLOGY, THERE IS
NO DIFFERENCE, LEFT, RIGHT,
PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS THE WAY WE
FEEL, HOW IS THE HUMAN BEING
CAPABLE OF THAT KIND OF
DESPICABLE HEARTLESSNESS?
IT IS -- YEAH.