CNN GOT A LITTLE HEATED FOR UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS,
HARRY HOOK VERSUS MARK LAMONT HILL.
HARRY HOOK WOULD SAY SOME THINGS THAT HE WOULD BE CALLED OUT ON.
AFTERWARDS I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE ACTUAL FACTS AND
FIGURES TO SHOW YOU WAS RIGHT AND WRONG.
THIS THING ABOUT THE DISPARITY OF BLACKS AND
WHITES IN JAILS, THAT'S GOTTA STOP BECAUSE I'VE GOT
STATISTICS RIGHT HERE WHICH WILL PROVE ME RIGHT.
IN NEW YORK STATE ALONE, BLACKS ARE 22% ñ
OF THE POPULATION JUST
THEY MAKE UP 70% OF ALL SHOOTINGS,
70% OF ALL ROBBERIES AND 60% OF ALL VIOLENT CRIMES.
THE WHITES, ONLY 3%.
THAT IS WHY THERE ARE MORE BLACKS IN JAIL THAN THERE ARE
WHITES.
I'M GOING TO FINISH HERE AND THEN YOU GO.
YOU LOOK AT THAT STATISTIC, THEY TURN IT AROUND, THE RACIAL
DEMAGOGUES OUT THERE, TURN AROUND THAT THE BLACKS ARE
BEING PICKED ON.
I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT.
THEY ARE.
YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE
TO CHANGE THAT.
YOU DON'T MEAN IT BUT PEOPLE ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY.
CHRIST THE CHIEF WILL BACK ME UP.
CRISES NOT GOING TO STAND ON NATIONAL TV AND SAY BLACK
PEOPLE ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY.
I'M HOPING YOU JUST DON'T KNOW ñ
70% OF ñ
HARRY ñ
THAT'S WHAT YOU DO ñ
HOLD ON A SECOND.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
TO SAY THAT BUT PEOPLE ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY!
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
HE ASKED HIM IF THAT'S WHAT HE SAID AND HE SAID OF COURSE.
IT'S ON TAPE.
HE THREW OUT A SERIES OF STEPS THERE.
BY THE WAY, HARRY HOOK IS A FORMER NYPD DETECTIVE.
GOD HELP US ALL THAT THESE ARE THE COPS THAT ARE LOOKING
OVER US.
BUT PEOPLE ARE ARRESTED MORE, OKAY.
I HAD A FORMER BALTIMORE COP ON THE YOUNG TURKS, MICHAEL
EDWARDS, WHO EXPLAINED PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT
THEY ONLY GO AND HARASS PEOPLE IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS,
BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THEY ARREST PEOPLE IN RICH
WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY WILL GET IN TROUBLE.
YOU WANT TO HIT A JUDGES KID, SOMEONE POWERFUL, SO WE GO
TO THE POOR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL THE NUMBERS.
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST, "BLACK AMERICANS ARE TO HAVE TIMES
AS LIKELY AS WHITE AMERICANS TO BE SHOT AND KILLED BY
POLICE OFFICERS."
THAT'S A FACT.
"UNARMED BLACK AMERICANS WERE FIVE TIMES AS LIKELY AS UNARMED
WHITE AMERICANS TO BE SHOT AND KILLED BY A POLICE OFFICER."
THEY ARE BOTH UNARMED.
FOR THAT STUDY THEY ARE LOOKING JUST AT PEOPLE WHO WERE
SOUGHT BY COPS THAT WERE UNARMED.
BLACK PEOPLE WERE FIVE TIMES LIKELY ñ
MORE LIKELY TO BE SHOT EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE UNARMED.
PEOPLE SAY BLACKS ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY, THAT'S WHY WE
HAVE TO SHOOT THEM.
IN THAT CASE THEY WERE ON ON, THERE'S NO COMMONALITY.
I'VE GOT MORE STATS ON THAT ISSUE AS WELL.
"OF ALL THE UNARMED PEOPLE SHOT AND KILLED BY POLICE INTO THE
15, 40% OF THEM WERE BLACK MEN, EVEN THOUGH BLACK MEN MAKE
UP JUST 6% OF THE NATION'S POPULATION."
BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
"ACCORDING TO FBI ABOUT 90%
OF BLACK HOMICIDE VICTIMS WERE KILLED BY OTHER BLACK PEOPLE.
THE WHITE ON WHITE MURDER RATE THAT SAME YEAR WAS 82% OF ALL
MURDERS OF WHITE PEOPLE."
YET YOU ALMOST NEVER HEAR OF WHITE ON WHITE CRIME, AND YOU
ALMOST NEVER HEAR OF REPORTERS ON TV SAYING, WE HAVE GOT
TO FIX WHITE CULTURE.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM AND WHERE ARE THEIR FATHERS?
YOU DON'T HEAR THAT.
"A REPORT RELEASED LAST WEEK BY THE CENTER FOR POLICING
EQUITY, WHICH REVIEWED ARREST AND USE OF FORCE STATUS FROM
12 POLICE DEPARTMENTS, CONCLUDED DESK INCLUDED THE BLACK
RESIDENTS WERE MORE OFTEN TARGETED FOR USE OF FORCE
THAT WHITE RESIDENTS, EVEN WHEN ADJUSTING FOR WHETHER THE
PERSON WAS A VIOLENT CRIMINAL."
THEY ARE JUST TO SEE, THIS GUY IS SAYING BLACKS ARE VIOLENT
CRIMINALS, WHILE THEY ADJUSTED FOR THAT.
AND IT TURNS OUT, EVEN IN CASES WHERE WHITES AND BLACKS ARE
EQUIVALENTLY CRIMINAL OR VIOLENT, OR EQUIVALENT LAY
NONCOMMITTAL AND NONVIOLENT, GUESS WHO GETS ATTACKED MORE?
BUT PEOPLE.
THIS IS BASED ON DATA FROM 12 POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
THIS IS OUR OPINION, THIS IS FACT FROM 12 PLEASE DEPARTMENTS.
"IN A REPORT COVERING 2015 DATA-" THIS IS ANOTHER GROUP,
AND DIFFERENT GROUPS REPORTING ñ "CAMPAIGN ZERO COMPARED VIOLENT
CRIME RATE OF 50 MAJOR CITIES TO THE RATE AT WHICH POLICE
OFFICERS KILL PEOPLE, INCLUDING TO WHICH THERE IS NO
CORRELATION."
PEOPLE WILL SAY, CHICAGO, BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, THE COPS
ABOUT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
SO WE BLACK CRIMINALS IN NEW YORK, THAT'S WHY THE COPS
ARE IN DANGER AND HAVE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
BUT IT TURNS OUT THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS KILLING PEOPLE IS NOT
CORRELATED TO HOW VIOLENT THAT CITY IS AND HOW MUCH
VIOLENT CRIME THERE IS.
I KNOW THAT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE, I GET IT.
YOU THINK, IT'S A VIOLENT CITY, HENCE THE COPS SHOOT MORE
PEOPLE.
IT TURNS OUT THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
IT IS NOT CORRELATED TO THAT.
SO, SOME CITIES TRAIN A CERTAIN WAY AND OTHER CITIES TRAIN
IN ANOTHER WAY.
IT TURNS OUT THAT IF YOU DO THE WRONG TRAINING THAT IS OVERLY
AGGRESSIVE, YOU WILL GET MORE PEOPLE BEING SHOT, BOTH WHITE
AND BLACK, BUT BLACKS DISPROPORTIONATELY, YOU WILL GET
A LOT MORE CRIME BASED ON THE POLICE TRAINING.
IF YOU LOOK INTO THE DATA YOU ACTUALLY FIND OUT THE TRUTH.
ALL RIGHT, ANOTHER INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS FROM THE POSTS DATA,
CONDUCTED BY A TEAM OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESEARCHERS CONCLUDED
THAT, "WHEN FACTORING IN THREAT LEVEL, BLACK AMERICANS WHO ARE
FATALLY SHOT BY POLICE ARE, IN FACT, LESS LIKELY TO BE POSTING
AN IMMIGRANT ñ AN IMMINENT LETHAL THREAT TO THE OFFICERS AT
THE MOMENT THEY ARE KILLED THAN WHITE AMERICANS FATALLY SHOT BY
THE POLICE."
THEY HAD A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT SHOWED WHETHER OR NOT
THE COP WAS IN IMMINENT DANGER.
THEY ANALYZE THAT, THEY DON'T LOOK AT THE RACE YET, THEY
JUST ANALYZE THE DATA, HOW MUCH WAS A COP IN DANGER?
DENNY LOOK AT THE RACE AND IT SAYS, IF IT'S LOGICAL AND IT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE, YOU SHOULD SEE THAT THE BLACKS THAT
WERE SOUGHT DISPROPORTIONATELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF A
THREAT.
BUT WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE DATA AND LINED IT UP, THAT
WASN'T THE CASE.
IN FACT, IT WAS THE OPPOSITE.
THE WHITES THAT THE POLICE WERE ENCOUNTERING WERE PUTTING
THEM IN GREATER DANGER, BUT BLACKS WERE KILLED AT A
DISPROPORTIONATE RATE ANYWAY.
WHEN THEY REMOVED ALL THE FACTORS, IS IT A VIOLENT CITY?
IS THERE MORE CRIME IN THAT CITY?
WAS THE COP IN IMMINENT DANGER?
YOU KNOW THE ONE FACTOR THAT LED MOST CONCLUSIVELY TO
WHETHER SUMMARY WAS WHAT TO GET SHOT BY A POLICE OFFICER?
THAT FACTOR WAS WHETHER THEY WERE BLACK OR NOT.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT ALL THE COPS ARE RACIST.
IT'S TO SAY WE HAVE AN UNCONSCIOUS BIAS IN SOCIETY.
YES SOME ARE EXPLICITLY RACIST, SOME ARE IMPLICITLY RACIST,
BUT MOST OF THEM DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE IT IN THE BACK OF
THEIR HEADS.
AND IT'S DONE BY BLACK COPS, AND LATINO COPS AND ASIAN COPS.
WE HAVE AN UNCONSCIOUS BIAS THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND
OVER AGAIN.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE BLACKS ARE PRONE TO CRIMINALITY.
NO, YOU ARE TARGETING BLACKS MORE AND IT'S PROVEN OUT BY
THE DATA.
BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE DATA OR THE TRUTH.
INSTEAD YOU GO ON NATIONAL TV AND IMPLY, THEY ARE MORE
VIOLENT.
YOU KNOW HOW BLACKS ARE, THAT'S WHY THEY HAD IT COMING.
BUT THEN YOU REALIZE THAT IS NOT REALLY THE CASE.