In Florida,
if you don't agree with the Israel far right-wing government of Israel,
they will actually take contracts away from you, they will hurt your livelihood.
That is the government regulating speech, I assume you've spoken out
against that and you've been vituperative about it, right?
>> To the extent that a person advocates BDS, which is the economic
destruction of Israel and should be allowed to advocate it.
I think they should be allowed to advocate it, that's right.
>> [CROSSTALK] >> That is a violation of free speech and
totally wrong.
>> Netanyahu is no longer in government, why are you calling it far right?
>> Yeah, you think that Naftali Bennett got any better or the current person
that's insured, there all right wingers, none of them want Palestinians to be free.
They think Palestinians aren't really fully human and
can't be trusted to run their own government, they deny them a state, but
let's get back to America January six.
>> No, no, no, you can't throw out bombshells and then move on.
You think that the Israeli government or the average Israeli who voted for
this government thinks that the Palestinians are not fully human?
>> Absolutely, then why don't you let them go?
Why can't they have their own state?
>> Because it'll be run by Hamas, are you foolish?
>> Okay, so
why the right-wing violent government of Israel kills Palestinians all the time?
So you're saying wait, no, no, but you're saying,
the Palestinians cannot govern themselves, isn't that what you're saying as a fact?
>> You believe that there is moral equivalence between Israel and Hamas,
that's all I needed to say.
>> You're literally saying they're not equal, you're saying the Palestinians and
the Israelis are not equal, we have to violently oppress them for
the rest of their lives.
How long is the occupation gonna go?
How long are you gonna keep millions of Palestinians as prisoners cuz you think
they're less than human?
>> Okay, Israel doesn't wanna commit suicide because you sitting in America
have it good, okay?
>> Okay, so you're saying never, right?
You're gonna imprison Palestinians for the rest of time, is that correct?
>> When the Palestinians disavowed terror and stop trying to destroy Israel and
don't announce that they wanna destroy Israel, there will be peace.
>> Dennis, they have done that in the past, you said not good enough.
But the current state of affairs is the absurdity of the Israelis saying,
we will not allow you to have a state, because you theoretically say that we
cannot have a state when we already have one.
But no, you're literally preventing them from being having a state.
So since you are preventing them, doesn't that make you a monster who doesn't
believe in freedom and that all of your empty talk about how much you love freedom
is total garbage because you don't think it applies to Palestinians?
>> You have a weird way of thinking.
>> Go prove, go ahead,
why did Palestinians said within every other human being?
>> If you allow me to speak, I'll tell you why it's weird.
You believe there is a moral equivalence between Israel and Hamas,
that is morally sick.
>> You are sick for not allowing Palestinians millions of them to be free.
You don't believe in freedom, Dennis,
you believe in oppression as long as it's on your side, why can't they be free?
Why can't Palestinians be free?
Cuz they will choose a government you don't agree with,
that is the definition of oppression.
>> Okay, there you go.
Okay, the people heard my position, they heard your position.
>> Your position is, just to be clear, the Palestinians cannot be free,
they're not equipped to handle freedom, is that your position?
>> At this point, they would elect Hamas, what Israel did what you want and
left the left Gaza, it ended up being run by the terror organization called Hamas.
>> So they would elect someone you don't agree with and hence they are not allowed
to have freedom, what a big advocate of freedom of speech you are, Dennis?
Wow, a shining advocate from freedom who says if you don't elect who I want,
you will never be free, and you will be under our thumb and
under occupation, you will never have your own country.
That's literally what you're saying, Dennis?
>> No, it's not at all what I'm saying.
>> You're saying you like people I don't want Hamas in this case,
uou're never allowed to be free.
So who do you want them to elect Dennis Prager is the head of the Palestinian
government, is that what you want, then you allow them freedom,
would you even do that?
You would never allow them.
Why can't Palestinians be treated in the same exact way as every other human being?
>> Let me know when I can speak, have we reached the point that I can speak?
I will say the same thing again,
Israel does not wanna commit suicide by having Hamas, and having Iran,
and having Hezbollah type people run the West Bank like they run Gaza, that is it.
I have always been for two states, most Israelis were for
two states, there is almost no one left in Israel who agrees
with you including the Israeli left, you live in a minute.
>> Dennis, why are the type of people who can't govern themselves,
what does that mean?
What do you mean that they're the type of people who can't govern themselves?
>> They would elect vicious terrorists to kill Israelis,
that's whom they would elect and Israel not for us.
>> Why would they be different than all other human beings?
>> They are not different from all other human beings, Iran has that.
>> You said, that they cannot govern themselves and
they will elect vicious terrorists.
>> Unfortunately, because the worst of them are dominant just like them.
>> Just like thousands and all thousands that he murdered, okay?
>> Okay, what he murdered?
Yeah, you're a war, and you have a kill ratio of a thousand sometimes
101 sometimes even more that kills thousands of Palestinians and
go, golly gee, did I kill all of them?
It was an accident when the terrorists are Arabs who can't govern themselves,
who are vicious terrorists they do that is terrorism.
When the state of Israel does it, it is not terrorism, and
we killed 100 times more, but it is not terrorism.
We bomb in the middle of a crowded city and murder their civilians, but that is
not terrorism, because the state does it and people Dennis Prager likes does it.
But the Arabs and the Palestinians are vicious terrorists by nature and
can never govern themselves.
Boy, advocate for freedom, Dennis, you're doing great.
>> Somebody should add up the amount of time I got to speak and
you've got to speak on this segment here.
Your notion that kill ratio determines morality is really pathetic,
we killed far more Germans than Germans killed brits or Americans,
does that make America wrong in World War Two?
If kill ratio is your criterion, I'm curious was America wrong?
>> No, Dennis, it depends on disproportionate power.
You know who had disproportionate power the Germans over the Jews,
they had disproportionate power and the state didn't.
The state of Germany did that to the Jewish population to the polish
population to all of those different people.
But you would say no, when the state does it, it's no big deal, state does it,
it's no big deal, that's not terrorism only.
What could Jews have fought back against Hitler and done it with great violence and
tried to bomb him and kill him?
Could they have done that, would that have been morally conscious thing to do?
>> Okay, it has nothing to do with anything,
we've discussed what I don't understand your question.
If the Jews could have bombed Hitler, should they have?
>> Yes.
>> Is that your question?
>> Yes.
>> Yes, they should have.
>> So if you are being oppressed,
you get to bomb the people oppressing?
>> Are you comparing Israel to Hitler?
I won't even argue with you.
>> No, I'm asking you a simple question, I'm not drawing a comparison,
I'm just asking a simple question.
If you are being oppressed as the Jews were in Germany,
are you allowed to bomb and kill your oppressors?
>> I won't argue with you, I wanted yes or no, are you comparing Israel to Hitler?
>> No, I'm asking the state power count, no,
I'm asking the state power count as terrorism.
I think it does count,
I think when the Germans killed all those people that was terrorism.
I think when America, and Israel, and Russia invade other countries and
kill civilians, that's also terrorism, doesn't that make logical sense?
>> No, not at all, Israel defends itself, end of issue.
>> That's literally what the Germans said, we must defend the homeland.
>> Okay, so you are comparing the Germans and Israel?
>> Okay, I'm comparing state power to state power,
you're saying no individuals are terrorists.
Arabs are terrorists, but the Israelis are never terrorists,
and the state is never terrorists.
>> This is mind boggling, it's worth it, I'll play it on my show,
you'll get a lot of publicity.
>> All right, fantastic.
Okay, so Dennis Prager, who does not believe in freedom just for Palestinians,
everybody else enjoy.
Maybe you live under a Christian nation, and maybe that means governing you, but
maybe it doesn't, maybe it's optional.
Okay, we'll see except they say govern, except, you know that every Republican
says, I don't believe in the separation of church and state.
I've seen it 1000 times, you're being totally disingenuous if you don't
say that, you know that that's what they say, and
that would be a religious oppression of the rest of us.
We're not interested in the religious oppression, we're not interest and
oppressing women and say, hey, you have to serve us in the home.
We're not interested in any of that oppression, ironically,
Dennis, what we want on the left is freedom, and for
all of you right-wingers to get out of our damn lies.
>> All right, so I understand how you operate, you have these long monologues,
you go from subject to subject and we can't analyze any one of them.
I asked you when Christians were in power in this country,
did they ever force Christianity upon anyone?
So I don't know what you're talking about when you say they don't believe in
separation of church.
>> But that's why I love America.
>> You have a United States congresswoman, Lauren Boebert, giving incessant speeches
about how the constitution doesn't say there's a separation of church and state.
Completely rewriting the constitution and
spreading this ideology that this should be a Christian nation, that is wrong.
If you genuinely believe in freedom as I do, as Cenk does, as most normal people
who love America do, you should not force your religious doctrine on others.
>> Okay, if you're on the left as opposed to liberal, you don't believe in a free
nation I don't, I reject that, because you suppress dissent.
>> No, your are on our show, [LAUGH] We're not suppressing dissent at all.
>> Well, I don't get a chance to speak much, but you're right, and I honor that,
and you are exceptional.
>> All right.
>> In this regard, you're an exception, but it has nothing to
do with the generalization that the left suppresses dissent.
That's true with every university, and it's true that every corporation
conservatives fear losing their jobs, liberals do not.
>> Okay, all of that is again, we disagree, but now,
we're five minutes over and you've been very patient.
So thank you for joining us, thank you for staying on, we do appreciate it.
And of course, play all the clips you like on your show, it'll be great to watch.
Dennis Prager, thank you for coming on The Young Turks.
>> Thank you.