i wanna bring you off are begets we promised earlier today
holly similar from newsweek wrote
one of my favorite articles in the history of news
socket which talk about it lisa how you like that introduction that
atwood korataev meirink irish accompaniment bacon my paragraph beth
this is a pic
it is a cover story is like a marriage in the the local turkish but i got one
of the story his it's about gay marriage were what it sounds like a marriage
i don't love it because they have what it says that religion
i love it because it is actually for the first time a long time
not afraid
to say something that is clearly true
even though
it's gonna create controversy
because i think that's what
you're supposed to do journalism useful say things
that are clearly true
so so that's my practice that's now let me ask some questions the problem and ok
okay you can be complimentary about the character cooper
certainly our you know and saw how could be on the daily show the other day but i
did not see him i've seen them
and nine times where conservatives in america say
uh... traditional marriage is between one man and one woman in that is how it
is in the bible hence that is how it must be
uh... but
is that really true
well argument and oriented uh...
that actually traditional marriage
isn't and the five all
afa example are hardly ever in the old testament hereof
patriarch making it more progress
abraham
was in love with with the white they were married for ever get what he was
infertile hypocrite hurts our front
decoupled spirit that intricately optical trio
countrywide
through the course of carriage originally a and department
you know it
pleaded guilty that solomon
are making repeated it a lot of them are potent though though
not traditional marriage that aired a marriage uh...
for its at that time of the world
um... mosquito repellent
uh... catered freakin
even stock family
uh... a family of cricket believers
who
prove their belief in god
supersede o family crying
he dressed in white guy now
let's get together can cover army other work
ppakdeepan alcon tell you that i need to go back my father first and he did not
get together at that
a comment for me
family to keep it is less important
but part of an important question
without the thought that
and he said well there
uh... if four people you can't complain they're a lot of though
if u bottom but better docket better development nicolette
nowhere in his group of people to you
he obviated ivy inherit you can't beat the traditional family the way
the religious right what have you
believable traditional so that in the sense of personal before you get to that
uh... my favorite exception in the bible now is a server exception
no
so thought ice i'd just got married i don't know if i might want to do it
ectopic but i'm not going to canada and the other hand it is going to be all i
want is a traditional marriage when well you know we had this evidence section
protected so i validation zyada develops
now but you're right in the old testament at people aboard a bus in the
new testament jesus says are you reading about your family
uh... while your new family any says it over and over and over again
yes absolutely
soul
this anybody ever get married in the bible
well yeah i mean people can get married
and i think a and and limited liability company on gay people don't get married
and tobacco
rebuttal about playing
the word gay marriage dot let me read the bible at all
uh... passion clear desert employees in the bible why did their merit couples
and obviously in the old testament
and married couples and then there's the servants in the new sisters and all that
stuff
visit at the same about here is how you should get married
and it's obviously one and one woman center or in any way
here's how you should get there
they had no expert but definition and i think the call
um... hip-hop apollo
and i think he does
we've workday
strong cabot reporting
voter condemnation of divorce
so much a strong tower
depalma competition
com sexuality which is implicated in the bible
it was so much more frequently with so much more poor people
and yet in america
american skip report
so
coming now
label overlook it
would not be able to over what could be
reno
k heard that overseas
the spoke stability of prophetic milk
conductor approach allows so we have yet to look at this right that's a in the
summer eleven
uh... and then paul
all speaks out against homosexuality is this baldwin twice or was a for-profit
it right ample time needed uh...
dot their prevalent that
company beaten
contextual
adulterers
at the that
people who
q back down
think at the time is more important
believed to be talking about
uh... that judgment cocked coming gal on
he underwent people but he indian crew come backdrop
preventive without empathy for the story
and that that inadvertent it's relevant keep talking really about if corinne
wickedness uh... atlanta disintegrating behavior
dot every depravity
and you talking to people politically about too
uh... throughout the temperature uh... your own curricula and a powerful
configured your elliott that that in palm desert i think it would have no
exactly what you're talking about
bed inouye it none of these reference we're talking about
email committee to related to provide packing
uh... yet uses agreements and others in the us and also you liked it
without lisa militia wrote the cover story for newsweek this week
so i can imagine the bible with his bible actually says about marriage
there is no characters because
uh... as you explain your article taking the bible literally is insanity
uh... you know i don't
don't want what was your mouth you say that if they're not saying it
uh... but you explain it with examples and he's able to make a salute two parts
that the fact that the homosexuals mission there
but also leviticus if you wear clothing of two different types
uh... you'll that's also an abomination just like homosexuality
which one hundred percent of us violate
and if you eat their shrimp or lobster any shellfish let's all sort of our
nation how come there's no red lobster amendments and so you know prop my
eighty s red lobster
uh... so
and and then
as you point out multi-ethnic if you commit adultery you are to be executed
executed
anyone and everyone and uh... manic-depressive open sexuality and
but they can't get that
you should be done you should be down
top repeating
gayle potter hank
eight and we don't do that here that are currently uploading people
affiliates adulterous and we don't tell you about her electron unpaid
and
doctor gary
uh... yes and they would sell drugs the
we wouldn't have missed resident but that's enough that thank god we don't
kill any of these people right
and we don't follow any of those tents and by the way that this every week
would kill is so then the speaker surpass
we would start in the best right so
not that obviously leads the next question which is
they waited
if we're not actually following this bible
why are they choosing
the verses that are
all based on haiti
during those four as a weapon things
that we should listen to him about
and i don't know that they have an answer for that
why don't they talk about the poor why don't they talk about you know as data
prop eight let's make sure the poor or everybody
every poor family in a and california gets fed
why are they obsess about collecting a lot of spreading love
to everybody across the world and
the quality of senator why do you focus on the one
issue
where they get to isolate a certain group and say we should all right
i do think that one of the
great things about the pilot of the beautiful things about the fire but
wanted to be
if you want to take hold meetings about the bible
emphatic troopers
if you take a look at the time that he picked it up with her care
disapproval arrived at her more than two thousand years i i think that that
because true
attacks two are changing
the battle of the condone bravery
we are in agreement
on the right on the laptop unwavering gamepro
and barbaric and we don't
uh... country
though we have to be able to use the bible to look at it entered and to move
on
or work through history
to try to make up more traffic flow
he in the past week i think they will be available to comment on that
it took
it did not look like that that not looking forward it not
it's not looking to port job
well this is this is where you and i just googled it lisa miller is of course
losing insurance cover story this week about matters in the bible
i don't believe that it has anything to do with the bible
uh... i think the bible is survived all these years largely because of his
abatements
uh... and it says uh... kill everybody on the one hand in this is love
everybody in the other hand
and many people want to fill quote that part of the people will of course the
other part
and hence it's got a little miss watch for everybody
uh... and that we don't actually fall the bible at all
all use it is for our our own prejudices the weather voice for good or for bad
and have my prejudices for peace and i find peace in it
my prejudices for war are fine ward
when i led to the bible for example jesus jesus jesus
the car christian right
doesn't listen to jesus
jesus is the letter families and these are some of our families i think there
was a lovely things i don't think we should give up our families
but the christian right when they go about families in complete contradiction
over jesus christ set
i_b_m_ you know i i don't agree with you i think i mean i can come pick five okay
true that
that are
okay pick less protection without
club
and a lot of
and you know what is the most beautiful bike
my reporting for the story was
talking about you know what america gave him the i've had a christian
kidnaper could have been a black rubber
it something that you can get only
getting together and contacting
and they don't want you to please
eight that day
i believe dot blots me
this isn't there a powerful today
and the question that is last week gay people
yes locate and at the end here again lisa you know that you're being your
these journalists you shall play this is stephen is intense
and i don't blame you for that i i i appreciated in fact
uh... in this case but uh... the reality is that the right wing has always use
the bible for haiti
and though you say in the article about slavery and they made above arguments in
favor and against slavery using the bible the people who made argues in
favor of slavery
were the right wing at that time the people who made arguments to be a civil
rights using above or whatever else or the right wing at that time the people
who made arguments
yes women having the cynicism and
we're right wing at that time the people who make arguments against gay marriage
right now
are the right wing at this time in a specifically the question right at this
time
somehow magically
they always seem to find the paypal parts of the bot
project that i needed all good example if i get there has also been brought
great
very powerful religious rhetoric on the left andy abolition
wired the movement
was a blueprint that started and churches attitude that eric was
conducting competitor the people who were in the temple built into the
courtroom valid at time of the country one we don't want people to take a look
at what people that they're quite a bit more people cause a
and it can't be helped by the political debate
has been taken um... i think that one of the reasons that we picked a story with
because pathetically religious rhetoric on the left
have not really big certificate argument for gay marriage did not get out there
the way ambled appalachia
i can avoid went there to wait until they could look at what the
wanted church is the way
you know
the the anti-dole
the difficult work
foreign trade marriage and make those arguments
they were they were pretty argument
good you know i don't have power plug in the country and i think it would be to
try to make a
i agree with you guys and pavilion there on the people who
use the bible for good and there are
millions of them millions of them across the world
artur every people and i appreciate all their efforts are appreciated they use
the bible as a source
but when you look at the bible as you see what from your own article
it's a much much
it does
it's whatever you want and you you just pick and choose
so we have to be especially skeptical
any biblical argument even if it's a they will argue that we agree with
because
an equal and opposite argument can be made
and that leads me finally to suggest you're next topic lisa
which is where that hellos abortion in the bible
and hand out my i doubt it
haven't i haven't looked at her apartment that i had gotten out
incidences think about it
who would have had a dream that you gave me that my technical yet but i i'm just
saying i'm just writing out anyway be ready for a lot of preferences deputy
release of those from newsweek great article this week we haven't linked up
to on the enters dot com of course is a newsweek dot com as well
lisa thanks so much for joining thrilling here