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- It's lunchtime, and this is Brad Anderson's lunch break.
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Two of my favorite things about Microsoft,
are the smart people that constantly visit campus,
and the great fleet of shuttles.
Wherever I can I try to take advantage
of both of these things, and grab lunch with some of
the tech industry's best and brightest.
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Today, I'll finish up my conversation
with Jeff Teper, the creator of SharePoint.
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I was thinking about a lot of
the things that you and I have done together.
About five years ago I remember sending you a mail.
I was like, "Jeff, hey this whole thing
with non-Windows devices,
we gotta' do some work together here.
You know, I've got this management stuff I'm working on.
There's things you're working on.
Let's get together and let's, - Yeah.
- Let's get a plan for how productivity
and management come together.
You remember when you forwarded that message to Rajesh,
what Rajesh said? - Yeah.
- I can still remember your exact comment was,
"Brad's a Windows guy."
You remember this? - I do, I do.
- Yes, I'm sorry I was a little snippy that meeting,
but I was, you know, "Why am I talking to Brad?"
- He said, "No, Brad's a Windows guy."
- Yeah.
- And I said, "No, Brad's a business guy.
"Brad wants to build the product
"that customers want."
You had a set of competitors or alternatives
that had a pretty crappy set of
productivity, apps. - apps.
- And we had competitors that didn't really
have the manageability,
and so besides being the thing our customers wanted,
it was sort of a win-win.
- [Brad] Okay so we're gonna' play a game
called This or That. - Sure.
- So I'm gonna' give you a couple of descriptions,
and I'm gonna' give you a phrase or a word
and you're gonna' tell me, is it this,
is it that, or is it both.
- [Jeff] Okay.
- Okay, the two terms we're gonna' work with are
Malware, or am I talking about Minecraft.
So Malware or Minecraft. - Malware or Minecraft, okay.
- Way too many people in your workforce
have it running in the background.
- Uh, Minecraft.
- Your kids probably downloaded it on your phone
when you weren't looking.
- Malware.
I answered both those wrong.
They both could be right, but.
- Millions of people all over the world
are working on it right now.
- Uh, Malware.
- At least it gets kids interested in technology.
- Minecraft.
- [Brad] (laughs) Okay, it's both,
could be. - That could be bumped.
- There's a huge secondary economy
for people who are good at building it.
- Oh, well that's, gosh.
I have to pick one?
- I heard that your first job in the software industry
was writing what, a vehicle simulator when you were 14?
- Oh, yeah yeah yeah, wow!
Yeah, wow, you really did dig deep.
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So my Dad was a aerospace engineer,
and he had these algorithms for vehicle simulation
that he'd done in Fortran, in a PDP-11.
And he did some work on the side
from the company he worked with,
and I think he probably charged himself
out a hundred dollars an hour,
and he paid me like $7 an hour
to port the Fortran from the PDP-11
to the TRS-80 Model III. - Oh my word!
- And Fortran, whatever it was,
Fortran IV or Fortran 77. - Yep.
- And so I'd never, I had no idea what these algorithms did.
I didn't know what the outputs
they were supposed to do.
But there were some subtle differences,
as there always are in compilers,
with your data types and so forth,
where I had to run it on the PDP-11,
I had to run it on the TRS-80 Model III,
and make sure that I guess,
the car didn't crash. - And this is at 14?
- Yeah, yeah. - Wow.
- There's a ton of upper level math
involved with all that movement.
- Yes, matrix algebra. - You don't--
- I didn't really understand it.
- Just little stuff like that.
- I got it correct, my Dad fixed a couple of bugs,
but he did pay me, so I assume that must mean
that I did do it. - Well, 7 bucks an hour.
- When you and I were 14,
you know what, - Yeah.
- I was delivering newspapers - Yes.
- When I was 14, making a buck an hour.
- Yeah.
- Fun stat for you, we've had a quarter billion downloads
of OneDrive on iOS and Android.
And the-- - Quarter billion.
- The Google Play store, which is of course
the biggest store, 'cuz they have the most
mobile devices. - devices.
- [Jeff] But 800,000 people rated us 4.4 rating,
higher than the home team - Awesome.
- of Google Drive on that device,
which we're really proud of.
It's been really great to see,
and I think the things that people like
about OneDrive are the rich collaboration
capabilities with Office. - Oh yeah, yeah.
- We're starting to do unique things with intelligence.
- You know, what you and I have talked about is,
how do we build this in a way that is loved by users
and trusted by IT, - Yeah, yeah yeah.
- and nail them both, - That's a tricky thing.
- Is actually really hard.
- Yeah, and our teams, and this is good,
our teams fight sometimes so our users
and IT departments don't have to.
Because we will push each other,
- Correct.
- And we'll say, "Brad, this dialogue that came up,
"We gotta' do something about it."
- I know exactly what you're talking about.
- And you say, "Yeah, but if we just blow past it,
"here's the risk that you're,"
And that challenge that we do on each other
leads to, I think, some of our best work
where we balance usability and security.
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- [Brad] Well Jeff, let's make sure we
make this a regular occasion,
so you know-- - Yeah, glad to do it.
- I know you've gotta' pick other people up
in the shuttle a lot, you know, don't quit your day job.
- Alright man, - Sounds great,
- Good to see you. - Bye!
- Alright, take care now. - See you buddy.
- Next time, on Brad Anderson's Lunch Break.
- Four of five years ago, I was at a function.
I was introduced to an elected member
of Parliament in New Zealand.
And someone introduced me as a Global Cloud Expert.
And this dude said, without a word of lie,
"Oh, you study the weather do you?"
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