COME BACK TO THE BENCH IN OFKT.
>> BETTER BLIEF IT.
DAVID SPUNT, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> Mike: BRING IN CHAD WOLF,
WELCOME.
FORMER ACTING D.H.S. SECRETARY
UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WHAT’S THE IMPACT OF THE SUPREME
COURT RULING TO THE MEN AND
WOMEN ON THE FRONT LINES AT THE
SOUTHERN BORDERS.
>> DISAPPOINTING RULING, THE
PROGRAM WORKED.
NOT ONLY THE BORDER AGENTS AND
OTHERS SUPPORT THE PROGRAM, MOST
AMERICANS DO AS WELL.
WE SAW RESULTS.
HELPS NOT ONLY SECURE THE BOARD
BUT HELPS CONTROL THE ASYLUM
PROCESS AND GETS THOSE THAT NEED
ASYLUM PROTECTIONS QUICKER
ACCESS TO THE PROTECTIONS.
INSTEAD WHAT YOU HAVE IS A CATCH
AND RELEASE SYSTEM TO ALLOW THE
INDIVIDUALS INTO THE COUNTRY FOR
YEARS AT A TIME.
CARTEL, SMUGGLERS AND THE
TRAFFICKERS WILL USE THE COURT
DECISION, THE DECISION THAT WAS
PUSHED BY THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION TO AGAIN ATTRACT
AND LURE MORE INDIVIDUALS TO
COME TO THE UNITED STATES AND
WHAT THEY’LL SELL THEM ON, TO
SAY THERE IS NOW 0 CHANCE YOU
ARE GOING TO BE PUT INTO M.P.P.
OR THE REMAIN IN MEXICO PROGRAM.
ALMOST 100% CHANCE YOU ARE GOING
TO GET RELEASED INTO THE UNITED
STATES.
>> Mike: NEW REACTION FROM THE
TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT, THE
SUPREME COURT DECISION OF THE
TERMINATION OF REMAIN IN MEXICO
WILL ONLY EMBOLDEN THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION OPEN BORDER
POLICIES, AND FULLY ENFORCING
REMAIN IN MEXICO WOULD DETER
THOUSANDS, AND THE PRESIDENT
BIDEN SHOULD SECURE THE BORDER,
ONLY HUMANE THING TO DO.
OBVIOUSLY A HEARTBREAKING THING
IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WITH
MIGRANTS AND DIFFICULT YEAR AND
A HALF.
>> ABSOLUTELY, AND IT’S
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE COURT
DECISION DOES NOT TELL D.H.S.
THEY MUST REMOVE OR ELIMINATE
THE PROGRAM.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS THE
CHOICE TO IMPROVE IT OR MAKE IT
BETTER, BUT A NUMBER OF
DECISIONS, MOST AMERICANS ARE
THROWING THEIR HANDS UP AND
SAYING WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS,
ALLOWING THE SITUATION AT THE
BORDER TO REMAIN OUT OF CONTROL
AND EVERY MONTH WE SEE ILLEGAL
APPREHENSION NUMBERS GET WORSE
AND WORSE AND WORSE.
SO THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU DON’T
WANT M.P.P., WHAT ELSE DO YOU
WANT IN ITS PLACE?
WHAT OTHER PROGRAM OR PROCEDURES
ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN PLACE TO
CONTROL THE SITUATION ON THE
BORDER?
I’VE SAID THIS OF ABOUT.
THE CARTELS WANT ONE THING, AND
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
GIVING THEM THE ONE THING,
PREDICTABILITY FROM DAY ONE, NO
NEW MEASURES IN PLACE TO DETER
ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR.
INSTEAD THEY SAY THIS IS HOW IT
IS AND MOST AMERICANS HAVE TO
ACCEPT THAT THIS, AND THAT’S THE
WRONG STRATEGIES.
YOU ARE NOT PUTTING AMERICA
FIRST, BUT LAST WHEN YOU DO
THAT.
>> Mike: DO YOU THINK THE
SUPREME COURT IS SAYING LIKE SIT
DOWN AND COME UP WITH A PLAN TO
THE WHITE HOUSE AND CONGRESS?
>> I THINK SO.
THEY DID NOT RULE ON THE MERITS
OF M.P.P.
AS YOU READ THE OPINION AND THE
MAJORITY SAYS D.H.S. HAS LEGAL
AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.
CONGRESS GAVE THEM THE AUTHORITY
TO DO THIS. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY
COULD RESCIND THE PROGRAM.
BUT CONGRESS NEEDING TO MAKE
SOME CHANGES BUT THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH HAS A LOT OF AUTHORITY.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE LEADERSHIP
AND WILL TO CONTROL THE BORDER
AND DETER THE ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR,
WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT
LEADERSHIP, ANY OF THAT VISION
LAID OUT OVER THE PAST 15 OR 16
MONTHS.
INSTEAD, IT’S JUST OPEN BORDERS
AND YOU SEE THE ASTRONOMICALLY
HIGH APPREHENSION NUMBERS.
IN 2000, AND BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION WE HAVE FIVE
MONTHS.
>> WHAT’S THE MORALE OF MEN AND
WOMEN ON THE FRONT LINES?
>> IT’S TERRIBLE.
YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING THE
LEADERSHIP TO REINSTATE THE
REMAIN IN MEXICO, BUT THE
LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN AGAINST THE
PROGRAM.
SO SLOWLY AND SURELY THEY HAVE
REMOVED EVERY TOOL IN THE TOOL
BELT TO ADDRESS THE BORDER
CRISIS.
THE LAST THING IS TITLE 42 AND
THEY HEARD THE POLITICAL
LEADERSHIP WANTS TO REMOVE 42,
THAT’S IN THE COURTS AS WELL.
YOU DON’T HAVE A LOT OF
CONFIDENCE AND NO LIGHT AT THE
END OF THE TUNNEL, AND THAT’S
HARD FOR THE FOLKS WHO LIVE AND