Welcome back everyone
Marvel just revealed a bunch more deleted scenes from Spider-Man
No Way Home, including Tom Holland, in several versions of the symbiote suit.
There are a ton of Easter Eggs.
Even Spider-Man PS4 was supposed to be in that movie at some point in a live action
in a more legit comic book accurate version of the iron Spider suit.
So we'll break it all down.
If you're brand new to the channel, be sure to subscribe to get all the videos.
Ahsoka episodes are starting really soon.
I'll be doing videos for that.
The Loki. Season two episodes are coming after that.
I just did a new trailer video for it, so I had a link for it at the end of this,
down in the description below.
So there's a lot of big stuff coming up,
Least of all Spider-Man four with Tom Holland.
But recently you probably saw on your feeds
all these new deleted scenes Marvel was releasing for Spider-Man.
No Way Home, all way crazier than the actual deleted scenes
that they released with the Blu ray.
All the coolest months They never wind up releasing.
For some reason, just starting with the biggest one Spider-Man
in multiple versions of the full on symbiote suit from the comics.
All Spider-Man symbols are made in the style of the classic comic
book symbiote suit style.
Like his Spider-Man symbol, changes between his previous version
in the movie to be more comic book accurate.
When he first got the symbiote suit during the original Secret Wars Comics.
Well, I mean, you look at that at the obvious comic connotations
between Venom and Spider-Man, and it is it's inherent.
So. So the minute Sony made their Venom movie and it worked as well as it did,
and Tom Hardy became as iconic as he has become as Venom,
then the obvious questions and how do we how do we start to to to merge them?
the first version, the logo is gold colored, then there's a red one
in a traditional white one, which would have been the most comic
book accurate to the version he wore in the comics after Secret Wars.
The red one is also a super deep cut.
There's a cool story behind that Red Spider-Man's symbiote Suit logo.
that, before the original Marvel's Secret Wars event happened in the comics,
like when they were still planning it,
they ran a fan contest to redesign Spider-Man.
So a bunch of fans submitted their artwork.
So in 1982, Randy Schuler of fans submitted his Art of Spider-Man
wearing a black suit
with a red logo like they hadn't come up with the concept of the symbiote yet.
that didn't become an actual thing until Todd McFarlane did the Venom comic.
It was a bit of a retcon.
They turned it into the symbiote suit.
When he got the suit in secret wards,
they just called it the quote unquote alien costume.
Like the whole term. Symbiote didn't come till much, much later.
So when the fan was submitting his design for this with the red logo,
he just thought it would be cool if Spider-Man wore a black costume
Ultimately, Marvel decided
to take his design and change it a little bit to the White logo version.
But he gets credit basically for coming up with the idea of Spider-Man
wearing the black costume
Recently, Marvel actually brought that back into Canon with Peter,
David and Rick Leonard when they did sensational Spider-Man self-improvement
with some Easter eggs for him, actually getting the original suit in secret wars.
Like they brought a little bit of that story back during the original version
of events, Spider-Man's suit gets damaged during secret wars and he finds
this alien device technology which replaces it with this symbiote suit.
But at the time it was just an alien costume.
no. In the deleted scenes, the white logo is self-explanatory.
Like they wanted to do a symbiote suit with the Secret Wars Easter Egg,
but make it more accurate to those comics The gold logo was then trying to do that
symbiote suit, but say that it was a combination of them
getting the Venom
symbiote while he was wearing his newest advanced suit from the end of the movie,
which itself was a combination of the Steve
Ditko advanced suit in the iron spider suit with the gold highlights They didn't
say exactly when he was going to get this Venom symbiote suit in the movie.
But if you remember that originally Venom wasn't supposed to
just be relegated to a post-credits scene, during the theatrical cut.
They did the Venom
symbiote post-credits scene with him leaving behind a piece of the symbiote.
But originally they were going to have Venom show up earlier
in the movie and actually fight with Spider-Man at the Statue of Liberty.
Final battle against the other Sinister Six villains.
That's what Tom Hardy's dialog was meant to be, a reference to.
Originally
he was going to Portland, to New York City and meet Spider-Man that way.
it sounds like their alternate plan was for Venom to show up just in case
Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield didn't work out for some reason.
So there were multiple versions of the end of the movie
when they were supposed to all show up, and in one of them,
venom comes instead of them.
it sounds like at some point during that fight, Spider-Man
would have gotten the Venom symbiote and then it forms the suit around him.
And that's how they explained the logo this was a whole big thing.
When the first Venom solo movie came out with Tom Hardy, like, how are they going
to explain the logo if he hasn't met Tom Holland's Spider-Man yet?
But now he kind of has.
Like he's seen him on screen, so he knows what the logo looks like.
Kevin.
Foggy had been saying for a long time
that there was a chance that they would actually cross over,
but he didn't say which movie that would happen
or how they were going to make that go down.
it sounds like for a long time they were planning on that
being Spider-Man No Way Home until Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield worked out.
they didn't say what the new version of the Post-Credits scene would have been
had Venom shown up earlier and done the symbiote suit twist, I'm assuming
it would have been something similar where he still gets
Portal back to his universe at the end of the movie,
but leaves behind a piece of the symbiote so that they can continue on
with the much bigger
Spider-Man symbiote saga in the future like they're doing right now. But.
They would have changed some of his dialog
so that instead of just yelling about Thanos and the five year
time jump getting drunk, he would have also been
yelling about their fight with the Sinister Six villains.
seeing the movie, it seems pretty obvious why they cut this Venom
symbiote scene from it.
First they got Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield. No problem.
So the movie was already
too full of characters to have Venom show up during the final battle,
and they just decided to cut him out.
since he wasn't there, it wouldn't have made sense
for Tom Holland to get the symbiote before the end of the movie in Marvel play
just decided early on because of all that they save
the symbiote suit twist for Avengers six secret wars
so that they could do
a much more comic book accurate version of him getting the symbiote suit
The whole idea in Spider-Man's appearance is that
every time he shows up in a new movie, he gets a new suit
and they really want to reach for deep cuts for Avengers movies.
So why not have one of the biggest deep cuts of all time?
First, Secret Wars.
the second big deleted scene seems even crazier than the Symbiotes,
if you can believe it.
Spider-Man PS4 apparently showing up during that final battle, meaning
he would have been a live action version of the character canonized to the MCU.
There are a couple of things that might have been going on here.
He might have been a substitution for Tobey Maguire or Andrew Garfield
if they had dropped out of the movie at some point
or they didn't work out for some reason.
we know there were multiple versions of the final battle
with a bunch of different combinations of characters fighting in the scene
or this might have been Tom Holland's Spider-Man, just getting a new suit
before the final battle the way he did in the movie.
But this one just happens to look exactly like Spider-Man PS4 suit
Like the scene where his advanced suit combines with the iron spider nanites
to create his new suit Might have just turned into this PS4 looking suit.
I literally just did a trailer for Spider-Man
two with that version of the character, so I'll post the link in the description.
They're kind of in the middle of doing their own version of the symbiote saga,
but it's based on the plot from the first Spider-Man PS4 game.
So it's not like the comic book symbiote saga The hell is going on with me?
He's not himself. Go help him.
they pretty much already canonize Spider-Man
four in Miles Morales from that universe into across the Spider-Verse, though.
But they were the animated versions of the characters.
most of you remember, they did have a bunch of live action
crossover scenes with animation in Across the Spider-Verse with Tobey Maguire,
Andrew Garfield, Tom Holland in Venom.
So expect more live action versions of the characters
to appear in Spider-Man beyond the Spider-Verse.
the next big deleted scene was a much more comic book accurate iron spider suit.
And this would have been the suit created
from that combination of the advanced suit in the Infinity War Iron spider suit.
The final version they went with in the movie
was more of a blend of the red and black colors.
This one would have been a much bigger change, looks super cool.
Maybe at some point they'll do some kind of version of this.
Usually Marvel does that.
Like they'll have really cool deleted scenes, a really cool concept,
or they just won't work out for some reason or other pull back on it.
They'll bring it back around in some future movie
There are a bunch of other smaller deleted scenes and concepts that they revealed,
mostly more comic book accurate designs for everybody in the movie.
Like a more comic book accurate version of Doctor Octopus.
There was also an iron fanny pack.
Spider-Man used to hold his iron spider suit.
It was meant to be his version of Iron Man's briefcase Armor.
The Iron Man.
Mark buy from Iron Man two, but a fanny pack.
something about this just makes it feel like Ned
and MJ would have clowned on it pretty hard during the movie.
there was also an Iron Man style belt that he wore that did
basically the same thing, but just feels a little more sleek.
there were tons of other big deleted scenes and Easter eggs.
I just did a video for like Ned leads turning into a version of Hobgoblin
Green Goblin getting an Iron Man suit that he turns into an Iron Goblin suit,
I'll post links for all that stuff down in the description below.
Andrew Garfield
was also recently talking about the future of his Amazing Spider-Man two,
saying that they envisioned he would go on to continue
being Spider-Man in his universe, having all kinds of adventures, Could you,
would you do it again?
Do you would you put the suit on if given the opportunity?
you know, never say never.
I mean, it's such it's a character
that's always going to be so meaningful to me and so beautiful to me.
And again, it comes back to service.
You know, I think
if there's a way, because that's what that's what that character is all about.
He's all about serving the greater good and serving his fellow
fellow people, his fellow, you know, serving humanity and all life, you know.
So if there's a way for me to
continue to add to the legacy of that character in a way that feels
like it's of service
to an audience, of service, to the themes that,
you know, the themes that Stanley kind of, you know, injected that character with.
I'm open and of course, I'm very, very open.
The whole idea
with his Amazing Spider-Man is it had they made The Amazing Spider-Man
three, they would have started him on his own Venom symbiote saga
introducing a bunch of other characters that they're now doing in present day.
Like Morbius, for instance, is more Ben Time,
a full Sinister six trilogy of spin off movies,
which they're still trying to do right now.
Let me know in the comments, though, when do you want them to do Spider-Man's
symbiote suit
if they don't do a full symbiote saga starting in Tom Holland's Spider-Man four,
they might save that for further on to click here for my new Loki
Season two trailer video and click here for all those other big Spider-Man
deleted scenes. Thank you so much for watching.
Everyone stay safe and I'll see you guys in the next one!