[MUSIC PLAYING]
SPEAKER 1: Floating is about creating a unique experience
for the brain in which it's now confronted, for the first
time in its existence, a lack of sensory input.
SPEAKER 2: They say it's the most intimate experience
you'll ever have with yourself.
It's kind of like going on a date with yourself.
SPEAKER 3: There's no chance you have anywhere else where
you're in total silence, total darkness, and
you're literally floating.
SPEAKER 4: "Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast
by night." All day.
JOE ROGAN: Hamilton Morris comes here with a video camera
when the podcast in its most cluttered state possible.
This room is a wreck.
I look like I should be on "Hoarders" in
this fucking room.
SPEAKER 4: Serious.
JOE ROGAN: I gotta clean this bitch out.
This is ridiculous.
Too much traveling, man.
Too much traveling.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Yes.
JOE ROGAN: You know?
You know how it is, Hamilton Morris.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Hello.
JOE ROGAN: What's up, bunny?
HAMILTON MORRIS: Not much.
Good to be here.
JOE ROGAN: Thanks for--
thanks for coming on.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Thanks for having me.
JOE ROGAN: Hamilton is doing something on isolation tanks.
And we're going to check out the Float Lab tomorrow in
Venice, where Crash is the mad genius, putting together the
baddest float tanks in the world.
We're gonna go check out his stuff and his crazy cellular
influence device.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Yeah.
I'm curious.
JOE ROGAN: Yeah, his idea, this guy Crash's idea, is that
in the sensory deprivation environment, with the lack of
external stimuli, your brain will be more focused.
HAMILTON MORRIS: It sounds like "The Lawnmower Man."
JOE ROGAN: [INAUDIBLE] in the tank.
It does sound like "The Lawnmower Man." You're right.
It does.
Could you imagine if you took like, if you found out that
you could develop a course specifically for you inside
the isolation tank, like the optimum way to learn things
and memorize things and put them to use?
And you show that you could make people learn Spanish ten
times quicker or something fucking nutty like that.
That would be, like, the best way to learn ever.
We were talking about it earlier.
You've only had one sensory experience.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Yeah.
And it was quite a while ago.
JOE ROGAN: So what's your goal?
What are you trying to get out of this?
HAMILTON MORRIS: Well, at the very beginning of psychedelic
research, there were always these attempts to try and
isolate the experience from the environment in some way
when they were trying to quantify or qualify the
effects of new drugs in the '60s, and test them in some
kind of unbiased setting.
And the two ways they had were sensory deprivation tanks and
these Ganzfeld devices.
But of the two, it was John Lilly's sensory deprivation
tank that turned out to be much more effective, which is
why it's still used today.
INTERVIEWER: In your writings, you've explored almost every
state of consciousness I could imagine, the various mystical
levels of satori, communication with
extraterrestrials,
communication with other species.
You've established, probably, a more significant mapping of
inner space than almost any other modern person.
And I think we all owe a great debt to you for that.
JOHN C. LILLY: But don't get stuck with those.
I've abandoned all of them.
It's impossible because there are
infinities within the mind.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Before showing me his personal
flotation unit, Joe taught me about California's
high-potency medical cannabis.
JOE ROGAN: I like to get fucked up and get in the tank.
Every day, I turn this on, and this is the filtration system.
[MACHINERY STARTS]
JOE ROGAN: And inside it--
HAMILTON MORRIS: Wow.
JOE ROGAN: Yeah.
It's pretty intense.
That's what it looks like when it's circulating the water.
It's great for everything, man.
It's great for your mind.
It's relaxing.
It's great for your body.
All your muscles just like, they sort of like lengthen out
and unwind.
'Cause you're floating.
It's like a zero-gravity atmosphere.
It's really the only environment
on Earth like this.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Have you tried smoking DMT in it?
JOE ROGAN: No.
I've never thought with DMT, well, this'd be great if I did
it on a roller coaster, you know?
My main thing is eating pot.
If you eat enough of it, you'll have really insane
visual effects.
Like when I close my eyes, I have these, like, weird,
cartoony characters that sort of dance behind your eyelids.
But they're very slippery, too.
If I was you, I would go to one of these dispensaries and
get myself a cookie.
HAMILTON MORRIS: OK, cool.
I just imagine they're extremely strong.
They're always very strong.
[MUZAK PLAYING]
HAMILTON MORRIS: I mentally prepared myself to meet Crash,
venerated tank engineer and floatation expert, as well as
the builder of Joe Rogan's personal tank--
of Joe Rogan's personal tank.
CRASH: Come on up.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Uh.
CRASH: You guys know about this chem trail shit, right?
No?
You do?
HAMILTON MORRIS: No.
CRASH: Huh?
HAMILTON MORRIS: No.
CRASH: The spray that's out in the sky everywhere?
I don't want to even know about new imaging.
Very interesting stuff goes on.
I study a lot.
That's why I got the dark field and things, you know?
Studying the blood, studying this, studying that.
I look into a lot of things, you know,
so I can get informed.
I'm concerned with my own well-being.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Joe recommended that I eat some
kind of a weed brownie before getting into the tanks.
He said that that was the best way to experience this.
Do you feel that way?
CRASH: Whoa.
Well, you know, I think that everybody likes to do what
they like to do.
I mean, what?
Do they think I'm gonna say, oh, no.
You can't do that.
I mean, what is that?
What am I, your mom?
Your mom, who tells you--?
You know, absolutely.
Do whatever you want.
I think that this type of conscious action, people that
are doing it, I am sick of these-- what
I like about Joe--
this is a big thing to me, too--
oh, this is the point I was going to make, though.
The stigma that pertains to this industry has to do with
this hippy kind of a person.
These are not your grandma's people coming into the float
chamber no more.
See, Joe's had an influence on the industry in general.
The fact is, I believe him to be the single most driving
feature in the entire industry.
[MUZAK PLAYING]
HAMILTON MORRIS: Crash's Float Lab is outfitted with the most
technologically sophisticated flotation systems in the
world, in addition to whole-body vibration therapy
devices and several portraits of Albert Hofmann.
CRASH: I did a report on Albert Hofmann when I was
about yo big.
I don't even know if I knew what the fuck
I was talking about.
But I did a report about how he discovered LSD.
You guys do some acid?
Done some acid before?
HAMILTON MORRIS: Yes.
CRASH: Yeah?
How do you like that stuff?
HAMILTON MORRIS: I like it a lot.
CRASH: Yeah?
Gotta get the clean stuff, right?
HAMILTON MORRIS: I guess so.
CRASH: Yeah, get the clean acid.
Get it from a reliable source.
HAMILTON MORRIS: All right.
CRASH: There you go.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Before entering the tank, Crash
coached me on how to maximize the benefits of my flotation
experience.
CRASH: The other thing is putting it in your eyes.
You don't want to put it in your eyes,
'cause it stings a big.
You could put your hands like this way here, or like that,
or however you feel comfortable for you.
You ready to go?
HAMILTON MORRIS: (YAWNING) Yeah.
CRASH: I'll give you some earplugs.
They have a little filament in the middle.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Yeah, what is the filament?
That's--
CRASH: That's freaky, huh.
HAMILTON MORRIS: Yeah, that is the one that's making me--
CRASH: Yeah, that's what makes it freaky, is the filament.
See?
It goes from freaky to cool all of a sudden, right?
That's what I like.
Take it from freaky to cool.
Thank you.
All right.
Let's get out of here.
This guy's gotta take a shower.
Come on.
HAMILTON MORRIS: So wait, so wait-- is this it, and then
you'll alert me, and then--
CRASH: Yeah.
Say hey, time's up.