NATION AND WE NEED THAT. >> HARRIS JOINING, KLOBUCHAR,
PETE BUTTIGIEG ALL CLIMBING ON
BOARD.
BOARD. ONE OF THEM, PETE BUTTIGIEG,
JOINING US FOR HIS FIRST
INTERVIEW SINCE ENDING THAT
HISTORIC CAMPAIGN.
HISTORIC CAMPAIGN. THANKS FOR COMING IN.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
>> SENATOR SANDERS SAID HE WONRA
SOLID CAMPAIGN BUT WAS
DISAPPOINTED THE ESTABLISHMENT
PRESSURED YOU TO GET OUT OF THE
RACE.
RACE. WHAT KIND OF PRESSURE DID YOU
FEEL?
FEEL? >> I FELT THE PRESSURE OF
VOTERS.
VOTERS. WE RAN FOUR CONTESTS.
I’M PROUD OF THE CONTEST WE RAN.
BY THE TIME WE WENT INTO THE
FOURTH PLACE THE NUMBERS WEREN’T
THERE.
THERE. FOR US IT WASN’T ABOUT BEING
PRESIDENT BUT WORKING TO UNIFY
THE COUNTRY AND MAKING SURE WE
DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP.
THERE CAME A POINT WHERE I
RECESSED THE BEST THING I COULD
DO IN THE SERVICE OF THOSE GOALS
WAS TO STEP ASIDE AND TO SUPPORT
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN.
>> THE ESTABLISHMENT DIDN’T
PRESSURE YOU TO GET OUT?
>> NO.
>> NO. THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO RUN FOR
THE UNITED STATES ARE THE KIND
OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE THEIR OWN
DECISION.
DECISION. IT WAS MY DECISION.
>> LET TALK ABOUT MICHIGAN AND
PENNSYLVANIA AND WISCONSIN FOR A
MOMENT.
MOMENT. IN 2016 ABOUT 215,000 VOTERS
VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS IN THE
SPRING BUT SWITCHED THEIR
SUPPORT TO DONALD TRUMP IN THE
FALL HELPING HIM BECOME
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
HOW DOES JOE BIDEN PREVENT THAT
FROM HAPPENING THIS TIME IF HE
GETS THE NOMINATION?
>> I THINK WHAT’S MOST IMPORTANT
IS TO CONNECT WITH THE REALITY
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
EXPERIENCING.
EXPERIENCING. MY PART OF INDIANA IS VERY
SIMILAR TO THOSE PARTS OF
MICHIGAN AND OHIO AND
PENNSYLVANIA WHERE WE’VE BEEN
TOLD THAT THE ECONOMY IS GREAT,
YET RIGHT NOW WE’RE SEEING SO
MANY FAMILIES TRYING TO GET
AHEAD.
AHEAD. WHEN YOUR PAY DOES GO UP, IT
DOESN’T KEEP UP WITH THE COST OF
HIGHER EDUCATION, THE COST OF
HOUSING, THE COST OF
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. THERE NEED TO BE SOLUTIONS FOR
THAT.
THAT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT VICE
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN FOCUSED
ON FOR HIS SPIRE CAREER AND
DEFINITELY NOW.
DEFINITELY NOW. SO I THINK WHAT’S GOING TO BE
MOST IMPORTANT IS TO CONNECT
WITH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND
TO TRY TO CUT THROUGH THE
POLITICAL NOISE, WHICH I THINK A
LOT OF FOLKS VOTED THE WAY THEY
DID LAST TIME AROUND JUST ALMOST
TO BURN THE HOUSE DOWN, JUST OUT
OF FRUSTRATION WITH EVERYTHING.
NOW THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE
GOING TO DO TO HEAL THIS COUNTRY
AND TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU
STRUGGLED MIGHTILY DURING THE
CAMPAIGN, THIS IS SOMETHING I
TALKED ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR AGO,
YOUR INABILITY TO CONNECT WITH
BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. YOU’RE THE FIRST CANDIDATE TO
ROLL OUT A PLAN TO ADDRESS
RACIAL INEQUALITY.
RACIAL INEQUALITY. YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES BUT YOU COULDN’T
BREAK THROUGH.
BREAK THROUGH. WAS IT THE MESSAGE OR THE
MESSENGER?
MESSENGER? >> ONE THING YOU NEED IS TIME,
ESPECIALLY FOR COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE FELT PASSED OVER, THAT HAVE
FELT TAKEN FOR GRANTED.
OF COURSE I HAD A MATTER OF
MONTHS RATHER THAN YEARS OR
DECADES TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
WHAT I FOUND AND WHAT A LOT OF
COMPETITORS FOUND THAT JOE
BIDEN’S COMMANDING ADVANTAGE
ESPECIALLY WITH BLACK VOTERS AND
IN THE SOUTH IS SOMETHING THAT’S
BEEN EARNED OVER YEARS AND
DECADES.
DECADES. IT’S PART OF HOW HE’S GOING TO
PUT TOGETHER THE COALITION TO
TAKE BACK OVER THE WHITE HOUSE
BUT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO
DEFEAT.
DEFEAT. >> DESPITE A CROWDED FIELD THAT
INCLUDED OPENLY GAY, HISPANIC
MAN, A BLACK WOMAN, AN ASIAN
MAN, NOW YOUR PARTY IS LEFT WITH
TWO WHITE GUYS IN THEIR LATE
70s.
70s. IS THERE AN OBLIGATION FOR ONE
OF THEM TO PICK THE VICE
PRESIDENT FROM AFOREMENTIONED
GROUP.
GROUP. >> IT’S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE
DIVERSITY.
DIVERSITY. >> IS THERE AN OBLIGATION?
>> I’M NOT GOING TO PLACE
OBLIGATIONS ON THE FUTURE
NOMINEE.
NOMINEE. CERTAINLY AS A VOTER AND
DEMOCRAT, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE
THAT DIVERSITY.
THAT DIVERSITY. >> 44 IN 2024, 28 IN 2028.
SOMEONE DID THE MATH SAID YOU
COULD RUN 10 MORE TIMES AND
STILL BE YOUNGER THAN THE
YOUNGEST IN THE RACE NOW.
WHAT’S NEXT FOR YOU?
>> IN THE IMMEDIATE TURN WE’RE
GOING TO BE TRAVELING AND
THANKING SUPPORTERS AND CHAS AND
I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO TIME AWAY
AND MAKE MYSELF USEFUL IN OTHER
WAYS BUT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE FUN
FIRST.
FIRST. >> I’M GOOGLE TO ASK YOU ABOUT
THIS.
THIS. A BIRDIE TOLD ME YOU’RE GOING TO
GUEST A SHOW.
>> THURSDAY I’M GOING TO HOST
JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE.
PATRICK STEWART.
PATRICK STEWART. >> AMY KLOBUCHAR.
>> I’M HOPING TO CATCH UP WITH
HER SOON.
HER SOON. >> THE MONOLOGUE AND EVERYTHING.
>> YEAH, HOPEFULLY SOME FUNNIER
MINDS THAN MINE WILL BE DOING
SOME WRITING FOR THAT.
IT’S GOING TO BE FUN.
THE THING ABOUT COMING OFF A
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IS YOU
HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON ONE THING
AND ONE THING ONLY.
IT’S NICE TO BE ABLE TO ZOOM OUT