Hey. Ando here from senseiando.com. Boy, check this out. I've got the great Stephan Kesting,
one of my original inspirational figures to start my own YouTube channel.
So, to be in the same room with you, sir let me just like thank you for all the work
that you do. I've come to your site many times in the
middle of the night looking for solutions to grappling problems and
it's just an honor to work with you today. <So hopefully you found
at least one. <Yes, I did. I found many solutions.
You should buy this man's DVDs, go get his apps, I endorse all of that. While I have
you here, I was hoping that you could help my fans here figure out how to get
out of a rear naked choke. This is a technique that you see, it's a high
percentage move in MMA and increasingly now on YouTube you see real street
fights and people are mimicking the moves they see on TV. So it's not
uncommon now to get that big collar around your neck
and I don't want my people to go to sleep. So, can you talk us through the
dos and don'ts and give us a basic background of what you should be looking
for on a rear naked choke. <Sure, and you're absolutely right. People are
learning this from just watching the UFC essentially. It's crazy.
They're modeling what they see and they're doing it mostly right,
but there are a few nuances that hopefully they're doing wrong because
the reality is if somebody who knows what they're doing,
puts you in a good rear naked choke, you're probably going to
sleep in a street self defense context. So in any technique there are three levels
of defense, before, during, and after. So, the before is don't ever turn
your back to your opponent. This is a very very bad position. I mean if you
want to punch me, if you want to kick me, or grab my eyeballs, you want to choke
me, you've got all, you're holding all the cards, and I'm holding nothing. So, do not
let yourself get turned. If you do turn me, I got to keep on turning. I got it
somehow get back and face him. So that's before. That's not a very exciting answer but
it's the truth. <Right. <So, now if somebody is behind you and that arm starts coming
around the neck, this is a really dangerous situation. This is the during.
As that hand is going here, I've got to get both hands on this and pull it down
and drop my weight. I'm dropping my weight for a couple of reasons. The first
reason is I want to pull this away from my neck. Maybe I've been doing a whole
bunch of lat work and I can pull, but if I drop, it can also, pulls
the hand down. Secondly, part of Ando's strategy here is to pull me backwards
and break my balance. Once my balance is broken backwards, my odds of escaping
just plummeted even further. So, as it's coming, grab here, pull down, chin down.
The chin is down so that if he does get this up here, at least I've got an extra second
or two. The chin is no defense. Can you apply that choke, please? Right over my chin.
Go ahead and squeeze. That was good for me. <I'm sorry. <No, I asked you to.
My chin was down but he was squeezing and it was pushing my chin into my own
throat. My eyes are tearing. I'm just overcome with emotion. So the chin buys
you some time, but it is no solution. So now let's talk about after, right?
The choke is all the way in. Here. I've got to get my hands in here. If I don't get my hands
in here, I can be doing anything else I want, you know, like trying to hit him in
the eye, trying to hit him in the groin, trying to elbow him, forget about it. He can
eat it. He can close his eyes. He can turn his head. You know I'm hitting the top of
his head here and I'm already asleep. So I dig my fingers in here. To escape, the
hand that's behind my head, this is the hand I got to get my hands on. So, I'm
going to go here and I'm going to try and grab the fingers. May I, release here for a second. <Yes, sir.
<If I grab them like this, that's okay. If I grab them
like that, that's even better. I got this from Erik Paulson.
So, you're reaching in here. If I somehow intermesh my fingers with his and then
grab, that's even better. So we go back here, please. One, two. Protect as much as I
can, chin down. Oh, if he puts his hand up here,
that's really good. But if you put his hand behind my head
where it's supposed to be, now this is going to take a bit more time. But I do
have a finger finally. I pull this down and under my armpit, now both hands go
back up here and I break here. At this point, I've got to turn and face him.
Because if I just stand here and I screw up for even a second, he's going to put
it back on me. And this time, he's broken my posture back and I'm really
screwed. So, put it on, please. We're here. We're here. I try to defend but I'm
going for the fingers behind my head. Pull it over, under my armpit.
He can't, or it's much more difficult to choke me with just one hand. Now both hands go here and
break. Now to spin, I can control both hands or at least
one hand, and then back out. If I just try and spin here, he can grab onto me and
he's still in charge. So if I have at least have one hand, maybe two
hands, now I can go out here. From here... <Hey, juji nage. <You know, if I'm
controlling his hands, that's obviously a good thing. <Sure. < Any time that you have the choice to , you know,
would you rather be here or here. You'd rather be here. <Yes, sir.
All things being equal. <Yes, sir. < So, that's sort of the levels of rear naked
choke defense that I go through. The before, never turn your back. The during,
get your hand on it, drop your chin, and drop your weight to make it
harder to bend your weight backwards. Also, sorry, I'll just jump back here one more time.
You see this is as a defense sometimes. It's fairly low ceiling here
so I can't do it, but to throw the person like that. <Sounds like a great idea. <It is
if it works. But the trouble is if you take that and the person maintains the
choke, you're going to end up circling and you're going to end up on the ground,
essentially they're going to be in rear mount position, whether they know it or
not. You will have fallen. Your neck really will have gone through a full torque
cycle. You don't know what's going to happen. Will it work? For sure. There are
some people who will let go and panic as they're going over. There are some people who's
arms are so tied up they won't be able to let God knows what's going to happen to your neck.
So, in general, for the full on rear naked, I wouldn't suggest it. For maybe
just a one arm around the throat, here. If you can, drop your weight, get my hips
lower than his hips, bend forward a bit, and then lift with my legs just like
your basic judo throw, then you can throw the guy over. But once the choke is on, then
put 100% of your effort on breaking that grip, getting those fingers, and recognize
you're in a really bad position. You're odds of escaping have gone down like five
percent even when you know what you're doing. <Yes, sir. But
don't let that beat your spirit. Keep fighting. <When you wake up, keep fighting. <Yeah, right.
That's terrific. Well, like I told you, the
man knows what he's talking about. So, rewind this tape and go watch it again.
For more information not just about grappling but self-defense, check out
grapplearts.com. Check out, you got a couple of websites, actually, you also
got selfdefensetutorials.com, right? Always new material coming out. This guy is
hustling, working, and sharing a great deal. So, please, I'll put the links below, check
out Mr. Kesting. Thank you very much.
I believe in building bridges. It was very kind you to give me some time. Again
thank you for your inspiration. I think you're a great role model for martial
arts everywhere. So, until next time keep that hand off your throat and keep
fighting for our happy life.