uh... the european court of human rights for the first time ever has labeled
treatment by the c_i_a_ as torture antigen in the case of german citizen
colette l mass rape who was tortured up by c_i_a_ agents almost a decade ago
we have a quote from james goldstein executive director of the open society
justice initiative
he says the grand chamber of the european court of human rights
unanimously found that mister uelmen's re was subjected to force disappearance
unlawful detention
extraordinary rendition outside of any judicial process
and inhumane inhumane and degrading treatment
tumi that
they left out uh... just about the book but that could have thrown in there
which is all support remember regarding the lottery case
close-up over the summer without me
and how one other important facet after we'd be have we summarize them week work
for them
we realized loops
we got the wrong dot
and the c_i_a_ release them
saying yes he wasn't
four months she was held by the government more longer five total like a
month
in the strike
invested only a happen and another four months when he was sent as kids
and held after they knew that he was innocent
that's other interesting part not only did the courtroom
but after they realized he was innocent they continued to hold a for a signifi
period of time
well kissing you have to admit hoops wheat or to the wrong dot us a little
store i wonder if they were hoping just die
and by the way and his son she brought didn't kill anybody
always knowing out that we know what we know we have running water since we
don't have that as a way that would be a problem
and by the way they
his wife didn't know where he'd gone for good run off of a mistress or something
i mean the when they meet to disappear you literally disappear off the face of
the they don't send your family notice
and uh... and so they thought that he was up
just something that was noted in the new jersey
he shows back company says no you don't miss and the c_i_a_ kidnapped me
tortured me so i was really
triplets are never backed up data
is that you know they did
and now has been absolutely positively confirmed and we have a ruling on it
so i suspect that uh...
inorder work with our top allies in europe we are now arresting everyone
involved not operation some of the context around this uh... that'll be
happening in next week the u_s_s_ annette assets select committee on
intelligence is expected of votes in auto a massive three year of you have
more than six million pieces of information
related to torture
and then the uh... effectiveness of enhanced interrogation techniques
although there's a possibility that republican members on the committee
although they're a minority might block ever being voted on
is this is expected to say that was not successful and achieving it was a
three-year review six thousand pages they did conclude that he did not vote
for did not lead
to at capturing arrived in london
and the republicans are saying they're mad because one minute didn't include
enough information
bearing six million documents
okay and then number two they said
they should have had the c_i_a_ clear
it's a report about the c_i_a_ okay
spoken i mean is literally comical
and uh... towards an eternal bears investigation to a cop shooting they
should just let the cobb involved the shooting look it over before the release
yep and if they don't have is obviously political gamesmanship talking with the
impolite to not let them say in a row by themselves the black marker for just a
few minutes to act before they had about
raa and so there is no dispute that they we did tortured and b
uh... he did not lead to showing the london and insist their compound of it
that we don't discuss about
but you know what the al muster was the wrong i a separate gets in on my god i
can't believe you some of my surendra
sufficient aka update
but and then and is that in our people having this debate it would be really
did in london now we didn't need to be months capture okay
forgetting something
it's deeply e moral
do you think it's important it doesn't work so it's useless anymore right
that's why i feel like allows me to go to the tune worker argument because
they're more argument has no effect on
i think i hope at least that that it is penetrating the public on so it's a
little bit it was
it was even when kundan always sunny in philadelphia they said that it's so
affected that you can get people to admit to things they'd never done
rescue internal dot zeenetwork my favorite factor that is that with the
cliche muhammad
they were boredom a hundred an eighty three times
if it actually worked would you have to do it a hundred maybe three times away
khalid sheik mohammed who had the most information about the carrier that
ultimately led us to uh... getting that line
never mentioned her
and a hundred eighty three times in water board
until the very people who know first hand about kirdar post current with
their lives
dimensional torture sessions
and once they rising so you know and the fact is they might have mentioned him if
we had brought him
they they were mentioned
ended around a lot of seven years ago would never vote for us
fish in the best information we got about the curve in line
was during non coercive interrogations
but i told the story before it's an amazing one
we played ping pong with the nazis that we capture we took them to state dinners
like as we
like the nazis we thought they were lovely people there were more people
know
because
they played good cop bad cop and the backup wasn't nearly as bad as well we
got today and then that they would come because we want to see works to guess
what happened those nazis we captured they trusted and her friend of the guys
you're playing ping pong with andy give up
excellent information
that one up helping us win the war so there is we know how to do this right
also they were communists
so and had not always ineffective in lebanon the moral argument
the whole an already bad is it about this but that if we can work for them