So one of our own TYT network has been banned from Twitter permanently for
a tweet that is going to shock you.
It's gonna shock you because of how benign it is.
Like who cares, this is what gets you permanently banned, this is insane.
So I have a theory on why and
we're going to tell you we're gonna bring the person who got banned.
It's Rayyvana and she had this tweet that Twitter took great umbrage
at apparently she tweeted at Ben Shapiro in the middle of
a conversation presumably and we'll talk to her about it a second.
She said there's no Andolan 1970 and venture pure and then she says no
fetus is gaining constitutional rights even when roe is overturned,
you absolute dumb effing bitch.
Now that is very mean, there's curses and impolite nous in that tweet,
they said it is violating the rules against hateful conduct.
You may not promote violence against threaten or
harass other people on the basis of race in this city and national origin.
Sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age,
disability, or serious disease.
If the word bitches the problem and we don't know,
I'm gonna bring Rayyvana on a second, is that not allowed on Twitter at all?
No one can use that word.
And or are they worried that Ben Shapiro is a bitch much.
And so if you call them one that that might create some
issues with gender identity or
I literally have no earthly idea why Rayyvana it was banned.
So let's bring her in Rayyvana first tell us what was the conversation about?
Obviously it was about roe, but how did it start?
And how did he get to this point?
>> Yeah, thanks for bringing me on.
Yeah, my free speech was silenced by big tech.
The conversation was Ben Shapiro tweeted something along the lines of sorry,
the constitution is happening to you.
And I'm at the intersection of being someone who is very passionate about
protecting access to abortion, but also a law student.
So I have familiarity with the implications of what's
going to happen if roe is overturned.
And, I read through portions of the draft, the leaked draft opinion.
So I have sort of an idea of what is gonna happen when they do overturn it.
But despite Ben being Harvard law educated,
his followers very much do not have an understanding of what is going to happen.
Because he sent out that tweet and almost all the replies were people saying that.
No one is losing constitutional rights, that fetuses are gaining
constitutional rights, which that's not happening.
No fetuses getting constitutional rights that when roe will be overturned and
it hasn't been overturned yet.
So I was frustrated because I'm just seeing all these people cheering on
people actually losing constitutional rights.
So I tweeted that at him and put my phone down and
within two minutes I got an email that said my account was banned forever.
And I agree I think that the only thing that it could be was the word bitch,
I had no idea that dumb bitches were a protected class.
Apparently so but if that's true then I have a bone to pick with Twitter
because people have called me a bitch quite a few times on that app and
I they saw no repercussions.
>> No that is exactly, right?
I've seen that word, I don't know thousands of times on Twitter.
So then it must be that it's because it was applied to Ben Shapiro,
is Ben Shapiro protected class?
These are by the way we're not kidding around.
She's actually band and this is actually insane and we need actual answers.
Is everyone who's used the word bitch banned on Twitter?
If not is it because Twitter is worried about Ben Shapiro's feelings right?
Or are they worried he in fact actually is a bitch much and hence accusing him of
being a bitch is problematic for some reason that we can't discern, right?
So now Rayyvana you had a previous tweet that also
created an issue and that also had curse words in it.
Okay what was that about?
>> Yeah so the last time I had my Twitter it was locked.
It was the band for like permanently.
Now this is banned, I can't even open it anymore but
it was limited because I was replying to someone who was being very transphobic and
calling just calling what's her name?
The swimmer Leah Thomas saying nasty things about Leah Thomas.
And I like I don't know what I said something like Leah Thomas is a woman and
they replied to me and said you will never be a woman, I am assist woman,
I am not trans.
So I responded I'm a cis woman you dumb nothing or
something like that and then also got limited.
Which is that person is I went back and looked at their profile.
Extraordinarily racist, extremely transphobic, their account fine, my gone.
Just the things that they decided to care about it's just nonsense to me.
I just don't get it.
>> I have a new theory Rayyvana, it's that both tweets have the words dumb effing and
so they might be trying to protect dumb right wingers.
That might be a protected class.
Like hey wait that's not fair.
They are provably less intelligent.
They have very low IQ, so they must be protected.
So but that goes to the main question has Twitter
told you what was the offending part hay?
In the first tweet when you were suspended and
in the second one where you're permanently banned did Twitter ever say to you hey
this is the rule you're violating and here's how you violated it.
Hey, so heads up, don't do that again.
>> Yeah, the only thing they said was that I violated their role against hate speech
directed at protected groups of people.
But would refuse to tell me what group of people I was being either directing
violence towards or harassment towards or how I did that in any way, shape or form.
Because last time I checked,
Ben Shapiro is not a member of any of the protected classes.
He did tweet this week tweet that started with as a gay man.
So maybe he was maybe it was that just sexuality rule.
I very highly doubt that obviously but but yeah, no clarification.
I sent multiple appeal requests.
I sent a long message about why I need my account to do things for
my job about how I was very, of course, and
it was an inappropriate thing to say, but I was pretty enraged.
Abortion had played has played a really big role in my life and
it's something I'm extremely passionate about and
seeing it being overturned in real time, I feel like it's righteous anger.
And I apologize for being inappropriate,
even though genuinely I'm not sorry.
>> No, let me just be clear.
Okay, so Kyla is a TYT contributor on rebel headquarters,
that's one of our channels and
Rayyvana also is a contributor on our HURR channel within the network.
Okay, so JR has his own show, watch this, I'm just being clear and I run the network
and so I need you on twitter to promote your videos on Rebel headquarters.
So that is a part of your job.
Now you did not.
I don't want you to apologize.
I want to be clear, I as your employers are saying,
you don't need to apologize at all.
I actually think you are correct.
Okay, so you might, what you said might is not at all inappropriate.
It's impolite, is it in place?
Sure, uf and bitch and
it's accuses people who are dumb of being dumb and that's mean.
[LAUGH] But it's not inappropriate and especially on Twitter,
it sounds like the most appropriate thing you can do.
Okay, so no, they have to explain to us what is it?
And that's so
Kyla I mentioned Kyla because I want to open it up to now Kyla and
JR because guys, here's I have a couple of theories, I will run by you guys.
One theory, number one is they have the banking service all the time because
conservatives say I'm going to come and chop your head off.
I'm gonna sexually assault you etcetera.
So they probably have 280 or 2800 conservatives they've banned because
they've actually said things are deeply violent and threatening etc.
And then now Elon Musk is coming in and they always have political pressure and
they're like well then you have to ban 2800 lefties but
the lefties didn't do anything wrong.
They didn't threaten violence, they didn't say anything wrong.
Well it doesn't matter.
You have to just find them and ban them, okay.
That one cursed good enough.
But wait the other guy said chop the person's head off and
she said a mean word like that was a so
honestly other than that I can't find a reason why this would be banned.
Kyla is this a tweet that you would have never seen on Twitter before?
That is somehow offensive in ways I can't imagine.
>> It's really ridiculous because I was just scrolling down and so
many people have referred to Ben as a little bit.
So like I was actually really surprised and I agree like to hell with
respectability politics like Twitter is not meant to be polite.
But I'm pretty sure Ben probably like emailed them was like only my wife
can call me a bit so like band is woman, [LAUGH] that's my views on it.
Clearly we have a censorship problem but not for the right reasons.
>> Yeah and JR that goes to theory number two which is not just Ben but
my guess is conservatives on a lot of left wing tweets, or
like, that hurt my feelings.
And you know what feelings don't care about facts.
I just I'm all in my feelings should be banned, you shouldn't be banned.
And she says something meetings should be bad.
Remember we're for free speech?
Well, okay, look, there's a couple of things here,
we've heard your feelings, right?
Well, I've said a lot of mean things about you,
Rayyvana did this outrageous tweet calling you unintelligent.
Okay and I know the right wing thinks the word bitch should be banned.
I know the right wing thinks that, right?
So, my question to you guys is to the right wing,
do you actually believe in free speech?
Or are you going to do one of these cute things?
Well, you guys started banning people so who cares, we're bad, you're bad at you.
I don't care, I don't care about principles.
I never meant free speech.
No, she should be banned because we don't like her.
She's been mean to us and we caught feelings.
And Jr to Kyla's point, that's the second theory that that right wingers are super
sensitive and they're like here my feeling, right, rewarding, rewarding her.
And Twitter goes, 17 right wingers got their feelings hurt, who cares?
Left wing has no powerlessness.
>> It's from top to bottom when it comes to trying to talk about evening playing
fields, and what about this and that.
Especially when it comes to actual people who's rights released or
those of the protected classes,
reasons why Twitter have these types of rules is they want to flip the script.
We're seeing this across the board with singing when it comes to voting rights,
you know white folks.
And actually the folks that have always been in
control of our systems are the ones that are being attacked.
Police officers after they do something after people come from them,
they're the ones being attacked.
It's always the group that is usually doing those things that now there's been
enough of this narrative that's getting pushed over and over and over and
over again.
That many of these groups like, well let's make everyone happy.
We got to even the playing field a little bit.
And as these white folks who complain about their birth rates dropping.
Because there's too many minorities coming across the border between the minorities
having babies here, we have two up hours.
And so it has to happen like artificially because there's no real problem behind
any of this.
Ben Shapiro's feelings were not hurt.
No, no, no, he's he probably never even saw that tweet and if he did or
some producer or whoever on his show did, they're like.
Here's an opportunity for us to test and see if we can go ahead and
begin to do these things.
Now, I don't believe that there's an Elon Musk angle because he's not
controlling anything, let's get this, this is like barely happening with his process.
So I'm sure this could be written off by many people who support Ben as well this
is now Elon putting in work and evening this whole playing fiddle.
You don't like that, we were getting banned for saying things.
Now look what now you're feeling the same problem now, that is what's happening.
At least I believe here.
And there's always been these arbitrary rules from Instagram to I think Facebook,
I avoid Facebook like the plague.
And then also Twitter in this particular point,
they want to make sure that it looks like something is being done so
that more people are happy that you arbitrarily sometimes.
>> Yeah, so the thing about Elon, by the way is that no,
he doesn't control twitter yet, that that hasn't even happened, right?
So we care about facts.
But there could be executives at Twitter who are like we better even things
out before Elon comes because then we will be looked upon with great favor.
Now even that's a little conspiratorial and
I don't know that that's what happened here.
But the good news is that's why we're asking okay Twitter,
you could encourage speculation by not answering.
And then we're assuming that your new policy is if anyone hurts the feelings of
right wingers, they get banned and your for free speech.
>> Do they never answer though.
Even when conservatives say I'm getting shadow banned, when Trump got kicked off.
When the misinformation wave of folks got kicked off over Covid and
things like that, or election security, all that stuff.
I don't know if these sites and apps actually give a specific answer.
I've never seen it.
>> They do it at least in categories, right?
And most of the time it will be obvious.
They'll say, hey, you're spreading misinformation and it'll be like, hey,
Covid is no big deal.
It actually gives you 20 bucks.
You're like, wait, what do you have to discover your 20 bucks?
That's not true, okay.
Or like, hey, you're going against the protective glass.
And by the way, this is important guys the left wing is not a protected class.
So you can say any of those things you want about me for sure.
Okay, but if you attack someone based on the race,
ethnicity sexual orientation, etc that's a protected class for
people who have suffered discrimination in the country.
But the left wing is not a protected class, and
the right wing is not a protected class.
Those are ideas okay and so by the way,
attacking religions is perfectly fine.
The idea and the philosophy behind religions attacking someone,
because there are certain religion is not fine.
So if you said, hey Judaism is wrong, you shouldn't be banned for that.
If you said, hey, Ben Shapiro is blah blah blah because he's jewish no,
that is wrong, right?
But obviously that's not the case here.
And so I want to make sure that we're clear on that, but
Rayyvana last word to you.
So since in this case it's not at all clear to JR's point about,
hey, why did they do this?
Shouldn't, don't they owe you an explanation, do what happens next?
Or are you just like you just have to be powerful or
have Ted Cruz do a committee hearing to get to resolve this or
if you're left wing or you don't have enough power, do they?
This these big tech people just go, that's it your banned and
we don't have to answer you.
>> Yeah, I've set like two or three appeal requests so far and
it's just been the same automated message every time.
So I have not gotten any more answers.
I'm hoping that after this I will get some answers at the very least.
But I will just say I have had people send me pictures of dead bodies and
write your next on Twitter.
I have had people send me unsolicited nude pictures and reported them and
Twitter said that was fine.
I've had people threatened to rape me kill me threatened to bomb my mom's house and
reported all those things and
said that they found nothing wrong with those tweets.
So if you're going to start enforcing your TOS against people who say mean words,
I would just hope to God that you also start applying it to people who
are actually threatening people.
And I mean there's accounts that they're at
on twitter our slurs, it's slur and hater.
I saw one today that was t slur against transgender people, hater,
that was their name.
And Twitter was fine with that and people were reporting it and
getting that same message, we found nothing wrong with this account.
It's just ridiculous and I would just like some level of transparency.
>> Yeah, no, absolutely.
And last thing guys, it goes to the right wing, look, we make fun of you guys,
you make fun of us.
But when it comes to freedom of speech issues, we have defended Ben Shapiro,
Charlie Kirk and Culture, you name it all their right to speak at college campuses.
I've defended Megyn Kelly even rush Limbaugh Glennbeck from getting
kicked off the air because I said, look, their ideas are abhorrent.
But you should have conversations about that and not kick them off the air, so
does the right way, have any principles at all, do they?
Because if you did, you'd look at this and go, yeah, that's egregious, that's exactly
what we're talking about, Twitter is banning her for freedom of speech.
That was free speech, there was nothing wrong with it at all.
And you should come and ask for
accountability partly out of self interest because you could be next.
But even if you thought they're targeting left wingers,
if you actually believe in free speech it shouldn't matter who they're targeting.
But if you don't and you say yeah ha ha we're going to ban all of you.
Well yeah, that would explain it because we think you're authoritarian and
you don't really mean any of your principles.
I'd love it if you proved too strong, I'd love it if you proved us right.
So how about it honest either way, but
Twitter those people an answer this is absolutely outrageous and at this point
it appears to be discrimination against the left for no apparent reason.