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>> Stephen: OH, HEY THERE, EVERYBODY!
WELCOME BACK.
MY GUESTS TONIGHT ARE THE CO-HOSTS OF "MORNING JOE" ON
MSBNC.
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW," JOE SCARBOROUG AND
MIKA BRZEZINSKI!
HELLO, YOU TWO!
NICE TO SEE YOU, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: MIKA, YOU'RE GIVING OFF REAL JOHN BOEHNER
VIBES TONIGHT WITH THAT RED WINE.
WHAT ARE YOU DRINKING THERE?
>> JUST A LITTLE PINOT NOIR.
>> Stephen: HE'S A CABERNET MAN THESE DAYS.
LONG BOOK MONEY, GOT HIM ON THE CAB.
SO, LISTEN, Y'ALL, WE'VE TALKED MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS, OVER
THE LAST FOUR HARROWING YEARS.
WE'RE QUICKLY APPROACHING THE HUNDREDTH DAY OF THE BIDEN
PRESIDENCY.
HOW'S YOUR JOB BEEN DIFFERENT WITH 100 DAYS OF A NEW PRES?
>> WELL, IT'S NICE NOT TO WAKE UP AND FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO PUT
ON A SUIT OF ARMOR WONDERING WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM
AND IN WHAT CAPACITY, TWITTER OR WHATEVER.
>> Stephen: DOESN'T IT FEEL WEIRD BIDEN HASN'T CALLED YOU
GUYS LOSERS, THOUGH?
DON'T YOU FEEL UNFULFILLED?
>> I KNOW!
WAS THINKING, BIDEN HASN'T ACCUSED ME OF BEING A MURDERER.
>> Stephen: I'M SO SORRY.
BUT WE'VE GOT THREE AND A HALF YEARS LEFT.
IT COULD HAPPEN.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SO FASCINATING, BECAUSE BIDEN,
EVERYBODY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO BE LIKE F.D.R. OR MAYBE
TRUMAN PARALLELS, BUT HE MAY BE TURNING INTO REALLY A
TRANSFORMATIONAL PRESIDENT.
AND A LOT LIKE REAGAN WHO ALWAYS GOT UNDERESTIMATED GOING TO THE
WHITE HOUSE IN PART BECAUSE REAGAN SAID THINGS LIKE TREES
CAUSE MORE POLLUTION THAN CARS, SIGNS ON TREES SAYING STOP ME
BEFORE I KILL AGAIN.
BIDEN HAS BEEN UNDERESTIMATED.
I REALLY SENSE WE ARE MOVING INTO A POST-REAGAN ERA.
WE HAD THE FDR ERA FROM 32 TO 80.
THEN THE REAGAN ERA FROM 80 TO MAYBE 2020, BUT THIS FEELS
REALLY DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, 75% OF AMERICANS ARE SUPPORTING PRETTY HUGE, PRETTY
EXPANSIVE GOVERNMENT RELIEF BILLS.
FEELS LIKE WE'RE MOVING INTO SORT OF A NEW ERA.
>> Stephen: THE THING THAT SURPRISES ME, AND I'D LOVE TO
GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, IS THAT THE YOUNGSTERS WHO I WOULD
TALK TO SAY WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT JOE BIDEN, HE'S JUST GOING
TO BE SO MODERATE AND NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE, HE'S NOT GOING
TO GET ANYTHING DONE.
AND I'M, LIKE, WE JUST NEED SOMEONE TO RIGHT THE SHIP AFTER
THE CRAZY GUY WHO REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WERE HOLES IN
THE BOTTOM OF THE VESSEL.
SOMEBODY'S GOT TO COME IN AND BAIL IT OUT.
TURNS OUT BIDEN IS BACKING EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE AND
AMBITIOUS LEGISLATION.
DID YOU IMAGINE THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> NEVER IMAGINED THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE
WRITTEN THREE BOOKS ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND THEY WERE
ALL THE SAME AND THAT'S WHY ONLY TWO PEOPLE READ THEM.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE LIKE REAGAN, YOU NEED TO BE
CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGICALLY BUT MODERATE TEMPERAMENTALLY.
THAT'S HOW REAGAN ACCOMPLISHED WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED.
AND HERE YOU HAVE JOE BIDEN, WHO IS REALLY BEING PROGRESSIVE IN A
LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT BECAUSE HE'S MODERATE
TEMPERAMENTALLY, PEOPLE ARE, LIKE, OH, IT'S OLD JOE!
AND, AGAIN, THESE PRETTY PROGRESSIVE PLANS HE HAS, 75% OF
AMERICANS SUPPORTED HIS COVID RELIEF BILL, ABOUT 70 OR 75%
SUPPORT A REALLY AMBITIOUS TRANSPORTATION BILL, BUT AGAIN
IT'S BECAUSE HE'S MODERATE TEMPERAMENTALLY AND SORT OF
SNEAKING UP ON A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING EITHER.
>> Stephen: YOU GUYS GOT YOUR VACCINES?
>> YES.
HOW ABOUT YOU.
>> Stephen: BOTH OR JOHNSON & JOHNSON.
>> NO, BOTH MODERNA.
>> Stephen: BOTH MODERNA.
YEAH.
>> Stephen: ME, TOO.
TWO MODERNAs.
>> HOUSE OF THE SECOND ONE.
I WAS REALLY SICK.
MIKA WAS DOWN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
>> Stephen: I'M HESITANT TO DESCRIBE HOW I FELT BECAUSE I
DIDN'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE ANYBODY.
IT WAS FINE.
I HAD 36 HOURS OF FEELING KIND OF MUNG, COMPLETELY WRECKED.
BUT I GOT THE SHOT SATURDAY MORNING, BY MONDAY, I WAS GREAT.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE, SIR.
>> I HAD ABOUT SIX, TWELVE HOURS OF BEING UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT I'M
SURE YOU CAN SPEAK TO HOW INCREDIBLE IT IS WHEN YOU GET
PAST IT AND YOU'RE, LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, I CAN LIVE AGAIN.
>> Stephen: EVIE AND I ARE HUTTING THE CLUBS AGAIN.
OH, WE'RE IN THE PHONE PIT, EVERYTHING.
IT'S MY LIFE.
IT'S MY LIFESTYLE.
SURE.
JUST A LITTLE MESH G-STRING AND MM-MM-MM, MM-MM-MM, MMM!
NO FEAR!
COME ON, YOU GUYS WERE YOUNG IN THE '80s.
DON'T TELL ME.
YOU WERE NEVER YOUNG IN THE '80s?
>> WE WENT OUT, THOUGH.
WE ACTUALLY WENT ON OUR FIRST DATE SINCE COVID TWO NIGHTS AGO
AND WENT OUT TO A RESTAURANT.
IT WASN'T THAT.
WE WENT TO JOE NAMATH'S NEW RESTAURANT IN JUPITER, FLORIDA.
SO NOT QUITE AS EXCITING AS WHAT YU DO.
>> Stephen: NO PHONE PIT IN JOE NAMATH'S?
BIDEN WAS SHOOTING FOR A GOAL OF 100 MILLION SHOTS IN THE FIRST
100 DAYS.
HE SAID YOU COULD JUDGE HIS FIRST HUNDRED DAYS ON WHAT HE
DID WITH THAT.
WHAT'S IT LIKE TO HAVE HOPEFUL NEWS ABOUT THE VIRUS?
YOU TALK ABOUT THE NEWS EVERY DAY.
IT MUST BE A RELIEF.
>> IT'S A RELIEF TO SEE COMPETENCE IN THE ADMINISTRATION
AND A RELIEF TO SEE THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE OUT AND THEY APPEAR TO BE
VACS MADE.
THE VACCINE HESITANCY IS A BIG ISSUE AND IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED
TO TALK ABOUT.
WE NEED TO GET THIS COUNTRY VACCINATED, BUT THIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS ONLY GONE PAST ITS GOALS EVERY TIME.
THEY'VE DOUBLED IT.
AND JOE BIDEN HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB PREPARING FOR
THIS, EVEN BEFORE HE WAS PRESIDENT, EVEN DURING THE
CAMPAIGN, HE WAS PREPARING FOR THIS, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK SUPPORTERS OF DONALD TRUMP,
REPUBLICANS HAVE VOTED FOR HIM THAT MAY HAVE VACCINE HESITANCY
RIGHT NOW, THEY CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS SUCCESS AND SEE
WHAT JOE BIDEN'S DONE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT THEIR GUY
TO OWN PART OF IT, OPERATION WARP SPEED WORKED STROLLED WELL,
OF COURSE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
DID AS FAR AS CHOOSING THE VACCINES, YOU COMPARE WHERE WE
ARE COMPARED TO WHERE EUROPE IS, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL
AMERICANS SHOULD EMBRACE, SOMETHING EVERYBODY SHOULD OWN
AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN WHERE OPERATION WARP SPEED
WORKED, DONALD TRUMP STARTED THAT, IT WORKED EXTRAORDINARILY
WELL.
AND JOE BIDEN COULD DO SOMETHING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
COULDN'T DO AS FAR AS LOGISTICS GO.
SO IT'S BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESS STORY, WHICH, OF COURSE,
WE OWE MAINLY TO THE SCIENTISTS AND THE DOCTORS AND THE
RESEARCHERS.
IT'S BREATHTAKING, THOUGH, WHAT WE'VE ALL DONE AS A COUNTRY
TOGETHER ON THIS SEASON.
>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE POLITICAL PARTIES GOING
FORWARD.
JOE, YOUR OLD POLITICAL PARTY, BECAUSE YOU LEFT THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY, RIGHT?
>> ON YOUR SHOW, YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR FORMER PARTY RIGHT
NOW?
>> IT'S STILL EMBRACING A GUY, AND THEY'RE STILL FOLLOWING A
GUY WHO -- I'M NOT SAYING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S FASCIST, BUT
THE GUY THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING IS A FASCIST.
>> Stephen: THEY'RE NOT FASCISTS, THEY'RE FASCIST
CURIOUS.
>> WELL, YOU SAID THAT.
>> Stephen: IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING A GUY WHO'S FASCIST,
YOU'RE NOT A FASCIST?
WHAT ARE YOU?
>> I'M TRYING TO BE POLITE HERE.
THEY'RE FASCISTS.
I TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE, THEY'RE INCREASINGLY LIBERAL,
THEY'RE INCREASINGLY AUTHORITARIAN, AND THEY'RE
INCREASINGLY DUMB, IGNORANT, XENOPHOBIC --
>> Stephen: I THINK FASCIST IS NICER THAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> OKAY.
TO EACH THEIR OWN.
A BUNCH OF MO-RONS.
WHEN YOU HAVE GEORGE W. BUSH SAYING WHAT HE SAID ABOUT IT,
BUGS BUNNY.
>> Stephen: GEORGE W. BUSH SAID, JUST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
DIDN'T HEAR, THAT THE G.O.P.
SOUNDS INCREASINGLY ISOLATIONIST AND NATIVISTINGS ESPECIALLY WHEN
TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION.
>> THERE'S A STORY OUT TODAY, THOUGH, ABOUT LIZ CHENEY IN THE
"TIMES" AND ROBERT DRAPER IN THE STORY TALKING ABOUT LIZ CHENEY,
ONE OF THE MORE CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
CONSERVATIVE WITH A CAPITAL "C" AND DRAPER INTERVIEWED A
REPUBLICAN WHO SAID SHE USED TO BE A CONSERVATIVE UNTIL SHE SAID
DONALD TRUMP SHOULD BE IMPEACHED, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.
THEIR DEFINITION OF COAFORT, OF WHAT A GOOD REPUBLICAN IS
SOMEBODY WHO'S IN THIS PERSONALITY CULT FOLLOWING
DONALD TRUMP, AND IT'S SAD BECAUSE CONSERVATIVISM HAS
SUFFERED BECAUSE OF IT, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS, I THINK,
GOING TO SUFFER IN THE LONG TERM BECAUSE OF IT.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
BACK WITH MORE JOE SCARBOROUGH AND MIKA BRZEZINSKI.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHO THEY WANT TO GET HIGH WITH.
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